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Are they going to fix the antenna and not announce it?

fredzrez said:
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Are they going to fix the antenna and not announce it?Are they going to fix the antenna and not announce it?
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The already fixed the antenna problem and didn't announce it.;)

One question OP. How would anyone know if they don't announce it? Sorta like circular logic there. You'd still have peoeple who claim they have singal issues even if they did announce it. Look at the Proximity sensor threads.
 
fredzrez said:
i am just wondering if I should get one now or wait another month or so to see if they fix the phone..
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There will be no "fix." the iPhone 4 they sell on October 1 will be the same one they sell on September 29.


Apple's PR has made that pretty clear, especially when they quote Steve Jobs as saying "We now know that the iPhone 4 antenna attenuation issue is even smaller than we originally thought." And they made it clear they thought it was pretty small to begin with.

in the office where I work the iphone 4 antenna is an issue as I have co workers that get large attenuations of signal strength and dropped calls in our building when holding the phone in the lower left corner, even with the bumper, I could believe it when I saw it, the bumper he had was two pieces plastic and rubber
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If it looks like dropped calls are going to be a problem for you, then don't buy one.

If you buy one and you don't like it, then return it.
 
I have co workers that get large attenuations of signal strength and dropped calls in our building when holding the phone in the lower left corner, even with the bumper
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I'm sorry but I have to call BS on that one. I think you're only seeing that because your office building is blocking the signal. Everything else I won't answer because it's been answered in every other post.
 
fredzrez said:
Hi

i currently do not own a smart phone and was going to purchase a iphone 4 when they came out a few months ago,

the antenna issue caused me to drag my feet and delay the purchase. i still don't have one...

i am just wondering if I should get one now or wait another month or so to see if they fix the phone..

in the office where I work the iphone 4 antenna is an issue as I have co workers that get large attenuations of signal strength and dropped calls in our building when holding the phone in the lower left corner, even with the bumper, I could believe it when I saw it, the bumper he had was two pieces plastic and rubber
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Solution: buy an android phone and quit crying.
 
Been using my phone for about a month now with no case and no bumper. Have had no dropped calls or reduced signal strength simply because I do not cover up the antenna with my hand when talking on the phone. I really doubt that Apple will make any hardware changes to this phone because the issue is not that big of a deal although some want to make it a bigger deal than it really is! :confused:
 
macfanrutler said:
They have to go through the FCC due to regulations on the amount of radiation coming from the phone and where it is in relation to your head.
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Yeah but what if their fix doesn't have to deal with anything in regards to radiation? For example, when they flashed the new bootrom on the new 3GS's, they didn't have to go through FCC regulations to be able to sell it did they?
 
I'm loving my iPhone 4. I use a bumper- primarily because it keeps the glass back off the table when I set it down to avoid scratching... yes there is an attenuation issue that is resolved with the bumper, but it honestly never caused me to drop a call...

It was never a really big deal, it's something that ALL phones deal with (especially 'smart phones') and all the hype was actually a result of a few unfortunate factors:

1) People just started paying attention since they knew the design of putting the antenna around the outside was unique.

2) the design included a small plastic separator which people thought by 'bridging it' with their finger, they were 'mixing' two separate antennas... it's actually the same antenna and the separator on that side was meant really just to make the phone symmetrical since the 'real' separator was on the other side. It also meant it was easy for people to find the "problem area" and replicate the issue themselves.

3) At the iPhone's launch, it was using an algorithm to display bars that was inaccurate... since the bars were not evenly representative of signal strength, any slight attenuation in signal was displayed as a much more dramatic drop then it really was. A software update displays the bars accurately and while attenuation still exists, it's FAR less dramatic. Had the bars been accurate since launch, the issue would likely have gone unnoticed IMO.

4) The sensationalism of the story got the best of the media. "Swanky phone-maker makes phone so swanky, it can't be held when used!!" Given the existing reputation of iPhones dropping calls, the story is just too good to pass up and competitors jumped on board advertising their phones that 'can be held any way you want' before Apple posted videos showing the same, or worse attenuation issues on them as well.

