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Are you skipping Skylake if no redesign?

Probably. I'd quite like a smaller laptop next year for university, and if the MBPs aren't resigned I'd probably consider a MacBook instead if Thunderbolt 3 is added.

If neither of the above happen, I'd probably bite on a Skylake 13" rMBP, though more out of necessity than desire. If I currently had a 13" Mac I wouldn't upgrade.
 
What exactly do you guys need in a new design? Who cares if they made it in 2012. And please, we do not need the Macbook Pro any thinner.
 
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My 2010 MBP is running so solid with a fresh install of El Capitan. I was convinced I would need a performance update with sky lake but now I'm not so sure. But if they did a redesign like the MacBook, edge to edge keyboard, 14" MBP with 13" footprint, new colors they might get me to upgrade 1 or 2 gens early.
 
I'm using the first rMBP, mid-2012. My Applecare expires next month. However, it's still going strong. I had the screen replaced for image persistence and that's the only trouble I've had with it. It does everything I need. I can wait. I may just keep using it until it dies.
 
Anyone think Skylake will be a significant upgrade? Thinking of upgrading my 2012 cMBP, but if they're gonna remove ports I might upgrade now rather than later.
 
MauerFan07 said:
Anyone think Skylake will be a significant upgrade? Thinking of upgrading my 2012 cMBP, but if they're gonna remove ports I might upgrade now rather than later.
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Any perceivable speed increase is going to be from the high speed SSDs than anything else, unless you are routinely maxing the CPU.
 
In the last update to unibody designs the Macbook Air was a preview of what to expect with the Macbook Pro. If that stands, the next Macbook Pros should look like larger versions of the Macbook. That means a return to the name under the display, the speakers above the keyboard, an all metal design and maybe color options.

It also means that even though Apple had a year or more to examine the XPS 13 before the release of the Macbook, they still released it with huge bezels as usual, so don't expect a machine the size of the XPS 15 anytime soon.
 
Mr. Wonderful said:
I really hope the redesign happens with Skylake. If it doesn't between Skylake not having a redesign, the lack of 10-bit HEVC hardware decoding, and the rumored new GPU architecture coming with Kaby Lake, it's going to hard to justify upgrading.
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I agree it's unfortunate that Skylake doesn't provide for 10-bit HEVC hardware decoding, but since I would be on mains anyway to play 10-bit HEVC content, I wouldn't mind if the stream was partially decoded via software. I guess it all depends on the additional workload it would place on the processor.

I still believe that Skylake is a worthy upgrade with better battery run times and TB3. As long as Apple doesn't cheap out on the ports, I'll buy. I'm running a Haskell MBPr 13" and it's the best laptop I've ever owned. As long as the new machine has 2 TB3 ports, 2 USB 3.0 (or better) ports and a MagSafe power connector, I'm in.

I don't mind having a dongle for HDMI 2.0a or DisplayPort 1.3. I don't mind bringing a card reader to plug into one of the USB 3.0 ports. But eliminating the MagSafe or eliminating or reducing the number of USB 3.0 ports or only proving one TB3 port and it's no sale.

It would be fantastic if the display could support 10-bit color and HDR but I won't trade my ports for that.
 
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My MBP is mid-2012 and won't buy another one until it supports 32GB RAM. I couldn't care less what it looks like. I care about specs and the OS.

To those considering going to Windows because of more up to date hardware specs, you'll regret it, I've been down that path. It's a mistake. Don't waste your money, wait until Apple releases the new stuff.
 
MauerFan07 said:
Anyone think Skylake will be a significant upgrade? Thinking of upgrading my 2012 cMBP, but if they're gonna remove ports I might upgrade now rather than later.
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No. The overall processing power hasn't gone up dramatically since Sandybridge in 2011. What you will notice is dramatically better battery life and much faster disk speeds even if you already have an SSD.
 
still running strong and solid on a late 2009, 1 SSD. I think I will buy a new mbp if it is a redesign with a major cpu upgrade.
 
Is there any reason why they've been using component miniaturization and power reduction to deliver smaller battery sipping computers, but never upping the core count in a similar sized enclosure?

I know the vast majority doesn't need much more speed, but in the creative industry we totally can make use of it, and I really don't want to have to go back to a desktop (although even iMacs are capped at quad cores)
 
stevemiller said:
I really don't want to have to go back to a desktop (although even iMacs are capped at quad cores)
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Desktops are only better for storage, gaming and rendering. The rest can you find in a Macbook Pro today. Looking at Skylake benchmarks, you will max gain 10-12% in narrow tasks, so in my eyes there is no revolution except for the 45 extra minutes of battery life along with some more juice int he integrated GPU. Weight is of course an issue with the current design, as it sure isn't as comfortable to use on your lap the way an 12" Macbook is.

Skylake alone is not a reason to upgrade. Benchmarks from the desktop versions show maybe 5-6% performance gain on average. A new design may help it achieve greater mobility, still I believe it won't be something as light and subtle as the Macbook 12. I will skip the first generation anyways, as I don't want to depend on adapters in the transition period between new and old technology for computers that I use in production.

Right now there isn't enough progress or gear to live completely off the wire, so please let me have some USB A and display ports.
 
