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It didn't work that way with the 15.4" 2019. It gets worse battery life than any MacBook I have had in quite some time. So keep on being condescending.
You also have a higher wattage CPU (45w vs 28w) AND a discrete GPU in the 15.4” model versus an iGPU in the 13”, which accounts for the shorter battery life than the 13”. This is nothing new or novel. Life is full of compromises and that was the one Apple made for Pros.
 
Yes, I think it's ridiculous that bigger batteries last longer.

All 15" and 16" intel machines had significantly worse battery life than the 13" pros. All of them in any configuration you could imagine.

Apple changed it up by offering the same chip options regardless of body size. So now things shift in the other direction. So yes, maybe obvious to some, but maybe not those who have purchased MBPs over the past 15 years.
 
All 15" and 16" intel machines had significantly worse battery life than the 13" pros. All of them in any configuration you could imagine.

Apple changed it up by offering the same chip options regardless of body size. So now things shift in the other direction. So yes, maybe obvious to some, but maybe not those who have purchased MBPs over the past 15 years.

Exactly.
 
All 15" and 16" intel machines had significantly worse battery life than the 13" pros. All of them in any configuration you could imagine.

Apple changed it up by offering the same chip options regardless of body size. So now things shift in the other direction. So yes, maybe obvious to some, but maybe not those who have purchased MBPs over the past 15 years.
Yeah I know, and my sarcasm was a bit of a **ck move. Sorry.
 
I didn't say jealous, I said it was irritating. No need to get snide or rude.
Getting irritated that the other machine is faster is definitely jealousy.

Think of it like a track team. If I’m getting better, why should I care if my friend is faster than me now? If I am, that’s jealousy, whether I’d like to admit it or not. (for those that don’t know, track/XC is essentially a personal sport, not too much of a team thing)
 
Those who are upgrading from the m1 machines last year are already losing enough battery life as it is and now it is being reported the 16" gets even better battery life than the 14".
The only thing that bothers me is that there still isn’t a 15/16” “air.” I would love a larger screen and 30+ hour lite usage battery life for a student/office work/etc laptop.

I know a lot of people who ordered M1 Pro 16” only for the screen size, who would be better served by a 3.5 lb 15” m1 air with longer battery life.

Personally the main factor in picking the 16 was the embarrassing quoted battery life of the new MBPs. I really think not having 4 low power cores is a mistake. I was so hoping to be able to do lite duty work for almost 2x as long as an m1 air with 2x the battery capacity, instead I’ll be lucky to keep the same battery life, but I’m betting it’s a worthy trade off for larger screen and increased performance when I shift from web app/spreadsheet mode to Raw photo and 4k60 video edit mode.
 
The only thing that bothers me is that there still isn’t a 15/16” “air.” I would love a larger screen and 30+ hour lite usage battery life for a student/office work/etc laptop.

I know a lot of people who ordered M1 Pro 16” only for the screen size, who would be better served by a 3.5 lb 15” m1 air with longer battery life.

Personally the main factor in picking the 16 was the embarrassing quoted battery life of the new MBPs. I really think not having 4 low power cores is a mistake. I was so hoping to be able to do lite duty work for almost 2x as long as an m1 air with 2x the battery capacity, instead I’ll be lucky to keep the same battery life, but I’m betting it’s a worthy trade off for larger screen and increased performance when I shift from web app/spreadsheet mode to Raw photo and 4k60 video edit mode.
I think Apple is kind of shoving people’s hands who want the bigger machine to force them to buy a super expensive Pro if they want a 16”

Although I think most people who want an Air can’t really afford a $2400 16” Pro so I think Apple is just losing out sales in this regard (and for the type of work being done on an air, why would you want a heavy Pro anyways…)
 
That's like saying, "Are any others who have ordered the 16" M1 Pro a little irritated the 14" is more portable?" The 16" is a bigger computer that allows for a bigger battery which allows for greater battery life. You have to decide for yourself which trade-off(s) you are willing to make.
 
I'm excited the 14'' has the same CPU power as 16''. That never happened before. And can be had with 8TB SSD and 64GB RAM. This is like my dream laptop. And the only compromise is slightly lower battery life? Come on!
 
Those who are upgrading from the m1 machines last year are already losing enough battery life as it is and now it is being reported the 16" gets even better battery life than the 14".
Didn’t Apple state this at the start?
 
No because the 16" has a larger battery pack thanks to the larger case volume.

If anything, I'd be annoyed at the FAA/TSA for limiting the MBP 16's battery pack to 100 watts for air travel as I expect Apple might have been able to make it even larger if not for that limitation. :p
The battery is only 76 according to everymac.
 
You were aware of the battery life when you bought it. Now that the internal specs are effectively identical, battery life is purely a function of battery size. More internal space = more battery. There may also be small functional deifferences (fast charging rates, for example) that are impacted by thermal capabilities. More internal space = more tolerance for heat.
 
Big box is bigger than small box. Big box fit bigger battery box. Bigg battery box hold more electrons than small battery box.
 
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Big box is bigger than small box. Big box fit bigger battery box. Bigg battery box hold more electrons than small battery box.
Again, this hasn't been the case the past few years. Try more snark next time, I don't think you had enough this time.
 
Again, this hasn't been the case the past few years. Try more snark next time, I don't think you had enough this time.

It has always been the case that the larger model has a larger battery capacity. The only difference is that previous generations had different configurations in each model. We now have the same chips in both models, therefore you get longer life in the 16 inch due to the larger capacity.
 
It has always been the case that the larger model has a larger battery capacity. The only difference is that previous generations had different configurations in each model. We now have the same chips in both models, therefore you get longer life in the 16 inch due to the larger capacity.

Okay, but that being said it isn't too far off base on why someone would be confused due to the way it has been for awhile.
 
Okay, but that being said it isn't too far off base on why someone would be confused due to the way it has been for awhile.

I get that - consumers who aren't as tuned in to the specs, configs etc might not connect the dots, but Apple did point it out, to be fair.
 
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I get that - consumers who aren't as tuned in to the specs, configs etc might not connect the dots, but Apple did point it out, to be fair.

They did. I pointed out twice in previous posts that I guess that I missed that part.
 
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If you didn't know about MacBook, then you should realize even iPhone has been this way for years.

The processor doesn't consume more space on a larger device. Only the display gets larger. But volumetric capacity (i.e. battery capacity) grows faster than display power consumption.

End result is battery is bigger. More battery life.
 
The battery is only 76 according to everymac.

Then their info is incorrect. That being said, looking at all the 16" M1 Pro and M1 Max entries on everymac, they all show "100 W h Li-Poly" for the battery capacity so maybe they have subsequently updated it to the correct value of 100 watt-hours.

Apple's tech specs also state "100-watt-hour lithium-polymer battery" with the fine print being "99.6 watt-hours"..
 
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