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Are iTunes Links Being Downranked by Google?

For those who want a google alternative:

There is bing. As we know.
And someone I know told me about duckduckgo. And it has a lot of commands:
https://duckduckgo.com/bang.html I'm going to give this one a try and see how good it is.

"We believe in better search and not tracking" is at the bottom of the duckduckgo page. I think that's something google needs to learn. Better search and less tracking our information please.
 
milo said:
Sure sounds like it. People are mocking Google's "don't be evil" slogan...when you take issue with that, it's hard to see that as anything but defending them.
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Let's try again...with my entire post, not one sentence of it:

Shrink said:
I'm not defending anybody...not Google, not Apple..not anybody.

I'm challenging what I see as non-logical and non-rational thinking.

As far as large corporations go...I could care less, since nothing I do or say changes anything.

But I will fight for rational thought.
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I'm not clear how I'm defending anybody...I can't see that that point is unclear. You are, of course, free to misunderstand or distort it in any way you wish.
 
rmwebs said:
Sorry but this is false. Nobody can/does pay to be higher in Google. It's an organic search engine, meaning the way to the top is to SEO the crap out of your content, and get backlinks.
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True. I think the other person mixed that up with the paid links, that you get next to the search results. These you can buy.


rmwebs said:
I see your point. But why would Google need to be regulated? As I noted in another post, this cant be compared to the MS domination.
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Actually, it can. It's not important for the definition of a monopoly, if people are forced by external, unintentional circumstances to use a certain product (like it is the case with Windows or Office).
In several major countries Google has >90% market share. Their global dominance is so strong they coined a verb of their own, and if you ask any random person in any random place on earth, chances are they know and use Google every day and haven't heard of other search engines.
Also don't forget that Google doesn't just have a monopoly among users but also among ad space sellers. In that respect their stranglehold is as strong as Microsoft's. Most companies are forced to buy Google ads if they want to get noticed, just because Google is so ubiquitous.

You are right, users could switch to another search engine with a simple mouse click, but chances are they won't. Most people wouldn't even notice worse or biased results, because for them Google results ARE the internet. They would never even suspect wrongdoing.
Just look how long it took other, far better browsers to overtake IE. People are lazy.
 
What a shocker. Anyone has done anything on the web knows that Google changes their algorithms on a daily basis. You can go from being 1st to 1000 in one day. How about Apple create a real web presence so users can search and install apps and maybe this will not affect them.
 
Speedy2 said:
Actually, it can. It's not important for the definition of a monopoly, if people are forced by external, unintentional circumstances to use a certain product (like it is the case with Windows or Office).
In several major countries Google has >90% market share. Their global dominance is so strong they coined a verb of their own, and if you ask any random person in any random place on earth, chances are they know and use Google every day and haven't heard of other search engines.
Also don't forget that Google doesn't just have a monopoly among users but also among ad space sellers. In that respect their stranglehold is as strong as Microsoft's. Most companies are forced to buy Google ads if they want to get noticed, just because Google is so ubiquitous.

You are right, users could switch to another search engine with a simple mouse click, but chances are they won't. Most people wouldn't even notice worse or biased results, because for them Google results ARE the internet. They would never even suspect wrongdoing.
Just look how long it took other, far better browsers to overtake IE. People are lazy.
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Could the government take an issue with this? Quite possibly yes.
 
the8thark said:
For those who want a google alternative:

There is bing. As we know.
And someone I know told me about duckduckgo. And it has a lot of commands:
https://duckduckgo.com/bang.html I'm going to give this one a try and see how good it is.

"We believe in better search and not tracking" is at the bottom of the duckduckgo page. I think that's something google needs to learn. Better search and less tracking our information please.
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I like duckduckgo. But I wonder if their model can sustain them financially. Google doesn't need to learn anything. They have a different business model. People can choose to use whichever service they want. That doesn't mean either company needs to change/learn anything.
 
Speedy2 said:
I don't know where you get your "knowledge", but MS had and still has a monopoly for OS and office, and Google has a monopoly for search in most countries of the world.
They are both actually textbook examples.
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So . . . we have people in this topic saying MS/Google are not a monopoly. And we have others saying MS/google are a monopoly. Which is true?

