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i want to point out that also HP made that statement that spectre is thiner but in real world, side by side is not..maybe Windows OEM laptops doesn't count the rubber
 
… so called precision trackpads … jerky movement, terrible gesture support …

… most new MS trackpads outside gesture support are good …

Does Microsoft manufacture any trackpad?

I see Windows Touch, Pen and Precision Touchpad Device Certification Process - Windows 8.1 HCK (also applies to Windows 10) and Device Integration - Windows 10 hardware dev in the Windows Precision Touchpad Implementation Guide. At a glance, Microsoft Surface touchpad use and settings| Surface touchpad gestures, buttons, and settings does not mention a touchpad manufacturer for the listed Surface models.

@kis said "Windows = lousy touchpad.".

Anyone, please: who manufactures the trackpad for the ZenBook 3?

If it helps, for some earlier ZenBook models:
Background

Troubleshooting for a user of TouchPad in two HP notebooks, https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/22922259 – I'll add more details to that post.

TouchPad Solutions for Notebooks | Synaptics

Touch Input Devices - Electronic Components - Alps Electric
 
Oh. Good idea. How much is Windows?
There are several ways to upgrade from windows 7,8,8.1 or straight to Win10 you can buy on line license from as little as ~$40 some of these sites seem more legit than others, but if you do a search on these forums several have been suggested, personally I recommend not going up from 7/8 to windows 10 and just get a windows 10 key.
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My immediate response to any Windows laptop: crappy touchpad, period.
You do yourself an injustice with such a detailed response :D
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But it can't run mac osx
And the bad news LOL
 
Might I suggest this would have hardware failure within a few months of aggressive usage.

That's if it survives that long after a few rounds of Windows 10 updates.

Just saying.
Well, you are "just saying" wrong. Along with my rmb, I have an equally light and speedy as the Asus laptop -- the Lenono Yoga 3 Pro with Win10, and Win10 is just as solid as OSx. And the Lenovo is 13.3."
 
Port is USB only not Thunderbolt.

Otherwise, it's 16:9 with a comparatively low resolution screen.

More importantly, it's a direct copy of the MacBook with some extra specs thrown in there just because. In that chassis, with that fan, the actual improvement gained from a 15w processor will be near zero the vast majority of the time, and you'll have to listen to that fan spinning for dear life 100% of the time.
 
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Agreed. I have a mid 2010 mp and the gpu has failed and apple wants more than $200 minimum to replace. it's a POS.

Are you seriously faulting a 6 year old computer because it has a piece of failed hardware and they want some money to replace it? Most Windows OEM's won't touch anything after their extended warranties run out at year 4 or 5!
 
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the actual improvement gained from a 15w processor will be near zero the vast majority of the time, and you'll have to listen to that fan spinning for dear life 100% of the time.

This will be equally true of other MAC's, only the MacBook is fan less

I fired up my 4 year old MBA 11" today as I managed to find a buyer for it, it did not shut up whining and as you move your hand over the top left side of the KB the pitch changes which is even more annoying, additionally I just had to send my son money to by a laptop stand with fans as his 3 year old 15" MBP is running too hot despite being cleaned and those fans do not shut up either.

I hear my wife clicking away on her rMB KB more than I ever hear my SP4 fans. Her rMB has over heated and closed down a few times now as she found that it was uncomfortably hot on her lap and was using a cushion to both raise and keep cool but this caused the rMB to over heat.

I dare say there are similar issues with other OEM's Apple is not immune and is equally troublesome/annoying in some instances
 
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This will be equally true of other MAC's, only the MacBook is fan less

I fired up my 4 year old MBA 11" today as I managed to find a buyer for it, it did not shut up whining and as you move your hand over the top left side of the KB the pitch changes which is even more annoying, additionally I just had to send my son money to by a laptop stand with fans as his 3 year old 15" MBP is running too hot despite being cleaned and those fans do not shut up either.

I hear my wife clicking away on her rMB KB more than I ever hear my SP4 fans. Her rMB has over heated and closed down a few times now as she found that it was uncomfortably hot on her lap and was using a cushion to both raise and keep cool but this caused the rMB to over heat.

I dare say there are similar issues with other OEM's Apple is not immune and is equally troublesome/annoying in some instances

As an owner of both a rMB and a Surface Pro, I'm well aware of the noise and heat generated by a 15w processor in that kind of form factor. I will say I've never seen my rMB get more than warm, and it is, of course, always silent.
 
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these cases are becoming so thin u will soon be able to just snap them with just two fingers...
 
