Are there any glass protectors that cover the notch?

[ICEBreaker]

I am also looking for a screen protector without the notch. I can't stand the ugly notch when the screen is on, and I certainly don't want to see the notch cut out of the protector when the screen is off!! I never get why people who go for the minimalistic design of Apple products then go out of the way to accessorise and ruin the aesthetics of the phone. An example is all those cases with the Apple logo cutout. The way the skins (d-brand, slickwrap etc) do it with a precise Apple logo cutout is nice - very subtle. But the way phone cases do it with that circle is hideous it really detracts from Apple's minimalist design.

I don't think either of these would work well as they cover the 3D sensor so Face ID wouldn't be able to measure the different depths of your face.

What you are saying might be true, but I don't really see why that's a given. Infrared sensors, cameras, etc all have glass covers. Why would an extra layer of glass be any different? Sure it could be that these protective glass are made of different material, which say, change the polarisation or whatever, amongst other things, but it doesn't seem as if ALL glass would disrupt the sensors. Anyway, I agree it's a point to consider though.

+1 No issues with either FaceID or feel/force touch. It's like not having a protector at all.

Thanks! I'll be checking iCarez screens out then! I didn't know about the cut out, and bought the Otter Alpha Glass. Damn, wasted money on that.

Help what?
I put a screen protector on the phone, then a few dots of white-out goes on the protector over the camera. Nothing gets through that. I've done that to every iPhone I've had and it works perfectly.

Yikes! What a way to ruin the aesthetics of a beautiful phone. Shocking idea. I appreciate your motives, but why not just use a thin piece of black duct tape? At least that wouldn't be an eye sore. You don't even need the screen protector. By the way, the iPhone 8 Plus has a much larger screen then the iPhone X.

 

[Sill]

Infrared sensors, cameras, etc all have glass covers. Why would an extra layer of glass be any different? Sure it could be that these protective glass are made of different material, which say, change the polarisation or whatever, amongst other things, but it doesn't seem as if ALL glass would disrupt the sensors. Anyway, I agree it's a point to consider though.

Any sensor that uses data to interpret a viewed 3D image - whether it is a camera or a face detector or whatever - that data has to arrive at the sensor with distortion within a very small tolerance. The glass over these sensors is incredibly consistent in its transmissivity of light and the relevant information that light is carrying. That glass represents a significant portion of the cost of such sensors. But I'm sure you knew that. What you may not consider is that these cases and protectors, which have production costs that are minimal compared to their price tags, may have glass in them that adds toric distortion, artifacts, or otherwise impedes the necessary info. Additionally, those camera/sensor glass covers are incredibly consistent across environmental extremes, whereas the case or screen covers may increase distortion based on temperatures.
I'd prefer these cameras didn't even exist on my phone, so I don't care if its obscured or otherwise defeated, but for people who can't live without the latest privacy-sacrificing "feature", they'll want those cameras seeing things without distortion.

Yikes! What a way to ruin the aesthetics of a beautiful phone. Shocking idea. I appreciate your motives, but why not just use a thin piece of black duct tape? At least that wouldn't be an eye sore. You don't even need the screen protector.

Yes, iPhones are beautiful phones, and I like mine to stay that way. I keep them securely cased from the moment I put them into service, and they never leave their cases except for routine cleaning. Thats why all my phones look new, even going back to my 3G. They all work, and none of them have any damage.
My current iPhone 6S sits in an Otterbox Defender 24 hours a day, due to my sometimes extreme work environment. It has an integrated screen protector. If I bought an iPhone X and got the same case for it, I'd have to add a screen protector because Otterbox decided the X Defender shouldn't come with one, for some reason.

Black duct tape won't stay on the phone in certain environments. The white-out works very well - I put a small piece of scotch tape over whatever sensor I want to obscure, a few drops of liquid paper, and it lasts for years without needing reapplication. Its not even noticeable on my screen, really. If it bothered me, I'd use a black Sharpie to color it in.

By the way, the iPhone 8 Plus has a much larger screen then the iPhone X.

What does the 8 Plus have to do with this?

 

[ICEBreaker]

Any sensor that uses data to interpret a viewed 3D image - whether it is a camera or a face detector or whatever - that data has to arrive at the sensor with distortion within a very small tolerance. The glass over these sensors is incredibly consistent in its transmissivity of light and the relevant information that light is carrying. That glass represents a significant portion of the cost of such sensors. But I'm sure you knew that. What you may not consider is that these cases and protectors, which have production costs that are minimal compared to their price tags, may have glass in them that adds toric distortion, artifacts, or otherwise impedes the necessary info. Additionally, those camera/sensor glass covers are incredibly consistent across environmental extremes, whereas the case or screen covers may increase distortion based on temperatures.

