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I think you are making this way more complicated than it needs to be. the guy who bought two iPads to resell bought them with his own money and waited in line for them. They are technically his property now and he can do whatever he damn well pleases with them, be it use them, sell them on or even smash them up. Why you are judging this person and his motives for buying this product, I do not know, but I doubt he gives two ***** about what you think and is now $200 up.


Oh, I'll do you one better and guarantee he doesn't give two ***** what I think...not sure how or why that changes anything...

If I am making this too complicated, I believe you're losing sight of the bigger picture...you pro-scalping guys (for a lack of a better word) keep attempting to personalize this...you're right, if this was just one guy reselling two iPads, I probably won't give two **** either...the problem is it isn't just one guy reselling a couple of iPads; it's potentially hundreds of thousands of guys reselling God only knows how many iPads...to me its death by a thousand cuts (creeping normalcy)...of course, if you focus in only on a single cut, it might not seem like a big deal...
 
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I plan on selling my 2nd one I bought. Originally it was for my wife but she's content of keeping her iPad 2. So Im gonna sell it, but if the money isn't right, I'll just return it for a full refund. Both mine are being shipped FEDEX so since I work for them, I will more than like have access to it early. Im gonna post it on CL a day early that I have iPad 3 in-hand and see who wants it early for $$$, if not I will just return it.....But i have a feeling once my wife sees mine, she is gonna wanna keep her new one after all...Stay tuned!

P.S.: OP, $850 is a realistic price he will prob get for that 16GB. Some people have enough money to where they don't care about over paying on prices. Im not saying its the smartest thing but if you have the cash it doesn't matter. For the last 12 years i have been paying $500-$750 for unlocked smartphones, so to me its not unrealistic for an iPad for$850...You should see how much unlocked iPhones go for when they 1st are announced. A 16GB new iPad will sell for $850, of course thats contingent on selling at the right time. The best thing about america is its a free market and the market will determine the price. No one is putting a gun to any buyers head forcing them to pay premium.

Amen!
 
There's going to be plenty of stock ... just maybe not right away. What people who pay a "scalper" are paying for is simply the right to get their unit sooner than if they wait for 2-3 weeks or so to get one directly from Apple.

Currently Ebay seems to be pricing that "impatience premium" (smile) at somwhere between (very approximate, with some outliers) $175-400 dollars, depending on the unit. I see two possible things happening:

1. Lines are shorter tomorrow at the stores because of the pre-ordering and the stores have stock remaining. That should all but negate any aftermarket including ebay and craigslist. After all, why pay more if there are units are the store at MSRP?

2. The stores sell out and, possibly, the Apple shipping dates immediately increase. That's the iPad 2 situation in a nutshell and many people were getting double especially when the shipping dates were out to 4-6 weeks (or was it 6-8 weeks?).

Ebay, right now, is kind of a "futures market" (albeit pretty inefficient) for the new iPads. Since there is currently a premium being paid, the "smart money" seems to believe that there will be not enough supply short term.
 
Cost Benefit Analysis

Richmond, I like your simple analysis. For me, it's a matter of if I can get a 300-400 premium. Then it's worth it for me to sell the two I ordered, then repurchase -- and wait the 3 weeks.

If you had to lay odds, will it be easy to get that 300-400 premium by listing on Craigslist in NYC? That's enough to pay for nearly a year of LTE service...

If it's only 100-200, I'd rather just keep them and enjoy.
 
Now I'm wondering if these are really going to be so difficult to find after tomorrow or going into next week. It sounds like everyone like Target, Best Buy, all the rest, are getting them in stock tomorrow. Is there really any indication at all that these are going to be somewhat rare for in-store purchase outside of using last year as a frame of reference?
 
perhaps there won't be much of a shortage to drive up prices in CL. I see a bunch of 16gb wifi going for $650-$725 mostly...
 
Situation like this always make me lift my eyebrows. Yeah scalping may be not the respectable action you could do as a human being. Everybody love to make some fortune, scalping ain't exactly a criminal action too, I could understand them. But scalping wouldn't exist unless there are enough demands.

And yeah, I really don't understand about the stupid stupid demand part. How could people are willing to pay for Apple's new stuff, or any other new released stuff like new iPad like $900 - $1000 even for basic 16GB WiFi model. And the high end 64GB + LTE could go up to $1400? They're voluntarily accept the price those scalpers offered. WTF??!!

And by that case, most demands come from adult people with money, and have jobs (doesn't necessarily they're wealthy, could be just obsessed and barely have collected enough money and take overnight job to deal with it).

I mean iPad, iPhone, all of those are great product for sure, but why pay A LOT MORE than it should? They say Apple things are not exactly cheap and affordable, .. but now, some people out there even buy iPad much more than Apple would charge you. MUUCCH MORE!! Why :confused:

iPad ain't exactly a scarce, collector or rare items, unless you custom-order it from Stuart Hughes, it's just a normal mass produced electronic gadget. In the next 3 or 4 months new iPad would available in a normal price. What's with "I gotta have it NOW" attitude? They don't go anywhere later, and they'll just stay the same because it's just product. What's so urgent about buying new iPad that you gotta have one today? They're dying if no iPad would come that very day? Some people lost their mind already?

Or that people willing to pay MUCH MORE just to show off friends/familiy that he/she has the latest gen of new iPad at the earliest? Is that it? And 3 months later I could come up with the very same iPad they bought earlier with muucch muucch lower price, the price that Apple would charge me for one.

Suree .. I know how the hype feels, when I was a STUPID TEEN and IMMATURE, I used to have this "gotta have newest/greatest" attitude, I bought a PS3 games in day one, sometime I got it from scalper for a mere collector edition. Now I think back to that. HOW MORON I WAS. wasting money like that while I can wait a bit more, and still get the same item for much appropriate money. In the end, we'll all make it, and the stuff we wanted doesn't go anywhere. It's just YOU that moronically expense money more than it should.

Me being envy? Oh LOL on you then, I can easily afford 30 or 40 64GB iPads with my SPARE MONEY on overscalped price, but why would I give my hard earned money for them? As I said, new iPad doesn't go anywhere, and it doesn't change, if it's changed, it could be even better because there could be some minor revision or updates if I wait a bit longer.
I wouldn't pay more than Apple would charge me, even when I know I'm wealthy enough, but I'm not stupid wealthy man. Maybe I would pay for extra $30 - $40 if someone could deliver it to my home in 3 days instead of normal 2 - 3 weeks. Not a dime more.
 
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