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I dont find the trackpad uncomfortable of annoying. the one button makes clicking easier. I just point and click
 
I would definitely still go with the Unibody. It is a much better design than the classic, the keyboard is better, the trackpad is better, the battery life is better, everything is better (except for the glossy screen, but it isnt THAT bad).
 
unibody too....i have the last classic Penryn MBP and am getting close to the one-year mark....I think I may just chance not getting applecare in order to save a couple hundred bucks in this economy....

The new one doesn't seem have to the navdia time-bomb issue...
 
Unibody. I've come from a PowerBook 15" and a black CD MacBook.

1) The solid body with no flexing.
2) Smoother design (no plastic edging)
3) Better specs (DDR3, 9600 512MB)
4) Keyboard. Much prefer the MacBook style chiclet.
5) Coolest laptop yet. 43C is blimming great.
6) Magnetic latch.
7) Fantastic build quality.

My only issue is the screen. I don't mind gloss as matte diffuses light too much, but it is a bit too reflective with the glass sheet. I'd like to see a matted glass cover. That said, I've not come across an instance where I was unable to use the laptop.
 
15" Classic, for the following reasons:

  1. matte screen
  2. dual-link dvi instead of mini-displayport.
  3. No HDCP (will play iTunes movies on any screen I want)
  4. matte screen
  5. better battery life
  6. did I mention the lack of glare from the matte screen?
 
Well, don't. If you use it for a long time, it is not comfortable at all: you don't know where to rest your thumb. If you put it on the bottom part (as I do), sometimes (= too often) the cursor doesn't do what you would like. If you are used to click with the button then you get some serious ache to your thumb: it's stiff.

From my point of view, the unibody is full of bad ideas, ideas that look good but that are a nightmare in terms of usability: glass, trackpad, weak lid...

the trackpad is awesome in my opinion, it did take a while to get used to though. And i agree that sometimes you position your thumb in the wrong place on ti and it does affect it, but i seem to be subconsciously more aware of it now, and i rarely do it.
 
Unibody, without a doubt. I had the classic before and it just doesn't compare. Glare doesn't bother me, the classic was glossy as well.
 
Well, don't. If you use it for a long time, it is not comfortable at all: you don't know where to rest your thumb. If you put it on the bottom part (as I do), sometimes (= too often) the cursor doesn't do what you would like. If you are used to click with the button then you get some serious ache to your thumb: it's stiff.

From my point of view, the unibody is full of bad ideas, ideas that look good but that are a nightmare in terms of usability: glass, trackpad, weak lid...

Thats obviously just you, I use my new macbook for a few hours straight a day and never get aches or pains. After upgrading to a new unibody macbook pro I cant see how Id ever go back to using a standard trackpad, its the best thing ever. I do like the screen better than my old macbook pro, it seems alot brighter and better colours.
 
Classic 15"
Unibody 17"

The Classic 15" (I think) is an great machine. Everything seems to match and it has a matte screen. It is an incredible machine. I have the glossy screens on the Unibody and the big ol' black bezel and black keys. It looks hideous.

The Unibody 17" (I think) is the best 17" Apple has made. If I had money to spend, I would get a Unibody 17", incredible machine!
 
Thats obviously just you, I use my new macbook for a few hours straight a day and never get aches or pains. After upgrading to a new unibody macbook pro I cant see how Id ever go back to using a standard trackpad, its the best thing ever. I do like the screen better than my old macbook pro, it seems alot brighter and better colours.

Obviously it's not just me. And obviously there are a lot of people who love it.

But it obviously has some ergonomics features that can affect usability for some. Like me, I don't love to use tap to click (it's not precise) and I can assure you that after some clicks my thumb obviously aches.

Obviously it's loud and I cannot use it if I work in the same room with my girlfriend reading/sleeping (I am sure there is at least one zealot with a strong desire of suggesting that when you are in the same room with your girlfriend you should do something else...).

And frankly I cannot understand why you couldn't ever use again an old-style trackpad. What's the reason?
 
Obviously it's not just me. And obviously there are a lot of people who love it.

But it obviously has some ergonomics features that can affect usability for some. Like me, I don't love to use tap to click (it's not precise) and I can assure you that after some clicks my thumb obviously aches.

Obviously it's loud and I cannot use it if I work in the same room with my girlfriend reading/sleeping (I am sure there is at least one zealot with a strong desire of suggesting that when you are in the same room with your girlfriend you should do something else...).

And frankly I cannot understand why you couldn't ever use again an old-style trackpad. What's the reason?

Simply put, its too small and feels weird to use. I cant see why you cant use tap to click, if you ever have to do precision work I wouldnt recommend using a touch pad at all. After that then tap to click is precise enough for anything thing else you would like to do in bed while your girlfriend is sleeping.

