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Not everyone has the same relationship to a computer that you do. I treat my Mac as if it was an Apple IIe, as advanced by 33 years of Moores's Law. I enjoy and have come to expect exponential growth.

Huh? I'm just giving advice and explaining the realities of electronic devices to you... both as someone with a degree in electronic engineering, and over 25 years in IT. Take it for what it's worth. :)
 
Ah, no. That's Apple's MacBook Pro with dGPU.

Mines been fine for 4 years.

Regarding the Zenbook. The fundamental flaw holding it back will always be the trackpad. The so called precision trackpads are useless at best. No feel, jerky movement, terrible gesture support.

It's nice to see a bit more power packed inside a thin light device but it's still not going to do cryengine or anything like that without exploding into a cloud of cogs and cam shafts.
 
Mines been fine for 4 years.

Regarding the Zenbook. The fundamental flaw holding it back will always be the trackpad. The so called precision trackpads are useless at best. No feel, jerky movement, terrible gesture support.

It's nice to see a bit more power packed inside a thin light device but it's still not going to do cryengine or anything like that without exploding into a cloud of cogs and cam shafts.

Just because yours is fine doesn't mean that everybody else's has been.
 
That argument can be used regarding anything ever invented.

The Asus will be prone to far more hardware faults than the MBP guaranteed.

I think any consumer survey on product satisfaction will prove that one.

lol. Did Apple make its laptops out of aliens technology or something?
 
Huh? I'm just giving advice and explaining the realities of electronic devices to you... both as someone with a degree in electronic engineering, and over 25 years in IT. Take it for what it's worth. :)

Judging by what Intel does with Quicksync.
Judging by published computer reviews, compressing videos would seem to be a compelling use case for getting a new computer.
And judging by benchmarks-- well, perhaps we should forget all about that sort of fiction--

Now, you seem to imply that this sort of this is so esoteric that it necessitates a three thousand dollar Mac Pro, and mere mortals risk the health of their computer when they even try.
 
Judging by what Intel does with Quicksync.
Judging by published computer reviews, compressing videos would seem to be a compelling use case for getting a new computer.
And judging by benchmarks-- well, perhaps we should forget all about that sort of fiction--

Now, you seem to imply that this sort of this is so esoteric that it necessitates a three thousand dollar Mac Pro, and mere mortals risk the health of their computer when they even try.

Huh? Have you been reading what I've said?

I compress video on my ~$1000 iMac all the time. What I'm saying is that a Mac Pro (in Apple's lineup) is the only machine *designed* to run 100% 24/7. Their MacBook Pro *should be* as well, but that hasn't been my experience. And, that I actually understand what is going on to cause the problems, at least possibly up until recently.

Intel's chips have had thermal protection for a LONG time, but the point was that such thermal protection didn't protect the whole machine. Environmental regulations changed the formulation of solder, making it much more brittle. Do you remember all the Xbox and PS3 failures? That was due to the solder and heat... expansion and contraction of the boards. And, as was mentioned earlier in the tread, heat in MacBook Pros is hard on the battery, and triggered some of the GPU issues. And, those are the known issues. As I said, excessive heat (and cooling) is hard overall on modern electronics.

The good news, is that all these chips now run at lower power than in the past. BUT, manufacturers are also lowering the cooling capabilities, or even depending on no extra cooling (i.e.: MacBooks). And, since we've seen that in the past, they sold machines without adequate cooling to stand up to 100% utilization, it might be wise to keep that in mind, even with new lower-power systems.

Is there something you're not understanding in there?
 
Why not commit and buy the Asus and after a few months do a review and see for yourself if it's junk or not?

Absolutely! It would be great if you can fund this review because I am still broke from buying a MacBook Pro only to have the dGPU fail every few months.
 
Absolutely! It would be great if you can fund this review because I am still broke from buying a MacBook Pro only to have the dGPU fail every few months.

I'm starting to get curious ... Why are you still posting on this site if you have such a hate on for Apple? Logic would suggest that if something pisses one off, don't do it ... Unless they enjoy being pissed off so much (strangely, some people are like that.)

Patient: "Doctor, it hurts when I do this."
Doctor: "Then don't do that."
 
I'm starting to get curious ... Why are you still posting on this site if you have such a hate on for Apple? Logic would suggest that if something pisses one off, don't do it ... Unless they enjoy being pissed off so much (strangely, some people are like that.)

Patient: "Doctor, it hurts when I do this."
Doctor: "Then don't do that."

I don't hate Apple.

I am just not one of those people that is in the cult of Apple.
 
If you use the internet and regardless of operating system, everything you do is collected, logged & archived indefinitely. Google 'Tempora' and learn what it is does & 'XKeyscore'.
This is tinfoil hat paranoia. The NSA does not remotely access files on your computer, does not log everything you enter in your local search box, does not record your interactions with the GUI, and does not send lists of software you have installed back to the mothership. Microsoft does all of these if you run Windows 10 in the default configuration. They also place targeted ads in your start menu.
There are many other systems like it. It's so naive to believe everything you do is private so to get upset about the diagnostic data Windows 10 sends is ridiculous.
Is it? You don't even know what the "diagnostic data" includes.
It's really not an issue is it?
It would be much less of an issue if Microsoft didn't turn all this crap on by default and then do their best to hide and obfuscate the ways to disable it.
If you use Facebook & Google services for example, then they really do cross the line in some respects.
What kind of argument is that? Even if others do it, that still doesn't make it OK for Microsoft to invade my privacy. Especially since I pay Microsoft for Windows, so I expect to be treated as a customer and not as a product.
The genius thing about Facebook is that the user willingly chooses to share their lives (lives = data) with the service.
The use of Facebook is entirely voluntary. But you can't use a computer without operating system.
For people to complain about privacy yet willingly hand over your most personal data to services like this is plain old hypocrisy at it's best.
What makes you think I use services like Facebook?
 
