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Ashes 2009
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Well done England Comes the Hour Comes the Man!
Who would have thought Broad would be the one though. Before the match a lot of "pundits" were ready to write him off.
Tell you what though with Trott in the team earlier England may have added a few more centuries to their tally.
At least try and be a bit gracious in defeat even Ponting managed it, albeit through bloodied and gnashed teeth.
The series was even before the Oval, 1-1.
Both teams had their chances and it was England who grabbed theirs with both hands.
Does this Ashes win rank up there with the euphoric win of 2005? Probably not and I do hope we're spared the drunken open-bus parade. Times have changed and the public mood isn't what it was.
Hang about England are off touring South Africa starting September hummmmm. Maybe we should get in some celebrating while we can!
Who would have thought Broad would be the one though. Before the match a lot of "pundits" were ready to write him off.
Tell you what though with Trott in the team earlier England may have added a few more centuries to their tally.
At least try and be a bit gracious in defeat even Ponting managed it, albeit through bloodied and gnashed teeth.
The series was even before the Oval, 1-1.
Both teams had their chances and it was England who grabbed theirs with both hands.
Does this Ashes win rank up there with the euphoric win of 2005? Probably not and I do hope we're spared the drunken open-bus parade. Times have changed and the public mood isn't what it was.
Hang about England are off touring South Africa starting September hummmmm. Maybe we should get in some celebrating while we can!
Just grab a couple of South Africans lots of them floating about. They do wonders for a team
maybe i dont want to
both team didnt really have their chances if you think about it. the deteriorating wicket basically gave it to you. broad was the right bowler for that wicket and that gave you the advantage because you batted first.
its rather frustrating when the win is there for the taking, but you just cant perform the tasks. physically you are there but mentally things just dont always work out. that will come with experience and in 5 years we will be fighting fit again
Just grab a couple of South Africans lots of them floating about. They do wonders for a team
is that even allowed lol?
hopefully it doesn't go to their heads after receiving a OBE (or was it CBE? never remember) after winning the 2005 ashes series..
Fair enough!maybe i dont want to
I quite understand!I should think if Ricky wants to stay captain he should take some lessons in tossing… a coin I mean.
He lost what… 4 out of 5 coin spins? The last one really was fatal.Looking forward to that. One thing I did not enjoy in this series was a miss-firing Australian team. Nothing came together — apart from Headingley…that will come with experience and in 5 years we will be fighting fit again
Apparently… England has 3 of them.
That is my concern as well. All too easy for England to sit back and rest on those laurels…
Fair enough!
i dont like losing lol, especially to you lot! you have a knack of "rubbing it in ones face".some you lose, others you lose. either way you lose, well Ricky does anywayI should think if Ricky wants to stay captain he should take some lessons in tossing… a coin I mean.
Ponting is a great batter and fielder when he has his mind set on it, but since he has been captain everything else has gone down hill.. especially his fielding! i remember when we used to run out 2/3 wickets per innings (where is symonds when you need him?), now its just the usual methods (caught, bowled etc).
nah a lot of our batters didnt perform, same with the bowlers. where are the Haydens and Beavans and Waugh's, Tailors etc? nowhere..
Apparently… England has 3 of them.
i didnt know that! thats not really fair!! cheaters! 
I think your batters did perform, your 8 100+ to our 2. All the way down your lineup you had good scores. You had two shockingly bad innings (Lords and Oval) and that's what lost it for you. We were able to take advantage of those two bad innings and turn them in to wins. You did it once at Leeds.
Don't think you can go blaming the wicket at the Oval though. We had to bat on it twice too. It was (once again) that middle order collapse that did it.
But just to make you feel a little better about things... We are England, we'll see you in 18 months time and be there ready for a smacking.
Don't think you can go blaming the wicket at the Oval though. We had to bat on it twice too. It was (once again) that middle order collapse that did it.
But just to make you feel a little better about things... We are England, we'll see you in 18 months time and be there ready for a smacking.
inconsistency is the main problem yup, i dont get why we are using players that are good - we should be chasing those that are great. but i guess that is all we have for the time being.
the wicket pretty much decides who wins or loses! the wicket that your greenskeeper presented the players with was a pretty big insult, i dont know what went wrong but i would have been extremely angry to play on that. even over here in australia at my local ground we can prepare wickets that would be of higher standard - or maybe he was made to prepare it like that?
the wicket pretty much decides who wins or loses! the wicket that your greenskeeper presented the players with was a pretty big insult, i dont know what went wrong but i would have been extremely angry to play on that. even over here in australia at my local ground we can prepare wickets that would be of higher standard - or maybe he was made to prepare it like that?
[thoroughly cluessless about cricket]
ZOMG, we actually won!? ...at cricket!? ...against the Aussies!?
ZOMG, we actually won!? ...at cricket!? ...against the Aussies!?
inconsistency is the main problem yup, i dont get why we are using players that are good - we should be chasing those that are great. but i guess that is all we have for the time being.
the wicket pretty much decides who wins or loses! the wicket that your greenskeeper presented the players with was a pretty big insult, i dont know what went wrong but i would have been extremely angry to play on that. even over here in australia at my local ground we can prepare wickets that would be of higher standard - or maybe he was made to prepare it like that?
I agree about the wicket. It was crap. Not suitable for an international test match — much less the final decider of the Ashes… In their haste to prepare a "result" wicket the groundsmen screwed it up. Luckily for them the coin fell right for England.
However I would not see any conspiracy in that, because as strategies go that is one hell of a risky one. What if Ponting had decided to play Hauritz — then that patchy, crumbly wicket could have played against England.
Here's a link to the post match interview with Ponting. He admits that "we picked the wrong side".
Anyway. Now that we've had the main course (test series) I look forward to the dessert… the One Day series and Twenty20s…
ZOMG, we actually won!? ...at cricket!? ...against the Aussies!?
But you'll be pleased to know it still wasn't an easy victory… it never is. Hard life being an England supporter.
ahwell these things happen i guess you cant do much about it.. but -you did have another 30 pitches to pick from LOL! (opposed to our 3 max on our grounds). i donno why we didnt play Hauritz, but TBH he isnt that special.. doesnt get much turn, doesnt deviate too much..
i dont know what they were thinking..
i think at this current point the aussie team is much better suited for one-dayers (and unfortunatey 20-20s). we can score at high rates, but not keep our wickets that well, for the moment. it will be interesting to see how your ponies handle the pressure of having to score fast
looked pretty easy from my point of view! we seemed to give it away to you lol!
But you'll be pleased to know it still wasn't an easy victory it never is. Hard life being an England supporter.
on another note: what does everybody think of 20-20's?
I'll post the series stats later on, interesting reading, shows just how close this really was.