Ars Technica iPad Pro review

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  1. haruhiko macrumors 68040

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    Happy to see the battery life improvements. My Air 1 was able to hold up a charge for 3-4 days with light use. The Air 2 has only about 70-80% of that battery life.
     
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    How so?
     
  4. masotime macrumors 68000

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    To be fair, the Ars Technica article did address this point, although not as exaggerated as "really hurts".

    I think it's a pretty balanced analysis, and I wouldn't lose sleep over it. I still consider it an iPad Air 3, not an iPad Pro 9.7".
     
  5. Wackery macrumors 6502a

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    look at the benchmarks, the 9.7 could easily be the best, but apple just has to fracture the line up
     
  6. JohnnyGo thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    And the benchmarks are insane ! Benchs better than the new MacBook and runs bett than my MacBook Air 2013.

    As expected Apple is delivering much better horsepower than intel and given the low power requirements it's quite a technological achievement in terms of power/watt yields
     
  7. rui no onna, Mar 29, 2016
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    Quite likely, it's not the amount of RAM that's affecting the benchmarks but the memory subsystem speed.

    Reasonable assumptions based on benchmarks and known data on A9 and A9X:
    6s: A9, 2GB DDR4, single channel, 64-bit mem bus
    Air 2: A8X, 2GB DDR3, single channel, 128-bit mem bus
    Pro 9.7: A9X, 2GB DDR4, single channel, 128-bit mem bus
    Pro 12.9: A9X, 4GB (2x2GB) DDR4, dual channel, 128-bit mem bus

    Lack of RAM wouldn't be much of an issue if iOS implemented a storage-backed paging system/virtual RAM like we have on full desktop OSes. Shouldn't be a problem for those with 64-256GB. Might be an issue for those with 16G-32GB, though.
     
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    Your ego perhaps. Because it doesn't hurt anywhere else...
     
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    There is something else going on that we probably won't find until they do a scan of the chipset. It's either a single-vs-dual channel difference, DDR3 vs DDR4 or 64-bit vs 128-bit going on between the two iPP sizes.

    For most people it won't mean a damn thing though and the 2GB vs 4GB is causing more heartburn than it should.
     
  10. stylinexpat macrumors 6502a

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    I was really hoping for 4GB of RAM. Really had my hopes up for 4GB of RAM :(
    What would be awesome is an iPad Mini with these specs :D
     
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    I was hoping for 16GB of RAM and 1TB storage. It might take a few years, but we'll get there...
     
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    Ya know what's crazy. Someday we actually will be there
     
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    Problem is I can see Pro Apps from Developers using 4GB RAM on the iPad Pro and somehow those Pro Apps won't run on the other iPad Pro
     
  14. stulaw11 macrumors 65816

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    Pretty much. The next "gate" that everyone is riled up about and people forget after 3-4 months and move on with their lives.

    Ridiculous to be riled up about. If no benchmark program existed such that no one knew the amount of RAM to begin with, and you actually used the device, no one would have ever noticed the difference. They only notice the difference now artificially being told its 2gb and complaining before the device is even in their hands.

    Just the next thing to complain about.
     
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    Not likely. Most developers will develop for devices with even less than 2 GB of RAM.
     
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    "Really hurts" An operating system designed to run at a reasonable performance level on 512meg of ram really hurts with 2GB?

    Slight exaggeration surely?

    As someone who monitors memory usage closely when developing apps, I've not seen anything to deem 2GB of memory for iOS to be a disadvantage.
     
  17. stulaw11 macrumors 65816

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    I agree with the response, and I think more likely the devs will adjust their apps accordingly now knowing that the 9.7 is 2gb.

    They are not going to alienate potential purchasers as the majority of the "pro" user base will be 9.7 IPP (well over 50%); just how it works as the big device is more a niche product still compared to overall sales/sizes.
     
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    Let us know when that happens. If it happens.

    If my granny had wheels, she'd be a wagon. I'll keep you posted.
     
  19. Wackery macrumors 6502a

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    So much shortsightedness, you all sound like people from the 90s saying all youneed is 1 megabyte of memory for the rest of your life
     
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    Hardly, once you realise how ruthlessly efficient iOS is with memory, it's not so much of a concern.

    It still runs iOS 9 on a 5 year old iPad with 512meg of RAM. 2GB will last a good while. Certainly to the point where you decide its upgrade time.
     
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    The article that the OP linked actually answered that. The author acknowledges that it doesn't matter right now and that performance will be great. The issue is that a 2GB RAM device will need to be upgraded sooner than one using 4GB. Although iOS is designed to run at lower RAM levels -- not all apps that run on iOS do. Less RAM eventually means less value.

    My underpowered iPad 3 proved that point to me and Apple emphasized it by replacing that model with an early off cycle upgrade. I think the larger iPad Pro is currently the better value and will have more longevity.
     
  22. stulaw11 macrumors 65816

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    Rest of your life? You sund like you just are cheap and dont want to buy a new device every 2-3 years

    Apple has NO duty to you to future-proof your device ANY number of years. Don't like their policies? buy another tablet brand; it's your money to spend. But let's see you run say Android 3 years from now on 3 year old hardware- good luck with that if you are even on the newest OS come then.
     
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    Even new android devices don't run the latest version of android
     
  24. stulaw11 macrumors 65816

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    Oh I agree. The RAM complainers, for people who haven't even use the device yet while trying to predict 2-3 years from now, are baffling at best. It's just getting really old now.
     

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