I'd pay you if you can find that option in Windows 10. I always had Windows notify of updates but 10 forces it. And disabling Windows Update service aint a option.
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Are Mac users in a transitional stage?
- Thread starter hajime
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
I'd pay you if you can find that option in Windows 10. I always had Windows notify of updates but 10 forces it. And disabling Windows Update service aint a option.
If you cannot find such option, perhaps opening an notepad as other suggested could be an option.
"Are Mac users in a transitional stage?"
Probably but in my view Apple is in the transition stage more so than users. They are making decisions about monitor support, external GPU support, Mac Pro successor, relationship with Intel and obviously many others. Of course, Apple's transition impacts users too.
Probably but in my view Apple is in the transition stage more so than users. They are making decisions about monitor support, external GPU support, Mac Pro successor, relationship with Intel and obviously many others. Of course, Apple's transition impacts users too.
In part, "Pro" is in how you define it. There will always be computer users who need a cutting-edge configuration with the most powerful CPU, GPU, largest storage, I/O ports galore, etc. However, as mainstream hardware becomes more capable over the course of time, tasks that once required bleeding-edge hardware may no longer require it.
I started doing desktop audio on a Mac back in the 1990s. Great software (Sonic Solutions) that cost thousands of dollars, that required bleeding edge hardware (the DVD burner alone cost $3,000). Now, anyone with GarageBand on a garden variety Mac can run circles around that, and LogicPro doesn't exactly require a nMP, either. Does it mean that music-making became "less professional?" No, it simply meant that professionals and serious amateurs don't necessarily have to go broke to have the tools they need.
So, maybe Apple is less interested in serving "media professionals," but maybe it's because everybody is now producing media, and nearly every product Apple makes is capable of producing "broadcast quality" productions, from iPod Touch on up. Professionals may lament the fact that they're no longer gatekeepers to arcane tools and technology, but if they're using a Mac to set type, record and mix music, edit video or still images... it's because those "expensive, professional" computers replaced equipment that cost orders of magnitude more than a computer. There's a fair possibility that, as young, early adopters, they put a fair number of older, higher-paid, less-nimble artisans out of work. And so it goes.
I started doing desktop audio on a Mac back in the 1990s. Great software (Sonic Solutions) that cost thousands of dollars, that required bleeding edge hardware (the DVD burner alone cost $3,000). Now, anyone with GarageBand on a garden variety Mac can run circles around that, and LogicPro doesn't exactly require a nMP, either. Does it mean that music-making became "less professional?" No, it simply meant that professionals and serious amateurs don't necessarily have to go broke to have the tools they need.
So, maybe Apple is less interested in serving "media professionals," but maybe it's because everybody is now producing media, and nearly every product Apple makes is capable of producing "broadcast quality" productions, from iPod Touch on up. Professionals may lament the fact that they're no longer gatekeepers to arcane tools and technology, but if they're using a Mac to set type, record and mix music, edit video or still images... it's because those "expensive, professional" computers replaced equipment that cost orders of magnitude more than a computer. There's a fair possibility that, as young, early adopters, they put a fair number of older, higher-paid, less-nimble artisans out of work. And so it goes.
That is what I currently do now. Before Windows 10, I had Windows Update notify when updates were available, so they wouldn't download, install, and reboot automatically. Now, with Windows 10, updates download, install, and reboot automatically with no say what so ever. At least I can stop the auto reboot with the notepad trick, but it is not a real solution to this problem. Not all updates are smooth sailing.
I guess we'll have to wait and see if the rumors are true, but in general I'm in agreement with you that the new Macbook doesn't get me excited. I wrote a post about how I think the current gen Pro is going to be better for me than the new one.
It sounds like you might value the slimming and lightening up more than I do though, so maybe you will really like the new one, assuming they do both of those things?
What'd be great is if we could get Avid, Waves, Slate, and VSL to run on Linux machines. Over ethernet anf Thunderbolt.
