Are the screens on the 13" MBP still crappier than the 15"?

[DoNoHarm]

Hello Everyone,

I remember when the unibodies first came out, I was all set on getting the 13" mb unibodies. However, after taking one look at their screens in the apple store, I bought the MBP classic instead due to the amazing screen.

Now that they are both called the "pro" do they come with identical screen capabilities (other than the size and resolution, obviously).

Thanks.

 

[iLog.Genius]

I think the 15" still has the superior screen. I don't think the new screens with increase of color gamut necessarily mean better quality and that's what people get confused about. Forget about the "Pro" tag, it was just slapped on, it's still a MacBook.

 

[cababah]

I think the 15" still has the superior screen. I don't think the new screens with increase of color gamut necessarily mean better quality and that's what people get confused about. Forget about the "Pro" tag, it was just slapped on, it's still a MacBook.

And the base 15" is just a 15" MacBook then, right?

 

[iLog.Genius]

And the base 15" is just a 15" MacBook then, right?

To be honest, I think it is.

 

[tim2006]

To be honest, I think it is.

I would think that all of the 15's share the same quality of screen.

 

[cababah]

To be honest, I think it is.

As much as I love my 13" MBP, I have to agree with you. I don't think you really can have what defines a Mac as "Pro" in a 13" screen (viewing space for editing/dedicated graphics/space for cooling due to increased CPU speeds)

I didn't buy it because I was like "OMFZG itS a Pr0!"..I liked the fact that it was a significant upgrade to the 13" uMB.

 

[iLog.Genius]

I would think that all of the 15's share the same quality of screen.

That's probably why it still has the good screen because it's used in the mid and top-end MacBook Pro's.

Also, I didn't buy mine because it was "Pro". It suited my needs best so I pulled the trigger. I'm not arguing should be called pro or not, I really don't care but it's to clarify to people who ask "well if this is a "Pro" machine, why does it lack in this and that". There are still people out there who think the hardware should be a level because it was given the "Pro" name and which should not be mixed with the people who really believe the 13" is more powerful then the portable it replaced.

 

[Vulcan]

I think that they are just about equal now. I own a 13" MBP and was just in the Apple Store yesterday and didn't notice a difference.

 

[HLdan]

I think the 15" still has the superior screen. I don't think the new screens with increase of color gamut necessarily mean better quality and that's what people get confused about. Forget about the "Pro" tag, it was just slapped on, it's still a MacBook.

The "Pro" tag wasn't just slapped on there. Call it what you feel dude, it's still a Macbook Pro. Apple's mistake was dumbing it down and calling it a Macbook in the first place. Aside from the crap screen and missing firewire the previous one was still very close to a Macbook Pro. If you want to ignore the support for 8GB ram, firewire 800, upgrade quality screen and SD slot and 7 hour battery then so be it, you're just in denial. And I'll bet you knew very little about the 12" Powerbook (which was nothing but a glorified iBook) because this new 13" MBP kicks the crap out of it in screen quality and feature set.

 

[Doju]

As much as I love my 13" MBP, I have to agree with you. I don't think you really can have what defines a Mac as "Pro" in a 13" screen (viewing space for editing/dedicated graphics/space for cooling due to increased CPU speeds)

I didn't buy it because I was like "OMFZG itS a Pr0!"..I liked the fact that it was a significant upgrade to the 13" uMB.

You're confusing "pro" with the incorrect ideology that all "pros" are graphic majors who need high speed graphics and processors.

There are MANY pros who use MacBook Airs. These screen size or graphics card have nothing to do with the "pro"ness of a laptop. Not all pro users require those things, simple as that.

For many pros, they mean nothing, while portability and being able to bring their job/life everywhere IS, which is why in some cases, the 13" MBP may be even more pro than its 15" counterpart, for some people.

 

[SnowLeopard2008]

The 13" MBP screen is phenomenally better than any previous 13" screens. It's not that far from the 15" MBP screen. But overall, the 13" panel is much better than before.

 

[cababah]

You're confusing "pro" with the incorrect ideology that all "pros" are graphic majors who need high speed graphics and processors.

There are MANY pros who use MacBook Airs. These screen size or graphics card have nothing to do with the "pro"ness of a laptop. Not all pro users require those things, simple as that.

