Associated Press Announces Plans for iPad Application

I still can't decide whether it's better for all these newspaper and magazine publishers to create their own apps and formats, or if it'd be a better experience for Apple to enforce a standard, unified format and run everything through iTunes. I can see it being a kind of fragmented, messy experience with a lot of different apps, unique UIs for each piece of content, maintaining different accounts with each provider, etc.

A standard, in my opinion would be too rigid. I think the right term are guidelines along with the already preset review process. If you are going to charge for content than you need the creative freedom to compete. My guess is that while at the begining you will find lots of variation over time natural selection will identify a model that works.
 
I'm all for content providers trying out the subscription model (NYT, AP, WSJ, etc)... If people are looking for a replacement for newspapers, they may actually pay for it. I have no doubt people will pay for magazine subscriptions on the iPad.

Personally, I'll still use CNN or other free websites / apps for my news. Or I'll use aggregators (Fark.com, for example)... I'd imagine it will be 100:1 free -vs- paid, but content organizations deserve to get paid (be it through subscriptions or advertising).

We'll see how this plays out.

Waiting to see as well.

Have no issue with subscriptions as long as they are priced well (taking in to account the lack of the expense and shipping the printed editions). And that they give me the look and "feel" of the printed publications.

Something along the line of the Sports Illustrated mock-up that was on the web not too long ago. Love the idea of seeing the Washington Post on an iPad with an edition that looks just like their printed edition. Scan the headlines and photos and go in for a closer look at what I want to read.

One thing I miss from online editions seriously is missing ads from all sorts of merchants. Just wonder how newspapers will handle the Sunday editions with the four color inserts?

I still can't decide whether it's better for all these newspaper and magazine publishers to create their own apps and formats, or if it'd be a better experience for Apple to enforce a standard, unified format and run everything through iTunes. I can see it being a kind of fragmented, messy experience with a lot of different apps, unique UIs for each piece of content, maintaining different accounts with each provider, etc.

Hear you there. Would be nicer to have maybe a newspaper and magazine links in the iBooks app. But not sure if publishers are ready to invest in a unified for an "untested" product like the iPad.

Think that may come later down the road.

I live your sign-off. Absolutely! Get outside and see the view. Many would be surprised these days! I go outside all the time and shoot photos.

You are true. I guess there is a tradeoff between a common GUI that presents a user experience that is similar and the variability that an uncommon GUI provides to the publisher. That is a hard one.

Overall. I would vote for uncommon GUIs at the discretion of the company/organization. If I don't like one, I'll move to another! ;)

Uncharted territory here sadly. Other than ePub for books - it appears to me that Apple did not have a framework that newspapers and magazines could follow for content creation. And not that publishers would have followed it much any way - unless it was easy to port over to non-iPad readers.

This is probably the most disappointing part of the iPad announcement.

I assumed they would have a magazine/print app like they do for books, that newspapers and magazines could easily use to format and provide their content.

That each publisher will have to make their own app seems to make it much less useful. If they did have a centralized mechanism to publish and display newspapers and magazines I think you would see everyone jumping on board, and new publications coming into existance to take advantage of it.

As it is, seems like a lot of independent work to put out a lot of inferior products. Seems like a mistake on Apple's part.

Great minds think alike it seems.
 
Sort of an off topic post....

The thing I am looking forward to with the iPad is having rich media content from the printed books like what was shown with the Ted Kennedy book. Perfect for some of the books I buy about photography.

I want that same look and "feel" for newspapers and magazines that I might subscribe to down the road.

Love some of the UK photo magazines over the US ones; but between time delays of shipping the printed edition to my local bookstore and the currency conversion costs - I rely on hand-me downs months later with articles cut out.

Saying that I wonder how the iPad will play in the EU with magazines being a bit larger in size than here in the US. Not sure if the aspect ratios are the same.
 
So Apple's actually accelerating the upcoming paywall w/ their iPad device.

So Apple wins. The newsources -- now paynews -- win. Who loses here? Those who enjoy Google News. As much as people like to say "you can't put the genie back in in the bottle", Apple sure is helping try.

Thanks, Apple. You really know how to offer products people want that better benefit their lives.

So we just tack on the $30/month for the New York Times that also takes stories for the AP. And if I were to also pay for the AP paynews, I'll be getting something different that's worthy? No. More duplication.

Thanks, Apple. :D
 
It appears likely that the application will require a paid subscription as the new organization continues its attempts to monetize mobile distribution of its content, although an AP executive suggested that it may appear as a free application at first.

Right, ha ha. Rotsa ruck with that!

Who would pay a sub to read the AP's drivel? The Guardian mobile app brings intelligent journalism to you for a pittance.
 
