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ASUS ProArt 6K Review: $1,399 Gets You a 32-Inch 6K Display
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What are the screens you use, and how big are they?
I am currently using two "4K" Dell P2715Q's in landscape (side-by-side) with my Studio.
Though I admit to using an iPhone 13-mini for mobile use, I've found that using multiple, large displays on the desktop is extremely satisfying. A game-changer.
I can literally view two A4 (~8.5"x11") pages 1:1 at the same time; on one screen. Photo editing is absolutely stupendous at large resolution. My productivity has increased exponentially!
One cannot ever have enough compute, memory or screen real estate
Personally, I recently purchased the Kuycon G32P, and it's gana be quite a change from 10y's worth of matte viewing.
Another review of this monitor showed up. It's pretty lacking in substance though: https://www.australianphotography.com/gear/review-asus-proart-32qcv-image-editing-monitor
I mainly use my 2024 MacBook Pro 16 inch with the nano texture, but I also have a Vision Pro. I got an ultra wide G9 in storage that I haven't used in years though, I used that before I had my Vision Pro. I understand the screen size of a monitor and its usefulness, but the 6K of this one I was wondering what would be the benefit. I know people edit videos but do people record in 6K right now? Most people don't got 6K devices to watch 6K content on. The Vision Pro can do ultra wide Virtual Display now which is amazing for how small of a device it is. Other than that I use hotel room 1080p or 4K TVs lol.What are the screens you use, and how big are they?
I am currently using two "4K" Dell P2715Q's in landscape (side-by-side) with my Studio.
Though I admit to using an iPhone 13-mini for mobile use, I've found that using multiple, large displays on the desktop is extremely satisfying. A game-changer.
I can literally view two A4 (~8.5"x11") pages 1:1 at the same time; on one screen. Photo editing is absolutely stupendous at large resolution. My productivity has increased exponentially!
One cannot ever have enough compute, memory or screen real estate
Personally, I recently purchased the Kuycon G32P, and it's gana be quite a change from 10y's worth of matte viewing.
Good observation about the printer! I think the only way around the display issue is to make Stevie Wonder their new spokesperson 🤣 I have bad humor, forgive me.
Plus, a $1500 monitor that is gorgeous and will last a LONG time (my thunderbolt 30” or whatever it is still works perfect.). They don’t make junk. They make beautiful products that all have a specific function.
If you couldn’t (or can’t) afford their 32” monitor, well perhaps your line of business doesn’t require it… Santa doesn’t bring a monitor to everyone. And these days it seems as if people expect that he does.
Although selling a separate stand is kind of a punch in the face…
But it could also be a marketing mechanism to see what their current customer base is willing to do and how far they will go to obtain the art they produce. Because to me, they make art.
Imagine your beautiful non-cluttered office with that giant XDR display you want people to see.
Now picture that same office with a plastic Dell that I’m sure is cluttered. “Quick! The in-laws are coming over! Hide the clutter!” 🤣
They are about making a workspace into a beautiful discussion room in my eyes. Cheers!
Try this one. Let's say Apple gets out of the external display business (I'd say they have to stay in it or focus on iMacs due to the built-in display), and they have a commercial for the Mac Mini or Studio with a 3rd party display observable. They'd try to hide the logo, but a thread would pop up on MacRumors where someone identified the brand.
Now picture this...a skit video ad. where Tim Cook is shown and that young guy from the old commercials many years ago pops up with "Dude! You're getting a Dell!" Points at Cook.
Unless they bring back the 27" iMac, I think they have to put out Apple-branded displays. Even if they dodged it in commercials, anybody buying a Mac Mini or Mac Studio would automatically be referred to a competitor for their display needs. While it happens a lot anyway, the understanding is you're settling for a non-Apple display to save money. That's a dynamic they need to retain.
