Are sms secure

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  1. epi117 macrumors 6502

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    Is it a valid statement to say sms are secure?

    Assuming your phone requires code to open, that you can do remote wipe and that your services provider erases messages after three days, would this be a valid statement?
     
  2. ClutchThese macrumors 65816

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    No. Secure would be, NO possible way anyone else can access your messages.
     
  3. epi117 thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Lol just within reason, i guess my question is, is it assecure as a phone call Ceteris Paribus.
     
  4. iApples macrumors 65816

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    I wish it was. Especially with all the sexting going on.
     
  5. GoCubsGo macrumors Nehalem

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    No. Messages pass through a server that you don't have access to, at least I think that's how it rolls.

    Never consider digital data to be secure after it leaves your hands.
     
  6. SandboxGeneral Moderator

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    Many cellular carriers store all SMS on their servers for 6 months or so, just in case they get subpoenaed by law enforcement.
     
  7. vincenz macrumors 601

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    If you have to ask, then you probably shouldn't be doing what you're doing over text :cool:
     
  8. epi117 thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Pretty sure its more like 3 days
     
  9. iApples macrumors 65816

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    Actually its not. You can request a list of all sent text messages at the end of a billing cycle. Which means they need to be on file. Nice guess though...
     
  10. epi117 thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Sorry for so many questions wrting a paper as we speak.

    When youbackup to itunes, does it store all your text messages? Newb question but ihave never really paid attention on previous backups.
     
  11. b166er macrumors 68020

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    I've done a restore in the past which also restored the texts I had on my phone at the time of the initial backup- so yes in a sense it does store them.
     
  12. wordoflife macrumors 604

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    Carriers don't say how long text messages have been saved. Some say Verizon keeps them for 3 days, but I doubt it. Usually, the only way to get them is from a court order. But you can see when they were send and received, just not the actual content.
     
  13. Interstella5555 macrumors 603

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    You're pretty much wrong, especially considering the direct taps that all major carriers voluntarily let the NSA/FBI put onto their servers. Good luck believing that though.
     
  14. Tarzanman macrumors 65816

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    It is decidedly NOT secure at any point. It is easy to read them off of your phone, it is easy to read them (in plain text) on the screen of the core network and it is easy to read them off of the recipients' phones.
     
  15. err404 macrumors 68020

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    Add to that the underlying cellular data network encryption has been shown to be compromised. Not much to prevent people from just grabbing messages out of the air.
     
  16. Apple 26.2 Contributor

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    What up, 212?!
  17. epi117 thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Thanks for your insightful replies, just finished typing up talking points for usage of text with patients.

    We are never going to text health info, just appt reminders etc with op in.
     
  18. Stealthipad macrumors 68040

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    Not!
     
  19. wpotere, Apr 4, 2011
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    It is backed up regularly and stored... FCC requirement.
     
  20. pittpanthersfan macrumors 6502

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    Let's just say that the nations that have outlawed BBM love SMS.
     

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