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ARM Announces Major New Licensee, Is it Apple?
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That was the same idea that I had. Apple might have PA Semi help them create unique chipsets that are only in Apple's computers. This would stop or at least slow down the cloners and Hackintosh people. On the other hand I could be completely wrong and it could be more advanced ARM processors for mobile devices.
You beat me to it. Apple was also a major investor in ARM. I know they sold some of the stock, but I wonder if they've still got a major holding.
Although I believe that this is going to happen, It will take some time for PA semi (Apple) to create this kind of chipset or mobile chips to replace intel chipset in the Mac and other chips in iPod and Iphone...
I'm not an expert, but it would take time to make this new chips work with today's software too...
So, we will have to wait, I guess...
I'm not an expert, but it would take time to make this new chips work with today's software too...
So, we will have to wait, I guess...
I think Apple is pretty confident that the EULAs they have in place are enough to prevent companies like Psystar from producing those products. The home cloners aren't a big enough market to make it really matter. Especially at the cost of 1) acquisition of PA Semi, and 2) licensing the ARM architecture for $1 million (or more).
I'm fairly certain that this is gearing towards mobile platforms.
If they said this (from 9 to 5)
'describing it as a "leading handset OEM", adding "which is developing its roadmap for mobile computing devices." '
yep that sounds like apple... with iphone/touch/itablet
'describing it as a "leading handset OEM", adding "which is developing its roadmap for mobile computing devices." '
yep that sounds like apple... with iphone/touch/itablet
This man speaks truth. In fact, here's a bit more history of the Apple/ARM relationship from Wikipedia:
Apple is no stranger to the ARM architecture, and they're as good a candidate as any to license the architecture again for their own designs.
What about Microsoft?
While it makes sense for us to think that Apple is the OEM, Steve Ballmer said he wanted Microsoft to be more like Apple in the sense that they should control a product end-to-end. Think Microsoft Windows 7 UM(PC)
While it makes sense for us to think that Apple is the OEM, Steve Ballmer said he wanted Microsoft to be more like Apple in the sense that they should control a product end-to-end. Think Microsoft Windows 7 UM(PC)
As far as Acorn/Apple cooperation, don't forget the oddly-fizzled Xemplar team effort from the late '90s. The educational iMac5,2 I'm typing on right now is a vague descendant of that foray.
I have a working Risc PC 600 with its original ARM610, bought ca 1994. While x86/amd64 is something you thank the compiler gods for shielding you from, ARM assembler is readable and sensible (thank you Sophie Wilson!). Meanwhile, even underclocking my Samsung S3C2410X-based HP 50G calculator, an implementation of the ARM920T, I can outpace that desktop box, and am currently having great fun building a toy OS on it. My first ARM-based machine, the Acorn A3000 in 1989, had 512KB RAM; so does the calculator. As any fule kno, 512KB should be almost enough for anybody
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Of course is Apple! SJ has tasted death (like many of us) but regardless he's in a mission to bring us the next generation of 'whatever' and 'whatever' will be better. Somebody has to kick some ass rather than follow and that is Apple's mission. No more, no less. My words may sound like rambling but what SJ wants is to kill the computer as we know it, and thanks God for that! So step by step we are getting there.
kill the mouse, kill the 'verbs' and kill all the rest. Until the sun shines again.
We are talking art, and art is rather abstract. But then again, it can be a bullet straight to your head.
I know who has the finger on the trigger.
kill the mouse, kill the 'verbs' and kill all the rest. Until the sun shines again.
We are talking art, and art is rather abstract. But then again, it can be a bullet straight to your head.
I know who has the finger on the trigger.
If they said this (from 9 to 5)
'describing it as a "leading handset OEM", adding "which is developing its roadmap for mobile computing devices." '
yep that sounds like apple... with iphone/touch/itablet
It could be Nokia, Sony Erricson or Blackberry.
They all have the resources and with existing competition and now Apple nipping at their heals the motivation to make a quantum leap.
To bad they didn't say American OEM, then it would be a lock on Apple
None of those companies design their own chips though do they? Or have chip design experience in house? Apple has and always has.
Thanks, you made me laugh. Apple's EULA, like many other company's EULAs would be thrown out on its AZZ if ever tested in court. Apple is just legally suing Psystar out of business through exorbitant legal costs Psystar obviously can't afford and if that doesn't work, Apple will just buy the company. Apple's EULA will never be tested in court, trust me.