So we just tack on the $30/month for the New York Times that also takes stories for the AP. And if I were to also pay for the AP paynews, I'll be getting something different that's worthy? No. More duplication.

Thanks, Apple. :D

Doubt that it would be that high based on what is offered by Amazon with some newspapers.
 
I'm starting to wonder whether a good number of iPad users will be able to buy their iPad at company expense because of apps that give them portable access to content that is of value for their job.
 
Hmmm...sounds like it's time for a whole new industry. Sorta like Dish Network for mobile devices.....our bronze package is only $29.99 a month gets you these 30 most popular subscription services....the silver has 50, and so on, and so on...pay a flat fee for a collection of popular content.

Just like satellite and cable TV.

Just now....it's a new device to consume the content you're pushing.
 
Paid subscription? No thanks.

It's not for you. It's for the people who already subscribe to tons of paper editions which ends up filling up their recycling bins.

If you don't think that's big business, I suggest a visit to the local mixed paper recycling center. It's a not-so-small mountain.
 
Inevitability

One of the loosers will be google because they will loose many news streams from theirs feeds. This may result in new smaller outlets emerging over that same course of time offering cheaper feed deals. But google will loose ad revenue for a while unless they fill the gap somehow. Murdoch will also loose out to independant houses emerging and providing news feeds to whomever be it apple or google.… inevitability.
 
One of the loosers will be google because they will loose many news streams from theirs feeds. This may result in new smaller outlets emerging over that same course of time offering cheaper feed deals. But google will loose ad revenue for a while unless they fill the gap somehow. Murdoch will also loose out to independant houses emerging and providing news feeds to whomever be it apple or google.… inevitability.

Did you mean "loosers will be gooogle" and "gooogle will loose?"
 
I think all of the corporate news agencies are missing one important issue.
If they and every other news outlet start charging a premium for news, then they will thin their audience even further. No one would subscribe to multiple paid outlets.
Once a person tries one subscription and it's poorly done, abcenely biased, crappy quality, then it will taint them all. Then we'll all go back to free aggregatiors and rss.
I do hope mags like Wired.com live up to their hype rather than waste my time.

Charging for stuff people work for a living to produce -- the insanity! This stuff doesn't just magically come together. We in the news biz aren't a nonprofit (insert joke).

It's about damn time our big boys started reclaiming money for our work. If 1/10th of the people read our content but we make 10 times more on that segment that does, so be it.

As far as the AP iPhone app, I don't know what some of you are doing wrong with it. It loads pretty quickly on a 3GS and provides a TON of stories. AP just needs to add easier video access to an iPad app to make it much better. It would also be nice if smaller outlets could more easily post stuff that would be read in the Local section.
 
Charging for stuff people work for a living to produce -- the insanity! This stuff doesn't just magically come together. We in the news biz aren't a nonprofit (insert joke).

It's about damn time our big boys started reclaiming money for our work. If 1/10th of the people read our content but we make 10 times more on that segment that does, so be it..

well it's that big douche Murdoch buying up media and news outlets, laying off staff, consolidating sources, changing the form of media from quality reporting to tabloid emotion driven garbage and avoiding the real issues theycare reporting. Slanting the truth into opinion rather than actualities.
Murdoch media like faux news even won a court case claiming that they didn't even have to tell the truth in a news story (Santos farming products), that set a precedent for them and every other outlet as an argumentitive test case.

Anyway the more quality, independant news house/outlets the better!
 
One of the loosers will be google because they will loose many news streams from theirs feeds. This may result in new smaller outlets emerging over that same course of time offering cheaper feed deals. But google will loose ad revenue for a while unless they fill the gap somehow. Murdoch will also loose out to independant houses emerging and providing news feeds to whomever be it apple or google.… inevitability.

How would Google lose ad revinue?
People pay for news channels for their cable/satellite subscription, yet they still advertise.
People pay for newspapers, yet they still advertise.
Magazines? Full of ads....

I have no doubt that ads will eventually worm their way into these subscription based models and Google are more than capable of providing these ads. I bet the media moguls in charge of the news sites want it both ways (subscriptions and ads).
 
If the iPad app is as frustrating to use as the current iPhone/iPod app, the chances of a pay service for me is less than zero. It's the only one that acts bass-ackwards compared to the other news apps out there (Reuters, NYT, etc.)

I already get more than my fill of AP stories from the newspapers I subscribe to, in addition to the ones I get for free.
 
Paid subscription? No thanks.

Right! You'd be paying $30 per month for 3G, then $30 for the AP, and maybe $30 for NYT, and who else? And it would be heavy on advertising, probably 1/3 of the page and 1/2 of the data xfer.

It might work if it was good, no advertising, and reasonable cost.
 
Waiting to see as well.