5) To appease critics and concerned users, Apple offers free cases to iPhone 4 owners... to some, this sounds like they're admitting fault.

The reality is that the iPhone carries better reception then it's predecessors and can actually hold a call in lower signal areas then many other phones. Covering the phone with your hand certainly attenuates signal, and for people in low-signal areas to begin with this can be problematic - but it's really no worse then many popular smart-phones.

Get the iPhone 4. It's awesome. Do it before Sept. 30th, get a free case and if you see problems, you can return it without even paying a restocking fee.
 
There is nothing wrong with the antenna

First of all, if people in your office are telling you that they are having the antenna issue with a bumper case on, they are either lying or they do not understand the issue. If the Antenna is covered with rubber or plastic, or almost any other substance, with the exclusion of uncoated metal, it is almost impossible for them to experience the attenuation, that occurs with this particular antenna issue. Perhaps the building is not well covered by At&t, or it is built with such material that little cell service gets inside.

For me, I picked up my iphone4 on launch day, and never experienced any problems including antenna attenuation, and proximity sensors issues. After buying my iphone4, I immediately bought a case and screen cover for it. It is a $600 phone, and even though I got the At&t discount, I wanted it to have protection. I finally watched the utube videos and saw how to make the attenuation on my phone, I took the case off, and made it happen, put the case back on, and could not make it happen.
If for some reason you don't want to cover your $600 iphone, then I think Steve gave you the best advice possible, "Don't hold it that way"
 
Maverick1337 said:
Yeah but what if their fix doesn't have to deal with anything in regards to radiation? For example, when they flashed the new bootrom on the new 3GS's, they didn't have to go through FCC regulations to be able to sell it did they?
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Software is one thing.

Changes to the actual hardware probably have to be reported.
 
Yes, they will.

Apple will also be secretly doubling memory & speed, and secretly adding higher resolution display to the iPhone 4.
 
Are the fanboys still denying the issue too? Just can't stray too far away from steve jobs' message can you?
Anyway, I don't think any fix will be made, though if they do it they won't announce it.
Just go to your coworkers who are experiencing the issue and ask them if the phone is worth it, worth having to deal with the antena issue. Most likely, since they kept the phone, they will say yes, it really is that great of a handset. Get one, but keep all your paper work together and try it out for yourself, the antena issue is real but the phone is so great in every other area that it's worth it.
 
It's fixed but it will never be announced.

Picked up IP4 on Friday. Death grip does not change bars at all. To announce would mean everyone would want a replacement. Most likely thats why it was out of stock.
 
The only fix they need is for at&t to fix their ageing decrepit network.

I got my iP4 almost 3 months ago and haven't had any dropped calls.
 
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Zcott said:
"Death grip" varies wildly from place to place, not so much phone to phone.
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I was in a club last night with some friends, 2 have earlier IP4's we were playing with them. Their bars would drop when you death grip them mine did not. Apple could easily change the formulation on the coating on the metal. I do not think they would have to go to the FCC on that. Our AT&T network her in South Florida is pretty strong. They both are going to try to return the phones and get newer models.
 
fredzrez said:
Hi

i currently do not own a smart phone and was going to purchase a iphone 4 when they came out a few months ago,

the antenna issue caused me to drag my feet and delay the purchase. i still don't have one...
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Smart move.

I would wait until the next generation iPhone is released in 2011. It's likely to be a far better phone than the current model. Considering the term of service agreement with the carrier is 2 years, it's nice to not be stuck with a sub par phone. I have complete confidence that Apple will not repeat the mistakes of the past, and the new model will most probably be a great phone.
 
Zcott said:
"Death grip" varies wildly from place to place, not so much phone to phone.
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not true, my neighbour had an iPhone 4 at launch, i got mine a couple of months ago or so, he can replicate death grip on his, he tried mine in same way, same spot, would not even drop, so there's a hole to your statement........
 
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