So I purchased this car part in a store and I'm legally not allowed to install it on my car because it's not a FORD ???
Please, stop making me laugh, Apple's EULA would go right down the toilet same way in any court. That's why Steve Jobs will not be stupid enough to test it, but he might be smart enough to make Macs, iPhones, & iPods just enough technically different to prevent more Psystars & iPhone wannabes, yet still have Macs 100% Windows compatible.
LOL!!! "very, very few times" ... I'm sure it's a big deal for arm, but everybody and their mom licenses ARM cores. ARM is practically just IP and has been for *years*. Size and power consumption matters, and everybody wants their own single chip solution -- and as small as possible
Thanks, you made me laugh. Apple's EULA, like many other company's EULAs would be thrown out on its AZZ if ever tested in court. Apple is just legally suing Psystar out of business through exorbitant legal costs Psystar obviously can't afford and if that doesn't work, Apple will just buy the company. Apple's EULA will never be tested in court, trust me.
So I purchased this car part in a store and I'm legally not allowed to install it on my car because it's not a FORD ???
Please, stop making me laugh, Apple's EULA would go right down the toilet same way in any court. That's why Steve Jobs will not be stupid enough to test it, but he might be smart enough to make Macs, iPhones, & iPods just enough technically different to prevent more Psystars & iPhone wannabes, yet still have Macs 100% Windows compatible.
So far EULAs stood up in US courts quite well. And Psystar is no "End User". Please use a bit of common sense: If money can be made by building and selling MacOS X compatible computers, and the only reason not to do so is the cost of a lawsuit which as you prodict Apple would lose, why isn't Dell selling MacOS X compatible computers? Is it because management at Dell is sleeping, or is it because Dell's lawyers know something that you don't know?
It's probably Apple, but it could be Microsoft too.
AMD…
Open source OS that should work on as many devices as possible; not likely they would develop a proprietary solution.
Gee, I wonder who dropped the dime?
AMD…
Open source OS that should work on as many devices as possible; not likely they would develop a proprietary solution.
The Google Android project isn't exactly 100% open source. Parts of the SDK are presently proprietary and closed source although (maybe, sometime in the future) "most" of the components may be released by Google under the Apache license.
To quote Google: "Once the SDK reaches a more finished form, Google intends to release most of the components under the Apache v2.0 open source license."
Although Nokia, SE and RIM have the resources, they have to my knowledge no experience of chip design. Apple, however, has a wealth of experience and has successfully deployed their designs.
If it turns out not to be Apple, the only other OEM that springs to mind in this sector is Samsung, as they have the knowledge and experience of designing and fabrication, much like Apple.
The article points out that any manufacturer has the ability to custom design ARM chips, but very few licenses have been issued over the years. That in itself leads me to believe that it has to be Apple- nobody else has really shown the desire to custom make chips for their products.
Nokia, for instance, are far too large a company to be messing around with chip design when what's out there serves them well already. There's no competitive advantage for them and likely they would have difficulty fabricating enough chips for their needs if they did. Before anybody starts, below is a perfect illustration of exactly why Nokia would run into difficulty.
In 2006 Nokia, in its 10 worldwide factories, handled over 100 billion parts. To put that into perspective, daily around the globe their factories handled something like 275 million parts and churned out 900,000 mobiles at the end of the line. Every single day of the year to manufacture a staggering 328 million mobiles.
I think they sold it all off when they were in financial trouble.
Acorn and Apple had amazing foresight in developing the ultra low power processor for the Newton. Its great to see the technology being used to its fullest now.
ARMs current cores for licensees include the 4 core Cortex A9 design. It uses 250mw and gives an incredible performance.
The power efficiency of A9 ARM is 8 to 16x at a given power consumption compared to the Atom. That is a massive difference.
Think Grand Central (also in Snow Leopard) coming to ARM and iPhone OS X 3.0
Multiple ARM cores will enable the Objective C 2.0 garbage collector to be used as it runs on a second thread.
The PowerVR graphics core from Imagination has a similar power efficiency lead over its rivals.
OpenCL (also in Snow Leopard) is coming to the PowerVR. Imagination is a member of the OpenCL group.
Think OpenCL coming to iPhone OS X 3.0
The kernels are now in sync between OS X and iPhone OS X. Xcode is used for developing both.