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My MacBook slipped off the edge of the bath where it was balancing while I was, er, sitting down next to it, and it fell into the empty bathtub. No real damage, but there's a bit of a scuff and a very small dent.

And now I'm traumatised because my beautiful, perfect MacBook is no longer beautiful.

(It just occurs to me: I have no idea what damage the bath itself suffered. I don't even care.)

Why are we so obsessed with looks when it comes to our Apple products? I'm as guilty as anyone of needlessly upgrading. I currently have an iPhone 6+. I haven't upgraded to the 6S, partly because how much better could it possibly be, and partly because it physically looks the same. I'll try hard not to upgrade to the 7, but if Ives does his usual trick and somehow makes it better looking, I know I'll struggle not to persuade myself that actually 3D touch is an essential feature, and I really need those extra megapixels in the camera that I rarely use and whose photos I almost never look at.

I was looking at my dog just now. He's got scuff marks, too. He's got very thin skin and when he takes a tumble, it leaves a scar. I'm not traumatised about that at all. I love him just as much.

Is the genius of Apple that they turned a functional objection into a fashion item? Is there really any need to upgrade any of your Apple products more than about once every five years? I had the same TV for nearly nine years (until I buckled under needless, self-imposed pressure and bought a curved 1080p Samsung that I'm not sure is really all that much better than the 720p Sony I had).
 
self-criticism is the best way to get a better and happier life…

Since you are able to act in self-reflection I can assure you that you are NOT an apple fanboy - the fact that they are unable to do so is one of the "must" conditions to get a real fanboy.

perhaps it is time to make a foundation of the "anonymous Alcoh…" ehem.. "anonymous apple-addictives" … ;)
 
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I care a lot about all my tech products, but I don't see that as fanboyism. For example, I regularly dust and clean my computers (and phone) and make sure the screens never get scratched, etc. Whereas I have a friend who always upgrades to the latest iPhones and yet his current iPhone is scratched, discolored, and has a broken screen. So I don't even know what's going on there.

To me, an Apple fanboy is someone who thinks Apple can do no wrong (which I certainly do not think; I have many criticisms, but that doesn't stop me from preferring Apple products over other tech brands).

But sure, part of Apple's success is turning their products, especially the phones, into fashion items, into "must haves". No other brand is really doing that.
 
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It's true that there are people on these forums who will defend Apple under all circumstances and attack those who would criticise them. You could argue those people are not fanboys at all, since if you really love someone, i.e. Apple, you tell them the truth, e.g. iTunes is an ***** disaster.
 
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Semi-on/off subject.
It could be fanboy or also I could chalk it up to people not liking to be wrong or called out about what they spend their money on.
Some get emotional about purchases, there's nothing wrong with it, we like to feel we made a good decision and we can really love the things we buy.
I don't think it's fanboy-ism or OCD or anything of the like, I think it's just that when we buy something that in our eyes is the best product for us, we want it to stay in as pristine condition as possible.

And something that works for some people may not work for someone else, it's tough to create a product to perfectly fill everyone's needs that touches it. Like for me, example: iTunes does everything I want and need it to do and I personally don't have any negatives to say...because it works for me, in my particular setup. That could change but I like it as it is.
 
I dunno, if you have something beautiful you want to keep it that way, no matter the product. It's like if I had a painting or drawing I enjoy and want to keep it pristine. Definitely a good marketing ploy, though if they truly believe in their product like they say they do (which I really really hope they do, I like it when people care about stuff), then they're making it pretty simply because they want it to look good. This of course does not mean you should defend a product beyond all reason. I shall stop rambling now.
 
You saying I'm nuts?:confused:

Is a fanatic nuts? Or, merely, someone who is wildly, and excessively enthusiastic?

Actually, I am saying that anybody who defines themselves by a name - the etymological - in other words, - the actual word origin of which is rooted in the word 'fanatic' might want to examine……..a few things.
 
"Enthusiasm" used to refer to religious zealotry, so merely being enthusiastic is no better.

There are plenty of cynics in the world. The trouble is, when are you cynical *enough*?
 
"Enthusiasm" used to refer to religious zealotry, so merely being enthusiastic is no better.

There are plenty of cynics in the world. The trouble is, when are you cynical *enough*?

Leaving claims of cynicism (or realism) aside, my concern with anything to do with either fanaticism, or 'fanboyism', is the willing suspension of one's critical faculties, and the suppression of the rational part of one's mind. Cynicism has nothing to do with that.
 
Any type of fanboyism is a lot on the nutty side. :eek:

Got that right.;) I once got into an argument with a stranger at a comic con for mistaking my Vulcan costume with an elf costume. ELF!?:mad::mad::mad: I ended up unsuccessfully trying to nerve pinch him.:oops::oops:
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Got that right.;) I once got into an argument with a stranger at a comic con for mistaking my Vulcan costume with an elf costume. ELF!?:mad::mad::mad: I ended up unsuccessfully trying to nerve pinch him.:oops::oops:
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Mistaking a Vulcan for an elf??? THE HORROR!! I would have set my phaser to disintegrate down to quantum foam!
 
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Mistaking a Vulcan for an elf??? THE HORROR!! I would have set my phaser to disintegrate down to quantum foam!

Tut, tut. Do please bear in mind what Surak might think of that.

It is entirely possible that he would not view it as a proud defence of Vulcan values, but rather, as an………uncontrolled outburst of violent emotion. Indeed, it is entirely possible that he might arrive at the conclusion that this is very unVulcan, and represents a profound negation of an expression of core Vulcan values and philosophies…...
 
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Tut, tut. Do please bear in mind what Surak might think of that.

It is entirely possible that he would not view it as a proud defence of Vulcan values, but rather, as an………uncontrolled outburst of violent emotion. Indeed, it is entirely possible that he might arrive at the conclusion that this is very unVulcan, and represents a profound negation of an expression of a core Vulcan values and philosophies…...
I'm sorry, I'm only human - and I have my Klingon moments. Time to go turn on my Vulcan meditation lamp and purge my emotions.
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hehe... nuts...

if u insinuating that i like nuts, then yes I do :D

However, saying " a bit" is using the word loosely..... People actually taking their phones anywhere where is supposed to be a private space because no one can bear taking 2 eyes of a screen to use social networking apps ...

ya,,,, maybe a BIT nuts..

We've gotten so used to this stuff now, we'd rather marry our iphones then our g/f's ... That's usually what it sounds like here, by the amount of attention people spend with iPhone...

At least i can take a break once in a while, but users even sleep with them...... To me, that's going too far. Feel like a normal life yet ?
 
Taking care of your stuff isn't fanboyism (sp). Defending a company no matter what in spite of possible faults may be. Either way, I find no harm in those who defend Apple. If they can't see fault in a company then so be it. It is when those folks try to force their opinions on others that I find them to be annoying twits.
 
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