My Cydia runs fine after removing the two lines.
Maybe just Cydia losing connection or you need to reboot and freshen up any recent installs?
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Are animations better in 4.3.3?
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My Cydia runs fine after removing the two lines.
Maybe just Cydia losing connection or you need to reboot and freshen up any recent installs?
After respring or reboot : no changes.
I wonder if it has something to do with the tweaks I previously installed in Cydia.. Damn, I don't want to uninstall everything and try them one by one, lol.
Anyone else about this Cydia trouble or is it just me ?
I wonder if it has something to do with the tweaks I previously installed in Cydia.. Damn, I don't want to uninstall everything and try them one by one, lol.
Anyone else about this Cydia trouble or is it just me ?
I've been having the same issue with Cydia. Not sure that I can say it only happened once I remove those two lines or not. Easy test would be to just add those two lines and see if you still have that problem.
Test done : Cydia crash when the lines are present too..
I don't understand because it worked well before I firstly removed these lines.
Maybe try to rewrite these line too, see what happens..?
EDIT : My bad, I didn't re-add it correctly. Now it's good and Cydia works well again.
Conclusion, the Cydia issue is due to the removal of these two lines..
Guys, we have a dilemma down here.
I don't understand because it worked well before I firstly removed these lines.
Maybe try to rewrite these line too, see what happens..?
EDIT : My bad, I didn't re-add it correctly. Now it's good and Cydia works well again.
Conclusion, the Cydia issue is due to the removal of these two lines..
Guys, we have a dilemma down here.
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Thanks for the tip, works great for me and my i4 is much smoother but I still feel my ipod touch 2g is smoother. Does this tweak work on the ipad to? Anyway now my i4 is a joy to use again.
http://technguidesg.wordpress.com/2...e-multi-gesturing-on-your-jailbroken-idevice/
Not sure but if you look for a K48AP.plist file on the same folder of your iPad, well.. Try it on you own ;-)
Solution: Stop rapid-fire opening and closing of Cydia.
I can induce this error if I open and close cydia a few times quickly. But once I clear Cydia out of the multitask tray, it stops. Not sure why you would need to open and close cydia over and over again. My suggestion is to use Cydia for whatever you need, then close it. You know, like a normal person.
It's not a rapid-fire opening and closing of Cydia that causes the problem. I do exactly as you said - I open Cydia to check for updates or whatever and then I close it; however, sometimes I open it and it just closes on its own within a second or two of opening it. Like I said, I'm not sure if the change being discussed here is the cause or not (doubt it though) but I don't think we should blame user error either.
Yes, this issue obviously seems to be related to the lines code we removed, but as I said, it may be related to a cydia tweak too (mobile substrate, for exemple) that may induce the crash.
A question : Is anyone who has NO tweaks installed on his iPhone notice this issue ? It will help focus on the origin of the problem.
(Anyway, I think we'll have to notify Saurik, the developper of Cydia so as he could fix this, supposing he gives a s*** of our particular situation.. ah ah..)
Umm about Cydia crashing right after you close and open almost immediately is not due to the removal of the 2 lines of code.
I've already experienced that before doing the suggested tweak. What happens here is that when you press the home button, Cydia is still being released from memory and when you launch it almost immediate, you are looking at the 'Cydia-being-released-from-memory session', which is the previous instance of Cydia in layman.
You all know Cydia's way of being a process has been changed in 1.1 don't you?
I've already experienced that before doing the suggested tweak. What happens here is that when you press the home button, Cydia is still being released from memory and when you launch it almost immediate, you are looking at the 'Cydia-being-released-from-memory session', which is the previous instance of Cydia in layman.
You all know Cydia's way of being a process has been changed in 1.1 don't you?
still not as smooth as 4.1
After a few days of use I must say that although this tweak definitely makes things smoother, on my iPhone 4 it still isn't as smooth as it was on 4.1.
It's really a shame that apple is ignoring this. They sort of ruined it for me too soon. I feel like 3gs experience was great from day one till the upgrade to iPhone 4. If they don't do something extra in ios 5 they are going to lose people to android. Androids are becoming better and better with every release. I'm tempted
After a few days of use I must say that although this tweak definitely makes things smoother, on my iPhone 4 it still isn't as smooth as it was on 4.1.
It's really a shame that apple is ignoring this. They sort of ruined it for me too soon. I feel like 3gs experience was great from day one till the upgrade to iPhone 4. If they don't do something extra in ios 5 they are going to lose people to android. Androids are becoming better and better with every release. I'm tempted
I didn't know Cydia 1.1 was running like this.. But ok !
Just that I'm pretty sure that before removing those lines, I never experienced this kind of crash. Never.
It may be a pure coincidence but you must admit that it raises some questions, no ? For now, only a few people know about this tweak, but let's wait for some feedbacks..