Is it a case of a differing opinion or is there hard fact for or against either of them being a monopoly?
 
jonAppleSeed said:
Ever search on iTunes?
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So Apple is downranking Google music when I search on iTunes? 😕

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Bubba Satori said:
No, they're not. Ever heard of Yahoo, Bing and countless others?
Time to crack the dictionary.
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"Monopoly" doesn't always mean "only" in the business world. It can also refer to companies that have a stranglehold on a market, despite the existence of competition. You may recall...Microsoft:

On April 3, 2000, a judgment was handed down in the case of United States v. Microsoft,[32] calling the company an "abusive monopoly"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft
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Microsoft was not alone in the marketplace, but they did own a dominant share that they leveraged in illegal (anti-trust) ways.

Bing and Yahoo are the Mac to Google's Windows.
 
LagunaSol said:
So Apple is downranking Google music when I search on iTunes? 😕
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Don't be obtuse. You know what the poster meant. Apple controls how search results come up on iTunes.

Since you can't get Google music on iTunes your comment is farcical. And irrelevant.
 
Hey guys! I'm gonna overreact and get angry about something kinda dumb! Who's with me?

ALL OF YOU? WELL HELL! LOOKS LIKE I'M LATE TO MY OWN PARTY!
 
the8thark said:
So . . . we have people in this topic saying MS/Google are not a monopoly. And we have others saying MS/google are a monopoly. Which is true?

Is it a case of a differing opinion or is there hard fact for or against either of them being a monopoly?
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You can simply look up the definition... using Google! 🙂

Well, there are two main definitions. In economics, a monopoly is usually defined very strictly as a market with only one seller. Most of them are/were state-owned corporations that are the only ones allowed to do business in a certain market. Another relevant category would be natural monopolies, in which the circumstances of the market don't really allow for more than one competitor (no one would build a second electrical grid or sewer system, for instance).

In law, a monopoly is less strictly defined as a market, in which one player clearly dominates. Usually the primary indicator for this is market share, but there can be others (e.g. technological barriers, patents). It is up to an individual court decision to define a monopoly. A monopoly in itself is not illegal. Even creating one isn't a problem if you manage to do it without illegally supressing the competition or buying other companies. Microsoft, Intel and Google all achieved that. The problem starts when a company tries to abuse their dominance, e.g. in order to keep competition from catching up or to gain an advantage in other markets. Both Microsoft and Intel were found guilty of such practices.

So far, Google has a clean sheet. I'm pretty sure this whole iTunes search result issues is just a bug that will be weeded out quickly. Everything else would be simply stupid.
 
aerok said:
😱 You're being rational, you must be an Apple hater and Google/Samsung fanboy.
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Actually, for me being rational means not giving a s*** about Apple, or Google, or Samsung, or anything beyond using what works for the individual. And also that all this partisan horse crap gives me a giant pain in the ass.

All of the "hate" crap is just so goddamn juvenile. This is all totally trivial nonsense.


BTW: I understand you were being facetious...I hope!!😱
 
Shrink said:
Actually, for me being rational means not giving a s*** about Apple, or Google, or Samsung, or anything beyond using what works for the individual. And also that all this partisan horse crap gives me a giant pain in the ass.

All of the "hate" crap is just so goddamn juvenile. This is all totally trivial nonsense.


BTW: I understand you were being facetious...I hope!!😱
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LOL I was being facetious but not far from the truth with people here...
 
samcraig said:
I just googled Hot Pockets and the proper website was listed first. I'm good.
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God bless you, sir. And God bless Google for making the appropriate website the first hit.

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aerok said:
Ain't no party like a tinfoil hat party 😛
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Yeah! Let's rock out like the government ain't watching every move we make!

...which we can't do, cuz they are. They're always watching. O_O
 
Renzatic said:
God bless you, sir. And God bless Google for making the appropriate website the first hit.

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Yeah! Let's rock out like the government ain't watching every move we make!

...which we can't do, cuz they are. They're always watching. O_O
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But we are not scared of the government, we are scared of Google 😵

They do EVIL stuff like change search result ranking!!!!!!!!!!!! 😱

I cannot let them have my sperm count to sell me ads 😱
 
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