Arrggh!! 1.67GHz PB vs 2GHz Black MacBook!

[CRAZYBUBBA]

As a powerbook fan, I LOVE your description

wrong on that one, the intel line runs software which is literally "universal" the PowerBook will run them as readily as the MacBook.

I was faced with a similar decision a while back, and decided to take the refurb PowerBook for 1349.99 over a CD MacBook.

Bear in mind that these are simply opinions based on my hands-on experience with these products. again, YOU ARE NOT REQUIRED TO READ ANY OF THIS!

Neither:
-support 64 bit architecture.
-offer impressive gaming capabilities.

PowerBook: (perfectly capable machine despite what anyone tells you)
-perfect display for watching DVD video and editing all forms of media.
-better case design and MUCH lower case temperature.
-speakers provide the best sound quality on the market.
-backlit keys are just sexy/keyboard is more comfortable to use.
-Firewire 800.
-wireless reception is ****.
-capable of running 7200rpm HDD.
-runs Adobe CS2 and Macromedia Studio 8 like a beast.

MacBook CD: (I stand by my decision not to purchase this system)
-worst modern display I've seen (not claiming to have seen them all) for that price range, though very bright.
-weak camera that you'll never use, unless you happen to be a webcam girl. (yes I realize it was developed for video conferencing )
-can only support 5400rpm HDD or lower, which is lame.
-keys are not backlit, keyboard could be described as "usable."
-capable of running windows xp. *gags*
-capable of running windows vista...kinda
-speakers are nothing to fuss about, placement is a bit strange as well.
-WILL run hotter than your average laptop.
-larger trackpad surface, which could be considered an improvement in some loose sense of the term.
-magsafe is a novel idea.
-no worthwhile Firewire ports.
-remote is useless for a laptop of this size, when will you ever watch a movie from more than arms length of this computer?
-wireless reception is above par.
-case feels flimsy and you could practically use the edges near your wrists to commit suicide.
-doesn't perform well in CS2 or Studio 8.
-performance in CS3 will rival that of the PowerBook in CS2.

MacBook C2D: (At a similar price, you'd be an idiot not to purchase one)
-supports 64 bit architecture
-disregard any negative comments (regarding performance) above.
-wireless reception is unreal.
-case seems sturdier.
-WILL run cooler than your average laptop.
-very capable of running windows vista.
-most other negative comments still stand.

 

[McKs]

As a powerbook fan, I LOVE your description

I'd never buy a MacBook in its current state on general principle. I've accepted mediocre components from Apple in the past, like the FX5200 in my my 12" 1.33 PowerBook, but rock-bottom stuff like Intel integrated graphics is not acceptable to me in what is an otherwise pretty high quality machine.
Having said that, the performance difference between the Intels and G4 chips is enormous. Someone mentioned CS3 on the first gen MacBook would be comparable to performance of a PowerBook 1.67 in CS2. I don't know where that info came from, but in reality, any MacBook will run circles around the PowerBook without even breaking sweat:

Retouchartist PhotoShop benchmark action
Powerbook PPC G4 1,67/1.5GB/75GB/CS2 : 5m5s

Macbook C2D Intel 2.0/2GB/120GB/CS3b : 1m1s

original Macbook CD Intel 2.0/2GB/100GB 5400rpm/CS2 : 3m10s

taken from: http://www.retouchartists.com/pages/results.html

The 12" might still be a good choice if you need the ultimate in portability. In regards to all other PowerBooks, imo, you'd be far better off saving a little more for a refurbished MBP.

 

[SkyBell]

The blackbook would be my choice. Because it is newer. That is it. It is the newest therefore I would buy it.

I'm sorry, but that has to be the STUPIDEST reason I've ever heard.

However, I have to vote MB, just because I like them over PB's.

Now, between iBook and MB, that's a tougher choice.

 

[SkyBell]

Well, I've always been one to argue when I think I'm right...

This thread is like a big joke... Do some of you really believe that a 1.67GHz single core G4 will beat a 2GHz dual core Core Duo?

Maybe not in some places, but obviously it will in PPC-only apps.

Who'd choose the G4 except the most rabid of PPC fanboys?

Maybe someone who doesn't need the latest or the fastest computer. Maybe someone who wants to to PPC-only stuff and many other thing's G4's are capable of on the go.

I hope you're not having any delusions that the G4 will come anywhere close to the C2D machine

He has obviously said he knows it will be slower.

The slower graphics in the Mac Book will probably have zero impact on all of your applications

Wrong, graphics are very important to a lot of people, and this could have a significant impact on what he does.

In which case the G4 basically sucks compared to the C2D.

I don't think you are getting the point. The MB is NOT supposed to be a pro machine. The PB is, regardless of processor.