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Are they any Radeon Pro 460 benchmarks out yet?
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Apparently you haven't been paying attention to the forums, but for a lot of professions (particularly video production), this is the first time an Apple laptop has ever been pro grade.
I'm not sure what your career is that this machine can't handle. There are plenty for sure. But this is the first MBP that's appropriate for a huge number of professions. For a lot of us, myself included, no previous build has been up to scuff, so we've been relegated to desktop-only for heavy tasks. Finally we might be free to move around easier.
It's kinda like, over time more and more professions can be done on a Macbook, and this is one of the biggest expansions of that circle yet.
And to be quite frank, I'm baffled as to what profession could previously use the MBP, and can't anymore.
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Can someone point me in the direction of fps statistics in a range of games? Honestly, i dont understand geekbench scores and stuff.... just wanna see how well Starcraft can play and at what resolution, settings etc. Along with Overwatch and possibly FFXIV?
Overwatch on desktop RX 460 is averaging 70 FPS in 1080p Ultra preset, with 60 FPS minimum. You have to substract 5-10% of performance for Radeon Pro 460, and more for other GPUs.
Starcraft should be completely playable in 1080p resolution.
This guy tested FFXIV with a 460 Pro.
https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comm...th_a_2016_15_i7_29_460_4gb_512gb_mbp/da1ww6p/
Really not bad for 1200p at max settings. Should be playable with 40-60 fps at medium settings on 1200p.
Apparently you're incapable of understanding the difference between prosumer and professional.
Prosumer - an amateur who purchases equipment with quality or features suitable for professional use.
Let me guess - that describes you?
By gearing a product to the prosumer market, its still capable of professional use but makes some compromises in the process. The keyboard feel is compromised, a pro now has to carry a bunch of dongles, etc. Just so some rich schmucks can take their latest sleek looking toy to Starbucks to show it off.
There. Prosumer. Its still a MacBook Pro(-sumer) which means it has the potential to be so much more if it wasn't built for a less serious audience.
Please show us a "Pro" laptop that satisfies the needs of all professionals simultaneously without compromises.
Seems like you're falling into the trap of thinking this isn't a Pro laptop because it's not meeting your specific definition or wants. If it doesn't, buy something else that does. Plenty of professionals will get their professional work done on this laptop.
Seems like you're falling into the trap of thinking this isn't a Pro laptop because it's not meeting your specific definition or wants. If it doesn't, buy something else that does. Plenty of professionals will get their professional work done on this laptop.
Nnnnope. Heh heh. I was just about to post with my position and salary to make a point, but it's not the kind of thing you put on forums.
Anyways, nah I'm as pro as you wanna get I suppose. Long time industry guy, conceived & executed lotsa big budget projects. Most shoots I've done over the years have had a studio with dedicated people doing the editing, so there's no talk of laptops whatsoever, but for smaller budget projects and personal art projects I occasionally like to get my hands dirty since my early background is in production. So I like to have a machine at home that can handle editing 4K. And this is the first time I'm feeling comfortable taking that practice off the desktop. Because of the GPU, mostly. And the slim design. And, bonus: it's gonna look amazing when I show colleagues works-in-progress on that screen!
Anyways, you're seemingly just trolling. Otherwise you would have said, oh, hey jack, I do 3D rendering of architectural something blabla and the new machine is missing this critical feature I need. Or whatever.
You should either a) identify what profession you're referring to that used to be able to use MBP for what they do and now can't, or b) give up the whole "it's not pro anymore" schtick. It just makes no sense.
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The funny thing is, after the release of this laptop, we suddenly have all the prosumers claiming professionals needs (but the professionals need this and that and that) and when we ask them to name one, there was only silence. I believe the professionals have been suffered for the past decades because a perfect laptop is still not there ehh?? How on earth did professionals get their job done without 32GB RAM and kickarse mGPU. It must have been witchcraft.
I made a comment about Apple needing to put a cooler-running CPU in the Macbook Pro 2016, due to the size decrease, and I got the response: "Shows that you dont know what you're talking about. Apple reduced the GPU from 50W TDP to 35W TDP. they have plenty of room for a slightly warmer CPU."
Seems this forum is infested with users who love to assert themselves baselessly. It's sort of like watching an infant pick the tall thin glass over the short and wide glass, because the tall glass must have more juice in it. Don't worry about the angry people too much, there's an endless supply of them.
That is my big question as well. Seems like it will dominate in video editing, but what about 3d modeling in Revit/CAD/Sketchup?
Have the 2.7GHz with the 460, and decided to install Starcraft to give some quick numbers. I'll probably try WoW tomorrow, but that will be a lot more variable. I'll also note that during all this, the game was still downloading in the background. I'm not trying for a mathematically pure benchmark, just some real world 'I sat down and played Starcraft' sorta numbers. Oh, and running macOS, not Windows.
So, first test: graphics quality set to high, 720p resolution, windowed fullscreen mode, antialiasing on. I was playing the game on the native monitor and driving a second 2560x1440 monitor in which I was browsing the web while playing. Was getting between 40-60fps. Don't think I dropped below 35.. but my eyes weren't glued to counter. Some of the cutscene playback was a little choppy, but gameplay was fine.
Switched to 1920x1200, turned off antialiasing, went pure fullscreen mode, native display only. Getting right around 30fps. Varies between 25-35. Still high quality mode.
Switched again to 2560x1600, dropped graphics to medium, still native display. Was about 35fps. Tried windowed full-screen, and it dropped back down to around 30fps.
For me, 1200p looks great, and dropping to medium settings I can easily get around 40fps. These were the new Ghost Campaign I was playing with settings on. So not like, 40 units on the screen and whatnot. If I remember, tomorrow I'll do a co-op and tell people how it goes.
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OK guys, one thing to keep in mind when you are comparing these 3 GPU's.
They all have the same memory bandwidth (80 Gb/s), so when you are running an app or game that has a memory bandwidth bottleneck, they will benchmark close(r).
They all have the same memory bandwidth (80 Gb/s), so when you are running an app or game that has a memory bandwidth bottleneck, they will benchmark close(r).
A really simple question for you, what in your eyes is a professional user? You do realise the proper definition of a professional compared to an amateur is someone who gets paid for their work! You also do realise that there are numerous industries with a differing set of use case scenarios who will have a different criteria of what a professional is within their sector. Personally for any heavy duty work I wouldn't use a laptop period, too many compromises due to it's form factor. I use a Xeon based workstation at work, a X99 Intel Core i7-6900K 8 Core processor with a GTX 1080 for home use and my Macbook Pro will be for everything in-between. It will be able to handle most of the tasks it needs to and as for the ram usage with the ultra fast SSD's and apple's memory optimisations 16gb will be more than ample even with numerous VM's running! Personally I wouldn't use a generic gaming laptop as an example for a "professional" laptop, it isn't it is built for gaming! I also wouldn't have the temerity to classify who is a professional and who isn't!
User w/ a Pro 460 plays Skyrim in ULTRA settings, 1080p, smoothly
https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comm...th_a_2016_15_i7_29_460_4gb_512gb_mbp/da1yz0z/
https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comm...th_a_2016_15_i7_29_460_4gb_512gb_mbp/da1yz0z/