After using my 2013 13" RMBP for almost three years (longest run with a laptop ever) I decided that since my office has adopted MS Office across the board and I use mostly Windows Apps for work, I would get the top rated Windows 10 laptop to replace it. So I picked up a Dell XPS13 fully loaded.
What a disaster! Dell's Thunderbolt3 dock never worked but after fighting with updates and tech support for over 30 days, Dell says that they have stopped selling it and have no idea it/when they will fix it. Since I bought it from a 3rd party, they would not take it back so I have a $300 brick. What's even worse, no way to connect an external monitor other than the marginally acceptable Displaylink docks. Add that Windows10 and apps have absolutely no way to manage high res displays. Basically an unusable combo.
Worked back not the MBP the last few days and find myself trying to figure out why I bailed. I should also add that my 3 Y.O. Mac performs as well or better than the XPS on Windows Apps with Fusion.
Having to return anything five times for repair wouldn't be a positive for me no matter what the outcome was.
This is one thing that I dislike about Apple. It seems like they neglect a lot of products until they absolutely have to be upgraded. Right now that is sort of a lot of their products.
But I'm pretty sure Tim Cook did say specifically that they weren't thinking about merging the two. But his word means nothing haha.
But I'm pretty sure Tim Cook did say specifically that they weren't thinking about merging the two. But his word means nothing haha.
Actually, I kinda admire that they really don't release an update just for the sake of an update. Unless Intel adds some great feature or speed, I don't need an update. For the past year the Intel platform has been a mess. While PC maker have done their traditional update cycles, either nothing of value was added or quite simply, it just does not work. Go get a PC with TB3/USB3 and find out for yourself what a mess it is. I hope Apple is letting it settle out a bit before the new MBP's roll out.
Of course there are advancements in video cards and such, but Apple had never looked to be on the bleeding edge in that area. They are about functionality and battery life along with real world performance - not chasing the ultimate benchmark. Yes they were quick to adopt the latest when they had an exclusive with intel, but the intel roadmap has completely flattened out and the only improvements have been in battery life where they are getting to where Apple has been all along.
You make some good points, it can just be annoying buying a product which is still a premium price but specs wise is behind. I think its probably just because I'm coming from windows/android and like to get products after a major refresh, which is normally yearly. But with apple its not yearly. So I gotta just get used to it maybe.
Interesting post and I like the different viewpoints. For me, the OS is becoming less of an issue. I have to use Windows 10 for website testing and a few other things. It's not (in my view) as good as MacOS, but I don't find it terrible - in fact, I'd say it was getting back on track after some awful releases. (12 years ago I was not only a PC user but also a Microsoft Partner; when Vista came out I'd had enough and moved - and not looked back.) But, since I use mostly Creative Cloud and Office, switching would not be that much of a pain if I had to. I mostly edit video and have a great MacPro, but it is frustrating to watch PC adopt more powerful processors etc more quickly. I couldn't do my job on an iPad. The current MacPros are shamefully out of date and the MacPro isn't that much better.
I used Linux, Windows ME and XP when I was a graduate student. I used these OS because my supervisor forced me to. I could get a degree without Mac OS. Backup is another story. I created many files with long filenames. I cannot just drag and drop to an external drive. Anybody knows how to resolve this issue?
I guess I could survive if I give up the Mac line. How is Windows 10 compared with ME and XP?
I guess I could survive if I give up the Mac line. How is Windows 10 compared with ME and XP?
No, Apple has plenty of money and can always hire more resources. It's a business decision to slow down the Pro line.
I believe Apple has made an assessment that the PC market is mature enough, and the technology stable enough, that it no longer makes sense to make minor updates. They seem to believe that each iteration is viable for a longer period.
The proof will be when new processor families become available, that Apple feels are worthy of a major update. If you don't see an update to the Pro at that time, that will be a pretty clear message.