I just did the tweak and it definately broke Cydia for me. Will be adding the two lines back...
Update: Added the lines back, Cydia loads fine.
Ran the process again..took the lines out, launched Cydia, hit home button, launched Cydia again, Cydia crashed. Tried several other apps including Apple native apps, thrid party apps, and jailbreak apps...all loaded fine as normal.
Put the lines back in, Cydia working fine again.
My experience is that removing the two lines affects Cydia's launching. I wouldn't sayy I'm rapid launching it. I just open Cydia, hit home to go to springboard, tap Cydia to load it again like I might any other app and the launch fails (until I remove it from background).
Update: Added the lines back, Cydia loads fine.
Ran the process again..took the lines out, launched Cydia, hit home button, launched Cydia again, Cydia crashed. Tried several other apps including Apple native apps, thrid party apps, and jailbreak apps...all loaded fine as normal.
Put the lines back in, Cydia working fine again.
My experience is that removing the two lines affects Cydia's launching. I wouldn't sayy I'm rapid launching it. I just open Cydia, hit home to go to springboard, tap Cydia to load it again like I might any other app and the launch fails (until I remove it from background).
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The two lines do nothing but make apps begin loading after the launch animation.
My Cydia works fine, but if you open and close it too many times in quick succession it can mess up, but then normal people open an app, use it, then close it.
Well you're lucky, because even if I use it normally, it's like : open > use > close -------- 15 min later : open > CRASH.) Is 15 min a bit too short to call it a normal use ?
Whatever, I don't mind if Cydia is a bit screwed with this tweak as it's not too serious. Just weird..
+1 but do you have any other cydia tweaks installed on your iPhone 4 ? (Mobile Substrate, etc..) ?
If some people doesn't have this issue at all (WeegieMac or bripab007, for the moment) , then it must be something else than just those two lines.
Yes, may very well be other tweaks (installed jb apps)
I do have MobileSubstrate and other things running (like Activator, SpringFlash, RemoveBackground, etc.) that could be causing the conflict with Cydia and the plist tweak.
Okay, so I'm back to iOS 4.2.1. While I was on 4.3.3. the two lines removed did help with the animations, but the overall feel of the phone still felt a little weird. I read through the posts to find out if anyone found out what the two lines actually did, because apparently they are there for a reason.
So they launch applications while loading them as well.
BUT...
So this does line that has been removed, and replaced with the new one.
"<key>launch-applications-while-
animating</key>
<true/>"
Found in the N88AP.plist in iOS 4.2.1
Instead of deleting the line, I simply put false, and timed the launch of a couple of applications, and they do indeed start loading after the animation is finished. 0.4-1 second longer for basic apps, longer for higher intense apps like games, etc, when this line is disabled.
Point in hand, this does the exact same thing without all of the sloppy animations. AND, you'll be loading them faster than a stock iOS 4.3.3 anyhow.
On iOS 4.3.3, the apps, by default already take a little longer than usual to load than previous versions ie. 4.2.1. (Don't remember how long they took before that.) Once those two lines were removed, it just did not feel snappy at all. Sure the smoothness was back, but it just felt like the phone was slow, as if Winterboard was installed with a whole bunch of themes. To me, it just didn't feel like the iPhone I once had. Where stuff loaded quickly, and correctly.
As another user said, maybe those lines were meant for an iPad 2 in mind. Apple loads stuff onto their softwares versions even if you can't even use it.
Carrier bundles, Camera.app, Phone.app, tethering, and all this other for an iPod Touch 3G and below? What the Hell for?
Even then the iPad 2 STILL loads 3rd party apps in that weird way. In lots of comparison videos you can see it.
So I'm just going to stay on 4.2.1. I had no business upgrading anyhow. The faster Safari is not really that much of a big deal for me, because the difference was minimal.
Tethering... Don't use it, and Ping... a supposed battery drain.
I'd rather have a faster phone all around, instead of in just one place (Safari.)
That's how I see it, after going through little things in each version.
4.2.1 = faster performance all around.
4.3.x = faster Safari performance. Yup, this is the true update that you get a "Safari is snappier" feel, but everything else is crappier feel.
At least to me it is.
So they launch applications while loading them as well.
BUT...
So this does line that has been removed, and replaced with the new one.
"<key>launch-applications-while-
animating</key>
<true/>"
Found in the N88AP.plist in iOS 4.2.1
Instead of deleting the line, I simply put false, and timed the launch of a couple of applications, and they do indeed start loading after the animation is finished. 0.4-1 second longer for basic apps, longer for higher intense apps like games, etc, when this line is disabled.
Point in hand, this does the exact same thing without all of the sloppy animations. AND, you'll be loading them faster than a stock iOS 4.3.3 anyhow.