Also I heard (not too sure) that there is a screw you can tighten under the battery that tightens the pad so you dont need to press down as hard for it to click....
 
Definitely the Classic. I like the feel of the keys and it seems easier to type faster and fewer mistakes, plus it's got spunk to the keys or a nice rebound or response to depressing each key. I like the matte screen v. the unibody glossy screen, 110% more. I like the Classic b/c of the ports on each side of the MBP and like the DVD/CD port below the spacebar...:cool:
 
unibody too....i have the last classic Penryn MBP and am getting close to the one-year mark....I think I may just chance not getting applecare in order to save a couple hundred bucks in this economy....

The new one doesn't seem have to the navdia time-bomb issue...

Um, surely you should GET the AppleCare so you can save money in this economy. If it breaks after a year not only would you need to give up your spot in the queue at the soup kitchen but you'd be out a few thousand for a new machine.
 
Simply put, its too small and feels weird to use. I cant see why you cant use tap to click, if you ever have to do precision work I wouldnt recommend using a touch pad at all. After that then tap to click is precise enough for anything thing else you would like to do in bed while your girlfriend is sleeping.

Also I heard (not too sure) that there is a screw you can tighten under the battery that tightens the pad so you dont need to press down as hard for it to click....

The MacbookAir is as large as the new one and has a button, I still don't understand why you cannot use standard trackpads. I tightened the screw, but, besides some weird noises it makes when loosened, it must be stiff enough, otherwise you are always pressing it.

The trackpad is fine for precise work, I used it for picture processing when it had a button. Also my photography teacher used it. But it must have a button. Obviously it's not the best system, but it works (I also have a mouse and a tablet).

Noise: the problem is not to stay in the same bed and use the computer. The problem is staying in the same room because the noise is high.

Ok, anyway, I think we are OT.

thistle
 
Unibody; my classic machine's chassis kept warping and bending out of shape despite the fact that I took care of the computer.

I've discovered that loose screws in the sub-frame is one of the main culprits in causing the bottom case to twist and bend.

Though I'm still Happy to own the original and more classic MBP17 & 15 (yeah i have both), mostly because the Pro keyboard feels just much better!! And being able to change the battery at will, is a major plus too!:D Besides... Glass trackpad? Sounds like that'll be the first thing I'd crack!


.... do you think it'll still suffer from Display Corruption?
(Unibody connected to external display via DVI connection) http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=b2O7v84hYPY
 
Refurbished plastic Macbook 2.4 (less than 1000 Euro) or unibody Macbook Pro 2.8 (around 2300 Euro in Germany) are the two options that make most sense.
 
I like my Unibody Macbook Pro quite a bit. It is fast and very well built. Would I prefer a matte screen? Sure. I intended to buy one, but I'm not all that broken up about it.

There is nothing wrong with the "Classic" models (other than the known issues), but I prefer the unibody. ;)
 
If I knew then what I know now, I would have gone with a classic (matte) machine, as:

1. the unibody screens are too glossy for my taste, and
2. the older machines seem more tough.

Let me explain point 2 a little bit.

Plainly, the unibody machines are stronger, much more rigidly built and feel like a tank in comparison to the older MBPs. But the thing is, because of how rigid they are and the glass all over (screen, trackpad), I tend to baby my unibody MBP a lot more than my older one because I'm certain if it sustains even the slightest fall (a mishap opening my backpack or something), the glass will feel the shock and it will crack.

On the other hand, my older MBP has sustained several bumps and small falls through (ab)use over the years, and while its case has the dings and scratches to prove it, it did the right thing. It deformed and absorbed the shock, and the machine still behaves like it did when new---and it's 3 years old.
 
Unibody

1. No warping
2. No latches
3. Higher quality display
4. Trackpad
5. Better keyboard
6. Faster
7. Far better build quality
8. 8 hour battery life (on the 17")
9. Looks nicer
10. Superior video connector
11. Runs cooler
 
I bought a Classic. To have FW 400 AND 800 ports.
I know I can get a cable to use the 800 port, but as I mainly use my machine for video editing it´s very convenient to be able to connect anything anywhere without having to remember a adaptor cable all the time. I also very often have 2 FW products attached.
The classic just makes my life easier right now
 
The unibody. The glass trackpad is SOOOO smooth. I was using my old Macbook last night (trying to get it ready to sell- it is only a year old) and the trackpad on it (and my friend's classic macbook pro) seems sticky and lethargic.

The new unibody seems just so much more comfortable to use. I love it!

(I purchased on Friday the 15in 2.4).
 
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