Have no issue with subscriptions as long as they are priced well (taking in to account the lack of the expense and shipping the printed editions). And that they give me the look and "feel" of the printed publications.

If you want them to take that into account you also need to take into account when considering if it is a good price that the ad revenue for the device will probably be a LOT less than print for quite a while. If they save 50% of print/distribution, and it cost 15% more to add interactive content and their ad revenue is down 35% then they can't make money if they sell it for 50% less than the print version.
 
The concept of subscription news by publisher in the internet age is flawed. Reading the news online is not the same as reading through a newspaper.

Newspaper / Magazine:

1. Find a single printed product from a single publisher
2. Purchase the printed product
3. Read the product cover to cover, or at least the stories that interest you.

Internet News:

1. Find a link to a story you are interested in from any of millions of publishers
2. Read the story
3. Click links within the story to visit other publishers with stories of similar context

My point is, how many of us get all of our online news from a single publisher? Or even 3 or 4 publishers? The subscription model being proposed here is that you will need to pay monthly for each news source you read. It is counter intuitive to what we have come to expect from online news in the last ten years.

This is a fundamental shift away from hyper-connectivity of information. In order to experience the Google News page, you would need to have a monthly subscription with roughly 4,500 sites (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_News)! Not to mention, 4,500 unique apps, UI's and compatibility issues to deal with.
 
Paid subscription? No thanks.
I gather you have never paid for a magazine or newspaper subscription in your life. How do you expect these organizations to pay their reporters and editors? The paper media is dying and if they can't find a way to come up with an equivalent method of distributing the news, they're going to fold.

I still can't decide whether it's better for all these newspaper and magazine publishers to create their own apps and formats, or if it'd be a better experience for Apple to enforce a standard, unified format and run everything through iTunes. I can see it being a kind of fragmented, messy experience with a lot of different apps, unique UIs for each piece of content, maintaining different accounts with each provider, etc.
You express a rather valid concern, here. With newspapers, the media was essentially the same across the board, but the editing format and layout could be individualized. Personally, I think a similar concept would work here, too--but I don't think any of them want to pay Apple for the basic platform. That would make it seem too monopolistic and honestly, none of them wants to see Apple become the Microsoft of media distribution.

Whatever happened to the iTunes delivery network, the standardized publishing format, the one-store-for-all-media concept? I'm going to need a separate App for everything I subscribe to? Is this seriously what is supposed to reinvent the print industry?

What is it about the iPad that makes this possible? Why doesn't every newspaper and magazine write a custom app for any computer to access paid content?

Hey, print industry, the concept that was about to save your slumping subscriptions was a unified delivery system backed by millions of paying customers! This idea of one publisher, yet another "app" is absurd. Best of luck to you, but I'm not buying it.

I think I answered your first question above. However, I believe the iPad brings one thing into the industry that none of the others does--versatility. Unlike the Kindle, the Sony Reader or any of the other one-shot devices, the iPad and similar tablets are going to be as ubiquitous as laptops and netbooks are today. Whether it be the New York Times or Playboy magazine, people will have the ability to carry their favorite periodicals around with them much more easily than carrying a stack of several different titles in a briefcase. While the concept of dozens of different publishing apps does seem ridiculous, they will have to work out their own differences and standardize without Apple's direct interference. Apple may set the platform, but the publishers need to standardize their formats on their own. The ones that work for the publisher and the consumer will end up being the ones that survive. Until then, we get to watch them writhe and thrash to fit into their new quarters.
 
I gather you have never paid for a magazine or newspaper subscription in your life. How do you expect these organizations to pay their reporters and editors? The paper media is dying and if they can't find a way to come up with an equivalent method of distributing the news, they're going to fold.

Surely your argument here is nullified by the fact that the Associated Press isn't a "paper media" company so they aren't in the same dire straits that the rest of the industry are?

The Associated Press is a non profit organization and they are also lucky that they have subscribers involved in more than one media form (TV, Radio and print) unlike most newspapers who are limited to print and web based content delivery.

I the AP were limited to print only media, I'd agree with you but as that's not the case, why should we pay?
 
This is probably the most disappointing part of the iPad announcement.

I assumed they would have a magazine/print app like they do for books, that newspapers and magazines could easily use to format and provide their content.

That each publisher will have to make their own app seems to make it much less useful. If they did have a centralized mechanism to publish and display newspapers and magazines I think you would see everyone jumping on board, and new publications coming into existance to take advantage of it.