2) the price point is high for specific reasons. The display itself is far superior (nits etc…). Build quality (can’t use a screwdriver and hammer to fix this one). Look how long the monitor has been released, and other manufacturers are just NOW being able to even come close to being a competitor. But in my eyes, especially when Jobs was here, they had no competition. And what I mean is, they could care less what other companies were doing. I design and marketer for large healthcare systems, and they all basically just say “we need to do what X is doing because they are making money “. But it fails because there is a specific reason AND research AND demographic target marketing tactics as to why they did what they did. Notice they don’t even promote that monitor really in the least bit? Not until you visit their website where they can truly make it shine, and give you more than 30 seconds to even read about its benefits. I’m a power user and even I didn’t know they still sell the Tower with an M2 chip. And no price decrease there. I’d totally buy a Mac Studio Rack mount, ha!
Speakers, cameras, all those goodies. Professional users aren’t using the built in stuff. Especially to save on costs. They are using studio monitors for sound, external cameras for video that I’m sure aren’t even apple products.
The power user segment is , in my opinion, on hold for now. Where is AI headed? Who is the “New” power user? Being able to upgrade your power machine isn’t exactly priority any longer. At least right now.
Yet here we are talking about a monitor still. I owned two. Returned one because a dual 32” setup was way overkill for my needs, and then I downsized to the studio 27” and sold the XDR. Which now I regret. So I’ll be putting my studio on the market and go back to the XDR. I’ll admit to thinking some of these new monitors are great, as well as the price point. But I know once I sit at my desk, and look at my 500 nit knock off XDR, I’m just not a pro user anymore, but a budget user that goes to Applebees because I had a coupon 🤣
Jobs had a vision, and he spent the last of his time on Earth trying his best to instill that into Tim. This, on a much smaller scale, has happened to me. As much as I tried to carry on that vision, it wasn’t mine. I found it next to impossible as a creative to continue on with someone else’s vision. Those people are the ones that work in cubicles. I’m unsure who here has noticed it, but from day one I saw it. You can wear as many black shirts as you want, but it still will never be the same color black as Steve would have worn.
Perhaps from an XDR monitor you might notice, but we no longer care what Tim had on that day. And I’m sure Steve had a reason of why he wore what he did during those announcements. A true designer has a reason for every single thing that is done.
I’ll never forget when I was at a friends family gathering. My best friend said to his uncle being sarcastic “you’re wearing a black shirt with brown shoes.”
He replied with “and a brown belt with brown watch strap. I don’t follow trends, son. I set them.”
I don’t think I’ve ever worn black shoes since 🤣
Apple would never mimic another companies campaign. And if they did, game over. It would then be obvious they no longer have forward thinking ideas, and checkmate is near. To me
Apple is recognized for its design aesthetic. It wasn’t until the iPod shuffle that was a product they focused more on the marketing. The behind the scenes of its commercials are very remarkable. It was the first of its kind. Emotion sells, and they definitely nailed the mark on that one.
Heck I’ve even used the 30” 1920 display not that many years ago as a 2nd display for my laptop while teaching Typography at Michigan State University. And they can be had for cheap and still look beautiful even now.
And the ones that don’t understand, also don’t understand why 1984 will never be like 1984 again. Because we are the crazy ones.
“Stay hungry, stay foolish.”
And the MagSafe design, as tiny as it may be, is remarkable in itself.
BUT, they aren’t without their flaws. And I (and them) admit that. The black round Mac Pro was such a flop. About as useful as a square wheel. They can’t all be winners, but if you don’t recognize your failure, you just f*ck’d yourself and will continue to fail.
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Just a heads up that my (and others) order from B&H shipped yesterday. Arrival tomorrow! I’m guessing the date that got pushed back is for their next wave of stock.
Which TV's are these?
All I've seen in the past decade use plastics...
My P2715Q's are fantastic, and they are plastic/matte.
My LG 55" TV is fantastic, and it's glossy/plastic/matte screen is excellent at night.
I once used a 27" Trinitron for similar application and it was . . . heavy
I received my shipment from B&H today and hooked it up. I'll give my quick first impressions here and maybe a more thorough review later when I've had some time with the monitor.