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FingerPrint Reader, and I'm in. I'm lazy and want to log in as easy as possible ;) Better CPU/GPU and its a go as well. Camera improvement would be nice. Nothing else matters to me personnaly
 
doitdada said:
Desktops are only better for storage, gaming and rendering. The rest can you find in a Macbook Pro today. Looking at Skylake benchmarks, you will max gain 10-12% in narrow tasks, so in my eyes there is no revolution except for the 45 extra minutes of battery life along with some more juice int he integrated GPU. Weight is of course an issue with the current design, as it sure isn't as comfortable to use on your lap the way an 12" Macbook is.

Skylake alone is not a reason to upgrade. Benchmarks from the desktop versions show maybe 5-6% performance gain on average. A new design may help it achieve greater mobility, still I believe it won't be something as light and subtle as the Macbook 12. I will skip the first generation anyways, as I don't want to depend on adapters in the transition period between new and old technology for computers that I use in production.

Right now there isn't enough progress or gear to live completely off the wire, so please let me have some USB A and display ports.
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yeah it doesn't feel like there's anything must-have coming down the pipeline right now, especially when i'm currently rocking a 2013 haswell. at very least i'm holding out till they put an nvidia maxwell or better in for cuda rendering from my 3d software package. and even then i'm hesitant, mobile gpu's seem to struggle with being taxed for gpu compute stuff.
 
stevemiller said:
Is there any reason why they've been using component miniaturization and power reduction to deliver smaller battery sipping computers, but never upping the core count in a similar sized enclosure?

I know the vast majority doesn't need much more speed, but in the creative industry we totally can make use of it, and I really don't want to have to go back to a desktop (although even iMacs are capped at quad cores)
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Because for the vast majority of uses, they are more than fast enough and there's no one out there driving them to push for more power. AMD can't come close to the performance they had three years ago, let alone today, so who else are you going to go to? IBM? On the power side, however, ARM is eating their lunch. They are trying to provide a viable alternative to ARM chips in everything, even tablets and phones.
 
stevemiller said:
Is there any reason why they've been using component miniaturization and power reduction to deliver smaller battery sipping computers, but never upping the core count in a similar sized enclosure?

I know the vast majority doesn't need much more speed, but in the creative industry we totally can make use of it, and I really don't want to have to go back to a desktop (although even iMacs are capped at quad cores)
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You do realize that there are 6 and 8 core Intel processors right (Haswell-E series)? It will just take a while for them to be mobile ready.
 
venom600 said:
Because for the vast majority of uses, they are more than fast enough and there's no one out there driving them to push for more power. AMD can't come close to the performance they had three years ago, let alone today, so who else are you going to go to? IBM? On the power side, however, ARM is eating their lunch. They are trying to provide a viable alternative to ARM chips in everything, even tablets and phones.
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ha there's ME pushing for more power! i realize thats sort of the state of things, it just kinda sucks, because arm IS killing it in the low power segment, and rather than intel try too hard to compete on that front, i wish they'd focus more on making 'mid-size trucks' for the various graphical/scientific/statistical/etc applications that can always use more compute power, but for users that don't want to be tethered down to a desktop.

its a pipe dream i know.
 
stevemiller said:
i wish they'd focus more on making 'mid-size trucks' for the various graphical/scientific/statistical/etc applications that can always use more compute power, but for users that don't want to be tethered down to a desktop.

its a pipe dream i know.
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Look, I wish Apple still made a 17" notebook and that the G4 Cube hadn't failed. Intel could do what you're asking, and they'd sell them by the hundreds, maybe even thousands of units. Or they keep doing what they are doing now and move hundreds of millions of Atom processors in phones and tablets.
 
venom600 said:
Look, I wish Apple still made a 17" notebook and that the G4 Cube hadn't failed. Intel could do what you're asking, and they'd sell them by the hundreds, maybe even thousands of units. Or they keep doing what they are doing now and move hundreds of millions of Atom processors in phones and tablets.
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i know economies of scale are the driving factor. and by all means they can continue to make that their primary market, im just hoping they give us a little something! after all, we've got all these great consumption devices, but there also needs to be tools to create the content we consume!

today alone i've bounced between 3d software, after effects and panoramic stitching software, all of which would happily eat up every ounce of processing power i can throw at them! :p
 
Pahanda said:
No, who cares about a redesign? I'm still using my late 2008 MBP. I'm starving for Skylake!
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Amen - me too. I've upped to 4GB and an SSD (all be it capped at SATA2 speeds) and with El Captian it still flies. Only Flash gives it any trouble but hopefully these days are drawing to a close. I was having some issues with Firefox but tracked it down to a dodgy plugin. I will wait for the redesigns to decide whether to go with a 2nd gen rMB or redesigned rMBP. As has been noted, even the 'low power' rMB will seem like a big speed boost to me (the base rMB even crunches through Handbrake encodes at twice the speed of my 2008)
 
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FingerPrint Reader, and I'm in. I'm lazy and want to log in as easy as possible ;) Better CPU/GPU and its a go as well. Camera improvement would be nice. Nothing else matters to me personnaly
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I agree. I would really like to see touchid on the next generation of laptops. Not only for logging into the laptop but for logging into websites and making online purchases.

Also I'd like to see Apple put in a cellular chip with sim. This way when I'm on the road, I have another option other then using someone else's wifi or using a hotspot. Dedicated cellular internet would make security alot better as well as making the overall experience better.
 
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