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Apparently, companies don't see it like that any more. Just heard about this, and it's not April 1...
http://samsungrumors.net/11389-2/
Wow, that would be outrageous. Although, I'm not too surprised. Smart TV companies have been caught spying on their users before, see e.g. here:

http://www.networkworld.com/article...tv-owners-watch-sell-data-to-advertisers.html

Best not to connect your TV to the Internet. At least media boxes like the Apple TV cannot scan your screen to identify everything you are watching like e.g. the Vizio TVs do.

BTW, this is one of the things I really value about Apple: They largely stay out of the targeted ad business (with limited exceptions like the News app and the iTunes store). They even discontinued iAd.
 
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Wow, that would be outrageous. Although, I'm not too surprised. Smart TV companies have been caught spying on their users before .... Best not to connect your TV to the Internet ...

Wow, just wow. I guess it's time to go find the best dumb-TV I can find. You mentioned tin hat paranoia, but if someone had said something like these last couple of posts a couple of decades ago, you can bet you'd have been accused of being a conspiracy theorist.
 
I would also look at the new Lenovo 900S it's also a great PC with touch and pen support and 2 screen options

As for trackpads this is old hat now most new MS trackpads outside gesture support are good and some as good as Apple and this is all mute once you use a mouse for productivity and/or have a pen.

Also fan noise is over played card and you could call it a trade off over earlier throttling on some laptops. The noisiest laptop in our household is the MBA and the worst for heat is my sons MBP 15". My wife's rMB was cutting out due to heat occasionally as she had a habit of placing it on a cushion on her lap to make it higher/more comfortable.

Build quality on these newer class of laptops is fine and you only have to scroll through pages here to see equal problems, no OEM is immune.
 
I would also look at the new Lenovo 900S it's also a great PC with touch and pen support and 2 screen options

As for trackpads this is old hat now most new MS trackpads outside gesture support are good and some as good as Apple and this is all mute once you use a mouse for productivity and/or have a pen.

Also fan noise is over played card and you could call it a trade off over earlier throttling on some laptops. The noisiest laptop in our household is the MBA and the worst for heat is my sons MBP 15". My wife's rMB was cutting out due to heat occasionally as she had a habit of placing it on a cushion on her lap to make it higher/more comfortable.

Build quality on these newer class of laptops is fine and you only have to scroll through pages here to see equal problems, no OEM is immune.

Am just waiting to see the 900S in real life, if as good as the reviews say it will be an instant buy for me as it offers many features that the Mac will sadly never have. Asus produce fairly decent hardware and there is no reason to suspect that the new Zenbook 3 will be any different, it certainly isn't going to fail in a matter of a few months.

Also agree two hottest running notebooks I have owned is the Air & the 15" MBP which is infamous for the temperatures it generates both internally, externally, nor can the 15" MBP be considered remotely reliable given that the majority of models have had serious issue, resulting multiple extended warranty programs, and or court action. This is not "hate" towards Apple, rather more based on user experience across many years of owning Mac`s

Personally I am very pleased to see the Windows OEM`s stepping up and delivering as we will be the major benefactors be it here in OS X or Windows. Apple already knows it needs to "up it game" as Mac`s are not selling, so the harder the Windows OEM`s push the better Mac you will likely own in the future.


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If you use the internet and regardless of operating system, everything you do is collected, logged & archived indefinitely. Google 'Tempora' and learn what it is does & 'XKeyscore'. There are many other systems like it. It's so naive to believe everything you do is private so to get upset about the diagnostic data Windows 10 sends is ridiculous.

I don't approve of any of those programs either. Just because someone else is trying to data mine everything i do, does not mean i am going to roll over and take it from everyone else.

You may accept ever more invasive and malicious behaviour from Microsoft. i will not.

I've bought plenty of stuff from them over the years, since 1992. i am not going to buy anything else.
 
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I don't want to use Macs anymore. I discovered Android five years ago and haven't looked back and I often wonder if the same could happen if I went back to a PC.

But there's just no PC that cuts it. This Zenbook 3 is the closest, but it still isn't good enough. Why release a computer with the same one-port-annoyance as the MacBook?

Any news on battery compared to a MacBook?

And for £999, it could be a very expensive experiment.
 
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I don't want to use Macs anymore. I discovered Android five years ago and haven't looked back and I often wonder if the same could happen if I went back to a PC.

But there's just no PC that cuts it. This Zenbook 3 is the closest, but it still isn't good enough. Why release a computer with the same one-port-annoyance as the MacBook?

If you struggling to find a Windows hardware platform out of the great choices available why not simply stick with your current MAC and run bootcamp and have the best of both :)
 
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