In that chassis, with that fan, the actual improvement gained from a 15w processor will be near zero the vast majority of the time, and you'll have to listen to that fan spinning for dear life 100% of the time.
Precisely. It's a spec bump just for show to make them look different. Until there is a massive industry change, we have met the laws of physics in terms of thinness affecting heat & performance.
As an owner of both a rMB and a Surface Pro, I'm well aware of the noise and heat generated by a 15w processor in that kind of form factor. I will say I've never seen my rMB get more than warm, and it is, of course, always silent.
Yeah same here, my rMB never gets more than warm. What software is she running to stressing out that much? Wouldn't surprise me if it was Chrome.
 
Does Microsoft manufacture any trackpad?

I did not realise we were being so picky, hope we are not going to start listing all the components OEM's do not manufacture as it will be very long, including Apple.

Apple are renowned for once being the best mixologists of other peoples hardware parts and inventions (some to there own specification) so lets not go there :)

I'm sure you realise that I was referring to the new track pads on the MS Surface Book and Surface Pro with new drivers from MS, these in particular are rated very highly even against the Apple variants, Like Apple MS can specify and tune the drivers/OS to suit which some OEM's have been lazy and prohibited by patents in some countries.
 
@SteveJUAE not intended to be picky, I genuinely don't know. Would like to know. If I can learn more about the drivers etc. it might prove useful for the person who's having problems with the HP.
 
As an owner of both a rMB and a Surface Pro, I'm well aware of the noise and heat generated by a 15w processor in that kind of form factor. I will say I've never seen my rMB get more than warm, and it is, of course, always silent.
I can only guess in my wifes case it's a mixture of bare legs, streaming and the cushion covering/insulating the heat dissipation plate on the rMB, it's never occurred again now she stopped using the cushion, trouble is the bare legs have stopped too :)
 
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@SteveJUAE not intended to be picky, I genuinely don't know. Would like to know. If I can learn more about the drivers etc. it might prove useful for the person who's having problems with the HP.
No problem :)

Funny although it not too hard to find out where most parts are made/manufactured especially on Iphones even Apple Trackpad seems difficult to find. I would expect it would be one of the big ones (Cirque/Synaptics) for HP but I suspect drivers are in house modified

Try this for info http://www.synaptics.com/products/touchpad-family
 
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Are you seriously faulting a 6 year old computer because it has a piece of failed hardware and they want some money to replace it? Most Windows OEM's won't touch anything after their extended warranties run out at year 4 or 5!

It's clear you apparently don't know the whole story. Apple knew of the problem. For a time they were replacing the GPU for free, because the problem was so widespread. Now they have ended the free program just when my GPU went bad as predicted -- thus the $200 fee, maybe even more. I don't think I could get $200 for it on eBay. So don't jump the gun so fast.
 
It's clear you apparently don't know the whole story. Apple knew of the problem. For a time they were replacing the GPU for free, because the problem was so widespread. Now they have ended the free program just when my GPU went bad as predicted -- thus the $200 fee, maybe even more. I don't think I could get $200 for it on eBay. So don't jump the gun so fast.

I'm familiar with the story but I maintain that if it's made it to 6 years and they are willing to repair it at all that's more than you should reasonably expect. They have no obligation other than goodwill to support hardware for that long.
 
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Yeah the fact that this machine has both a fan and a very inferior display makes me wonder if these are comparable products.

Sure it basically matches it in weight and is thinner, etc. However, I also highly doubt the battery life is comparable.
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lol. Did Apple make its laptops out of aliens technology or something?

No, but Apple puts out a brand new model in their notebook line every 3-5 years...Asus puts out a new model every 2 or 3 months. The R&D cost that goes into that one notebook Apple produces is substantially higher compared to a 'similar' Asus product. There's a reason Apple has admirable customer loyalty for their OSX products and it's because of the known longevity and customer care that Apple provides.
 
No, but Apple puts out a brand new model in their notebook line every 3-5 years...Asus puts out a new model every 2 or 3 months. The R&D cost that goes into that one notebook Apple produces is substantially higher compared to a 'similar' Asus product. There's a reason Apple has admirable customer loyalty for their OSX products and it's because of the known longevity and customer care that Apple provides.

I'm not sure what your drinking put I'll have two of them, thanks for one of the funniest posts of late
 
I'm not sure what your drinking put I'll have two of them, thanks for one of the funniest posts of late

So you're arguing that the R&D cost specifically associated with the Asus Zenbook 3 is comparable to that of a new Apple notebook?
 
So you're arguing that the R&D cost specifically associated with the Asus Zenbook 3 is comparable to that of a new Apple notebook?
Sorry I'm not arguing anything too busy laughing, your original sentence is just typical rhetoric that ends up with discussions based on pure supposition etc that gets us nowhere other than differing opinions on guesses at best

I'm all up for a meaningful discussion but this was verging on click bait IMO, sorry
 
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