You obviously know a lot about this, and I am pretty sure your points are valid. But as the kind of person who don't just take people's word for it even if it sounds very logical and well thought out, I just experimented with several different see-through plastic, including clear wrapping paper, a Ferrero Rocher candy box case, and the back of a transparent phone case. Well, the astonishing thing is that the iPhone was able to detect my face successfully, even when my face was off-angle, and in complete darkness. The only thing that failed was when I went to the extreme and used scotch tape, which is only semi transparent. It would seem that the iPhone X sensors are more robust in depth detection than you give them credit for. I am now somewhat more confident that screen protectors without a notch cut out would only degrade the detection ability of the phone minimally, if even that. So I will be giving the iCarez protector a go.

Yes, iPhones are beautiful phones, and I like mine to stay that way. I keep them securely cased from the moment I put them into service, and they never leave their cases except for routine cleaning. Thats why all my phones look new, even going back to my 3G. They all work, and none of them have any damage.

That's great! And who am I to argue with that. My personal thinking is that there isn't much point in something looking nice if it is covered up - but that's just me.

Black duct tape won't stay on the phone in certain environments. The white-out works very well - I put a small piece of scotch tape over whatever sensor I want to obscure, a few drops of liquid paper, and it lasts for years without needing reapplication. Its not even noticeable on my screen, really.

I see. Well, I suppose we work in very different environment then. Can't really imagine how duct tape won't work in my environment. I use it on cameras all the time and they work extremely well for me. Glad you found something that works for you.

What does the 8 Plus have to do with this?

Am I mistaken? I think you wrote somewhere that you prefer the iPhone X over the iPhone 8 because of it's larger screen. This is of course not true, once you take into account of the aspect ratio. Perhaps I misread. Never mind.

Thanks for the very careful explanations that you provided. I appreciate the time you spent to reply.

 

[Sill]

You obviously know a lot about this, and I am pretty sure your points are valid. But as the kind of person who don't just take people's word for it even if it sounds very logical and well thought out, I just experimented with several different see-through plastic, including clear wrapping paper, a Ferrero Rocher candy box case, and the back of a transparent phone case. Well, the astonishing thing is that the iPhone was able to detect my face successfully, even when my face was off-angle, and in complete darkness. The only thing that failed was when I went to the extreme and used scotch tape, which is only semi transparent. It would seem that the iPhone X sensors are more robust in depth detection than you give them credit for. I am now somewhat more confident that screen protectors without a notch cut out would only degrade the detection ability of the phone minimally, if even that. So I will be giving the iCarez protector a go.

You're talking about the infrared sensor, which is using a very restricted bandwidth both on the light produced and on the sensor receiving it. You could almost say its a discrete source, like a laser. Unlike the face detectors that other companies have put into use - which apparently use a highly detailed selfie with visible light and then compare it via what is essentially a phone version of Tineye - that sensor isn't looking for color or detail, its looking for relative depth on many data points. It has no concern over ambient light either, which is something that directly affects a standard camera. With that limited wheelhouse, its relatively easy to get maximum performance out of a high quality infrared sensor and light combination, as opposed to a camera or 2D/3D face detection system. You'd definitely see a difference if you took pictures with those same impediments in place over the forward camera. If you used the flash, even more of a difference. If you turn your screen cover on an angle, or introduced a curve into it, you'd exaggerate the toric distortion and make it noticeable.

I see. Well, I suppose we work in very different environment then. Can't really imagine how duct tape won't work in my environment. I use it on cameras all the time and they work extremely well for me. Glad you found something that works for you.

I was thinking of black electrical tape. That stuff just falls right off. I didn't even realize I had said black duct tape until your comment forced me to reread mine. I need more sleep..
Yes, black duct tape would work. I actually use it myself and the humidity makes it stick even better. Its a bit thick and gooey for the phone though. The whiteout is much lower profile and it doesn't give off any stickiness that might spread to other things as I've seen from the black duct tape.

Am I mistaken? I think you wrote somewhere that you prefer the iPhone X over the iPhone 8 because of it's larger screen. This is of course not true, once you take into account of the aspect ratio. Perhaps I misread. Never mind.

You read right. I was referring to the maximum use of the space available to use for the screen in roughly the same size as the iPhone 8. The 8Plus, like all the other iPhone Plus before it is definitely bigger. I'd get a Plus but that'd be incredibly hard to have at my job. Too big on the belt clip, too hard to use one handed - for my personal use case. The iPhone has the dual camera setup and a very nice screen in a standard form factor.

Thanks for the very careful explanations that you provided. I appreciate the time you spent to reply.

I enjoy civil discourse here. Thanks likewise.