On iOS 4.3.3, the apps, by default already take a little longer than usual to load than previous versions ie. 4.2.1. (Don't remember how long they took before that.) Once those two lines were removed, it just did not feel snappy at all. Sure the smoothness was back, but it just felt like the phone was slow, as if Winterboard was installed with a whole bunch of themes. To me, it just didn't feel like the iPhone I once had. Where stuff loaded quickly, and correctly.
As another user said, maybe those lines were meant for an iPad 2 in mind. Apple loads stuff onto their softwares versions even if you can't even use it.
Carrier bundles, Camera.app, Phone.app, tethering, and all this other for an iPod Touch 3G and below? What the Hell for?
Even then the iPad 2 STILL loads 3rd party apps in that weird way. In lots of comparison videos you can see it.
So I'm just going to stay on 4.2.1. I had no business upgrading anyhow. The faster Safari is not really that much of a big deal for me, because the difference was minimal.
Tethering... Don't use it, and Ping... a supposed battery drain.
I'd rather have a faster phone all around, instead of in just one place (Safari.)
That's how I see it, after going through little things in each version.
4.2.1 = faster performance all around.
4.3.x = faster Safari performance. Yup, this is the true update that you get a "Safari is snappier" feel, but everything else is crappier feel.
At least to me it is.
I got back to 4.2.1 too
Hey guys,
I am experiencing too the degradation of how the phone feels with 4.3.x.
For a few days I've tried a lot of stuff in order to stay with 4.3.x because I did wanted the several improvements such as personal hotspot, faster safari, 3rd party apps AirPlay and even some minor improvements like new facetime icons on the recent calls list.
But after trying all 4.3.x versions, and even trying this tweak, i decided it's just not it.
With this tweak, things at first felt a bit smoother, but then started noticing that the status bar blinks when getting back to an app from the multi-task switcher,
Cydia crashes randomly when opened when run for a second time (I noticed that opening cydia many times in succession actually solves the issue because one out of many times it opens successfully)
And all-over the feeling was just not it. I do not think there is a reason for this degradation to happen but apple doing it intentionally. there aren't any UI enhancements that could be "heavy" on the chip.
I decided to go back to 4.2.1 because I too prefer a better feeling than a few more features, the only thing that makes me worry is that I've already seen apps that require iOS 4.3 and above - Take iGO PRIMO - EUROPE for instance.
What are your thoughts ???
Thanks,
Jonathan
Hey guys,
I am experiencing too the degradation of how the phone feels with 4.3.x.
For a few days I've tried a lot of stuff in order to stay with 4.3.x because I did wanted the several improvements such as personal hotspot, faster safari, 3rd party apps AirPlay and even some minor improvements like new facetime icons on the recent calls list.
But after trying all 4.3.x versions, and even trying this tweak, i decided it's just not it.
With this tweak, things at first felt a bit smoother, but then started noticing that the status bar blinks when getting back to an app from the multi-task switcher,
Cydia crashes randomly when opened when run for a second time (I noticed that opening cydia many times in succession actually solves the issue because one out of many times it opens successfully)
And all-over the feeling was just not it. I do not think there is a reason for this degradation to happen but apple doing it intentionally. there aren't any UI enhancements that could be "heavy" on the chip.
I decided to go back to 4.2.1 because I too prefer a better feeling than a few more features, the only thing that makes me worry is that I've already seen apps that require iOS 4.3 and above - Take iGO PRIMO - EUROPE for instance.
What are your thoughts ???
Thanks,
Jonathan
Those you who downgraded , are you on the 4.10 baseband or a earlier version , when i downgrade to IOS4.2.1 with the 4.10 BB , i get a "CALL FAILED" error after a sucessfull incomming call is ended, lots of others with the same problem with IOS 421 and 4.10 BB
Ohh man, I didn't even think about it.
I do have this issue, I just did not think it's related
Damn apple for that. Does anyone know of a way to fix this ??
I just hate the decision I made upgrading to 4.3.3
Apple is just going to make me sorry I bought an iPhone
I was having Issues with performance and choppy animations as well. My solution was to reset all settings and then do a backup and restore of the stock 4.3.3 firmware. The phone runs a million times better without the jailbreak, so th blame most likely lies with MobileSubstrate. I'm going to hold off on jailbreaking for now, as I'd rather have my phone work properly.
You should try running un jailbroken and see if it improves the animations on your phone as well.
I wish I could say "wow, that's a great idea, there still is a chance it's redsn0w's fault and not Apple... I'll just restore it and get my old phone back..." but that's not the issue because i've already done that with all 4.3.x versions, and these just Suck Big Time !!!
There are a lot of bugs related to animations and GUI and I'm not the only
One who sees it.
Bout the "call failed" error, I noticed that it does not happen when the conversation is between two iPhones.
Just for curiosity, Anyone thought-of/tried copying the MobilePhone.app from iOS 4.3.x To 4.2. And see if it solves the issue of the "call failed" ?