Appearance
The monitor itself looks better than I worried. I definitely would have still preferred something without the 'chin', but honestly because it's black, it's not something I even notice when using the monitor.
Matte Display / Glare
I was worried about the quality of the matte coating they have. I think they call it "LuxPixel" and I really like it. I am NOT a monitor snob, so take this all with a grain of salt, but to my eyes the screen looks amazing. I don't detect any 'graininess' and whatever it's doing to diffuse the reflections is WAY better than the cheap 4K LG monitor I was using before. With that monitor, there were obvious spots where I could see the light diffused from the glare and it was pretty distracting. I don't get that at all here. I still would prefer a glossy finish, but I personally think the Asus LuxPixel is good for me!
6k vs. 5k vs. 4k scaled to 5k
I went from a 5k iMac to a Mac Studio with a cheap 4k monitor running in a scaled 5k mode. I'm getting older and my eyes aren't the best these days. I could tell the 5k scaling on the 4k monitor wasn't great, but it wasn't until I hooked up this 6k monitor and ran it at the proper scaling that I realized how bad I had it!
The 6k resolution is really great. The extra real estate is definitely noticeable and the text is still super-crisp. I'm a software engineer by trade, so good looking text is essential for me and this monitor hits all the marks!
6k 32" is definitely a sweet spot!
Stand / VESA Mount
The stand seems really sturdy, but I didn't hook it up at all. I have a VESA monitor arm and normally have my monitors a little taller than most stands support. The stand inset on this monitor is a little deeper than normal and it took some time to get the VESA mount connected to my arm. Not sure why it's inset so much, but I'm assuming they know better than I do and most monitor arms would be fine.
Monitor Settings
The Mac Display Widget software works great. While I do appreciate the convenience of the front monitor buttons, I would choose a cleaner look any day especially since the display widget seems to do just about everything I'd need the buttons on the front for.
Any questions out there?? I'd be glad to try and answer.
Appearance
The monitor itself looks better than I worried. I definitely would have still preferred something without the 'chin', but honestly because it's black, it's not something I even notice when using the monitor.
Matte Display / Glare
I was worried about the quality of the matte coating they have. I think they call it "LuxPixel" and I really like it. I am NOT a monitor snob, so take this all with a grain of salt, but to my eyes the screen looks amazing. I don't detect any 'graininess' and whatever it's doing to diffuse the reflections is WAY better than the cheap 4K LG monitor I was using before. With that monitor, there were obvious spots where I could see the light diffused from the glare and it was pretty distracting. I don't get that at all here. I still would prefer a glossy finish, but I personally think the Asus LuxPixel is good for me!
6k vs. 5k vs. 4k scaled to 5k
I went from a 5k iMac to a Mac Studio with a cheap 4k monitor running in a scaled 5k mode. I'm getting older and my eyes aren't the best these days. I could tell the 5k scaling on the 4k monitor wasn't great, but it wasn't until I hooked up this 6k monitor and ran it at the proper scaling that I realized how bad I had it!
The 6k resolution is really great. The extra real estate is definitely noticeable and the text is still super-crisp. I'm a software engineer by trade, so good looking text is essential for me and this monitor hits all the marks!
6k 32" is definitely a sweet spot!
Stand / VESA Mount
The stand seems really sturdy, but I didn't hook it up at all. I have a VESA monitor arm and normally have my monitors a little taller than most stands support. The stand inset on this monitor is a little deeper than normal and it took some time to get the VESA mount connected to my arm. Not sure why it's inset so much, but I'm assuming they know better than I do and most monitor arms would be fine.
Monitor Settings
The Mac Display Widget software works great. While I do appreciate the convenience of the front monitor buttons, I would choose a cleaner look any day especially since the display widget seems to do just about everything I'd need the buttons on the front for.
Any questions out there?? I'd be glad to try and answer.
What interface are you using? Besides the interface you are using now, did you try any of the others? Are there any differences between the various input types at 6K, like HDCP support? What resolution options do you have besides 3008x1692? Which Mac Studio do you have?