For many pros, they mean nothing, while portability and being able to bring their job/life everywhere IS, which is why in some cases, the 13" MBP may be even more pro than its 15" counterpart, for some people.

Yeah this could potentially spawn a never-ending debate with regards to the word, "pro." I don't really think it matters. Nobody buys a computer based on the name but rather what it has inside. I just like to think of it in a way such as: Buy the computer you like and suits your needs and enjoy it.

I don't think it is really worth it to get all philosophical and ponder the true meaning of "pro."

Bottom line is the 13" MBP kicks a** regardless of whether it has a suiting title or not.

 

[stainlessliquid]

I would consider a "pro" notebook something like the Dell Precision. Something with workstation power using the best parts available. In that case none of the Macbook Pros fit the bill. Its just a name to separate high end and low end.

 

[vanc]

Per the test done by this review, 13' screen is a little bit better than 15'. 17' is the best of course.

 

[iLog.Genius]

Why can't we call the WhiteBook a MacBook Pro as well?

 

[PolySciSurfer]

Per the test done by this review, 13' screen is a little bit better than 15'. 17' is the best of course.

That review is terrible. Any body can look at a 9C9E screen in the 13" MBP and know that the "color accuracy" sucks!

 

[Agentmckay]

That review is terrible. Any body can look at a 9C9E screen in the 13" MBP and know that the "color accuracy" sucks!

Nope, 13.3 screen looks as good if not better then the 15. The 17 may be a bit better but only because of the larger size as anybody can see.

 

[Gogf]

Thoughts: I don't think the word "pro" really has any meaning in the way that we're using it. Anybody with a job is technically a professional, so almost everybody here is a "pro" in the sense that some are using the word. The meaning that Apple ascribes to pro is "upscale/expensive/sexy." It's a marketing ploy. But the secondary implications of the word, and the one that I think it's probably most productive to capitalize on, are that the computer is intended for people who are "computer professionals" who need high-end machines to run very specific software.

On the other hand, I really don't buy into the theory that two additional diagonal inches of screen space actually has a significant impact on someone's ability to do serious graphics or video work. The idea that a 15 inch screen is "professional" [in that sense of the word] in a way that a 13 inch screen is not is just absolutely nuts. It's nice. It makes work easier. It probably makes it especially easier for people who are doing hard-core graphics work. But the real deal here is going to be a second monitor, not a slightly easier-to-use machine.

 

[PolySciSurfer]

Nope, 13.3 screen looks as good if not better then the 15. The 17 may be a bit better but only because of the larger size as anybody can see.

NO. Your wrong.

 

[mikes70mustang]

The "Pro" tag wasn't just slapped on there. Call it what you feel dude, it's still a Macbook Pro. Apple's mistake was dumbing it down and calling it a Macbook in the first place. Aside from the crap screen and missing firewire the previous one was still very close to a Macbook Pro. If you want to ignore the support for 8GB ram, firewire 800, upgrade quality screen and SD slot and 7 hour battery then so be it, you're just in denial. And I'll bet you knew very little about the 12" Powerbook (which was nothing but a glorified iBook) because this new 13" MBP kicks the crap out of it in screen quality and feature set.

Isnt there enough "Pro" arguments already?

 

[J&JPolangin]

Why can't we call the WhiteBook a MacBook Pro as well?

...thank you, I like my new whitebook pro (she's being used for work right now in another window)...

 

[hr10]

I got a chance to compare both mbp 13" vs 15 mbp. Color and viewing angel is almost identical. The only difference is just the brightness. The 15" is around 20% brighter in general

 

[Ruahrc]

That review is terrible. Any body can look at a 9C9E screen in the 13" MBP and know that the "color accuracy" sucks!

Yeah. Trust Macrumors posters who are squinting at their eyeball-calibrated (or even worse, uncalibrated) screen in poorly lit dorm rooms, or trust Rob who has actually measured the screens using spectrophotometers and colorimeters. Tough choice.

Ruahrc

 

[clyde2801]

How do the new 13" mbps compare with uni mb screens made in 09 before the refresh? Apple quietly upgraded the screens in the unis, are they the same ones?

 

[PolySciSurfer]

How do the new 13" mbps compare with uni mb screens made in 09 before the refresh? Apple quietly upgraded the screens in the unis, are they the same ones?

The uni mb screens are far superior.