As it is, seems like a lot of independent work to put out a lot of inferior products. Seems like a mistake on Apple's part.
While I may be wrong, I would guess that Apple is offering a standardized format to each of these publishers. However, it would be illegal for Apple to enforce that standard unless it gets approved as ISO-certified and license the technology to anyone who wishes to use it. What Apple doesn't need to to be viewed as abusive of this potentially monopolistic technology (such as what Nokia is now accused of doing in their patent spat with Apple?) This means that Apple must permit other formats to become compatible with the iPad device, as long as they work within the bounds of the OS itself, as many current online magazines do with their own or a standardized software platform.


I think all of the corporate news agencies are missing one important issue.
If they and every other news outlet start charging a premium for news, then they will thin their audience even further. No one would subscribe to multiple paid outlets.
Once a person tries one subscription and it's poorly done, abcenely biased, crappy quality, then it will taint them all. Then we'll all go back to free aggregatiors and rss.
I do hope mags like Wired.com live up to their hype rather than waste my time.

One thing you may not be aware of is that, prior to the internet, Reuters and the AP were not a direct-to-consumer news source, they were, instead, a source for newspapers and network TV to get national and international news without having to send their own reporters all over the world. The local papers/networks paid the international sources to reprint/broadcast the articles at a decided cost savings to each unit while the international sources got paid 'token' amounts by thousands of reprinters. This made good money across the board for everyone.

However, with the advent of the internet, suddenly the consumer could get their news direct, eliminating the middlemen and suddenly biting into the income of the local news outlets and the national/international ones. circulation of almost all the newspapers is down drastically, and paid subscriptions is almost universally the only income most of these publishers have. The problem is, the internet-savvy consumer has gotten used to free news or ad-supported news through television and websites. Print is dying and the once rock-solid circulation base is thinning rapidly. Ad-supported sites seem to be weakening as well, since most of the ads are either national or international in scale, costing these same publishers local ad dollars.

In other words, paid online subscriptions are more important to these publishers now than paid print subscriptions. A number of publishers are experimenting with means of mixing online content with paid print subscriptions, but eventually they'll all have to find a way to get the consumer to pay for their online subscription. My only complaint so far is that many of these publishers feel they should charge more for their online content than they charge for their print content; that, to me, is wrong. If they made it the same price or slightly cheaper, I think they would realize significantly more income than they ever did relying on print alone since their market would now effectively become global, not merely local.

If these companies think I'm spending $600 for a 3G iPad, $30/month for "limited" unlimited data, then another $100/month on various content subscriptions, they are sadly mistaken. I think I speak for most of us that the iPad isn't that revolutionary to make us add $100+ more per month in fees and services.

Need AP? How about launching Safari then reading RSS feeds from Yahoo News, Google, etc. Good enough. AP trying to kill RSS much???

I'll respond to you as I did to someone earlier: It appears you have never paid for a print subscription to anything in your life. You seem to think that everything on the internet should be free for the taking, no matter what it cost the publisher to research, edit and format for consumption. I find your complaint about the $30/month for 'limited' unlimited data questionable at the least since there were no limits described in that data plan discussed in that announcement. Yes, the $15 plan had bandwidth limits, but I don't recall any bandwidth limit on the $30 'unlimited' plan. Still, you pay more than that for your hard-wired internet access at home, why shouldn't you have to pay for wireless access when mobile? And it's not like you're locked into a multi-year contract yet, either, though I don't doubt that some companies might subsidize a tablet purchase with one in the future.

As for paying for AP or Reuters, that's totally your own choice; you don't pay for it, you don't get it. Simple enough? That RSS feed you so tout could easily become merely the newpaper headline with a one-paragraph takeaway--if you want to read more, then pay your subscription and get "the rest of the story." (all homage paid to the late Paul Harvey) If you're paying $120/year for the NYT now, then you should have no qualms about paying $120/year for the digital version. If you're paying $45/year now for Model Railroader now, you should have no qualms about paying the same price for the digital version--especially if they include video content that the print edition cannot offer.

In other words, your argument simply does not hold water--or ink. If you're not willing to pay, then honestly you get what you pay for. Is that succinct enough for you?
 
Surely your argument here is nullified by the fact that the Associated Press isn't a "paper media" company so they aren't in the same dire straits that the rest of the industry are?

The Associated Press is a non profit organization and they are also lucky that they have subscribers involved in more than one media form (TV, Radio and print) unlike most newspapers who are limited to print and web based content delivery.

I the AP were limited to print only media, I'd agree with you but as that's not the case, why should we pay?

Maybe you should read the rest of my comment before responding; I clearly stated that during the print media days, the AP and Reuters' money came from reprint royalties, not directly from their own printing houses. With the internet news sources no longer having to rely on AP or Reuters for their stories, they no longer have to pay royalties to them for news, unless they specifically choose to reprint/repost those specific stories. This means that unless the AP and Reuters can find another way to monetize their news, they can't afford to operate. Does that make sense to you?
 
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