I'm currently using USB-C with my M4 Mac mini, but hope to switch to HDMI when I get a 6K monitor.
Glad to hear you like the LuxPixel matte surface and the Mac Display Widget software. I'm worried about people getting burnt out Thunderbolt ports, but presumably that's with laptops that receive power through that cable.
Currently using an M4 Max Mac Studio. I had it connected via Thunderbolt 4, but just switched it to HDMI using the cable they provided and see no differences anywhere. Here's a screenshot of my current display settings (Notice the HDR option toggle). The HDR option is there in both HDMI and TB4 modes. I think I'll keep it connected via HDMI for now anyways and free up a thunderbolt port on the Mac Studio since I don't plan on using any of the ports on the monitor.
^^^ Thanks @mintshows, that's great to know HDMI works well. It will be interesting to see if HDR works in my setup with Citrix Workplace. On my current monitor, if I use HDR, everything in macOS seems to work properly, but when I load up Citrix Workplace and access a remote Windows 11 session, the text in Windows has colour fringing. If I turn off HDR, the colour fringing disappears.
As expected, there is no resolution option between 3008x1692 and 2560x1440. As I prefer somewhat bigger text than what 3008x1692 offers by default (for example something like 2880x1620), I will use 3008x1692 but will just have to manually adjust per-app text sizing, which is fine.
As expected, there is no resolution option between 3008x1692 and 2560x1440. As I prefer somewhat bigger text than what 3008x1692 offers by default (for example something like 2880x1620), I will use 3008x1692 but will just have to manually adjust per-app text sizing, which is fine.
I think the HDR switch appears only for type-C thunderbolt connections. For normal DP over type-C connections, there's not enough bandwidth for HDR.
This is usually the case with "chins" .. product photos get people worried about it, and it tends to just not be a thing when in actual use. 👍
I also received my ProArt 6K this weekend. Some initial thoughts:
Pros:
- As a developer, the anti matte display is awesome. I have a LG 5K glossy display which I've heard is similar in glossiness to iMacs and I could always see my reflection in it but with the ProArt there are no reflections at all. The text to my eye looks super crisp.
- This is the brightest display I have and the colors really pop and look great.
- There are 3 USB ports that work with the KVM switching, a USB A and C on the front, and 1 USB A on the back. Works with keyboards, mice, webcams and I'm sure more.
- There is a daisy chain thunderbolt port that can support a 5K display (apparently up to 6K) but it will only send that signal to the computer connected via thunderbolt, not the one that's connected via HDMI/DP+USB.
Cons:
- The Smart KVM switch is a nice idea but it was a bit maddening for me to set up. First thing is that you have to use a thunderbolt connection for 1 and then a HDMI/DP+USB connection for the second. I didn't realize this at first but the USB you use is the one labeled USB 3.2 upstream. Luckily you can feed the HDMI/DP + USB connections into a dock- I already had an OWC thunderbolt pro dock and this allows you to maintain a single thunderbolt connection into your second computer which matches your first computers connection type.
- ASUS DisplayWidget claims it can be used to configure your Smart KVM but it cannot, at least in OS X. I'm pretty sure this software is causing weirdness when switching between the two computers because both the OS X system display configuration and the DisplayWidget seem to fight about the monitor's configuration and I'll often have my monitors oriented 90 or 180 degrees from what I expect, so you have to use the mouse in a weird way to switch the orientation back to get it to look right.
- Switching between two macbooks is a bit finicky. There's an input button on the front of the monitor to switch but if the other mac's asleep it doesn't seem to let you switch. You have to instead open the full menu and switch it in the input section.
- The OSD menu is weird- when you go to the settings part of it, it only gives you a few seconds to make the changes before the whole menu disappears. On other pages it stays up for the 20-30 seconds that its programmed to do, so I think this is a bug.
- There's apparently no keyboard command for switching the KVM switch like other Asus Smart KVM monitors. I've tried alt+s, alt+1, alt+2 and ctrl+alt+s and none of those do anything. There's no mention in the manual for an alternative keyboard shortcut that will switch it.
The silver lining is there are third party apps like BetterDisplay which can send OSD commands to your monitor so I think it might be possible to switch the KVM that way rather than using the OSD commands. In order to do that though you have to know the right values to send for switching input sources, so maybe if we could crowdsource what all the configuration settings are with this monitor, we could configure a third party app ourselves to do what the DisplayWidget should be doing. I wonder if that spec sheet is available anywhere.
Despite the software weirdness with the KVM, this is a very nice monitor!
Pros:
- As a developer, the anti matte display is awesome. I have a LG 5K glossy display which I've heard is similar in glossiness to iMacs and I could always see my reflection in it but with the ProArt there are no reflections at all. The text to my eye looks super crisp.
- This is the brightest display I have and the colors really pop and look great.
- There are 3 USB ports that work with the KVM switching, a USB A and C on the front, and 1 USB A on the back. Works with keyboards, mice, webcams and I'm sure more.
- There is a daisy chain thunderbolt port that can support a 5K display (apparently up to 6K) but it will only send that signal to the computer connected via thunderbolt, not the one that's connected via HDMI/DP+USB.
Cons:
- The Smart KVM switch is a nice idea but it was a bit maddening for me to set up. First thing is that you have to use a thunderbolt connection for 1 and then a HDMI/DP+USB connection for the second. I didn't realize this at first but the USB you use is the one labeled USB 3.2 upstream. Luckily you can feed the HDMI/DP + USB connections into a dock- I already had an OWC thunderbolt pro dock and this allows you to maintain a single thunderbolt connection into your second computer which matches your first computers connection type.
- ASUS DisplayWidget claims it can be used to configure your Smart KVM but it cannot, at least in OS X. I'm pretty sure this software is causing weirdness when switching between the two computers because both the OS X system display configuration and the DisplayWidget seem to fight about the monitor's configuration and I'll often have my monitors oriented 90 or 180 degrees from what I expect, so you have to use the mouse in a weird way to switch the orientation back to get it to look right.
- Switching between two macbooks is a bit finicky. There's an input button on the front of the monitor to switch but if the other mac's asleep it doesn't seem to let you switch. You have to instead open the full menu and switch it in the input section.
- The OSD menu is weird- when you go to the settings part of it, it only gives you a few seconds to make the changes before the whole menu disappears. On other pages it stays up for the 20-30 seconds that its programmed to do, so I think this is a bug.
- There's apparently no keyboard command for switching the KVM switch like other Asus Smart KVM monitors. I've tried alt+s, alt+1, alt+2 and ctrl+alt+s and none of those do anything. There's no mention in the manual for an alternative keyboard shortcut that will switch it.
The silver lining is there are third party apps like BetterDisplay which can send OSD commands to your monitor so I think it might be possible to switch the KVM that way rather than using the OSD commands. In order to do that though you have to know the right values to send for switching input sources, so maybe if we could crowdsource what all the configuration settings are with this monitor, we could configure a third party app ourselves to do what the DisplayWidget should be doing. I wonder if that spec sheet is available anywhere.
Despite the software weirdness with the KVM, this is a very nice monitor!
@excalibur313
Great report!
This sounds like an incredible display and value for anyone who doesn't need the very specific advantages of the XDR.
A+ work Asus!
Great report!
This sounds like an incredible display and value for anyone who doesn't need the very specific advantages of the XDR.
A+ work Asus!
there is enough bandwidth for HDR when a monitor is connected via DP1.4+DSC.
In case when a monitor is connected via DP1.4 but DSC isn't enabled HDR is not available but also image is in 8bit and 4:2:2 chroma subsampling mode.
Anyone buy in japan? There is 10% tax free plus 7% off coupon at stores like bic camera and yamada denki. Considering usa sales tax is 0.0975 also. I noticed some stores have it in stock. Others are just order and store pickup. Not sure how tax free works if you have to order for pickup. Probably wont work if you have to enter payment info online first.