Asus Zenbook (13inch) vs. Apple Macbook-Air (13inch) / Macbook-Retina (15inch)

[Sahee]

IT DOESNT COST DOUBLE.

You havnt factored in the full price of a SSD. You also havnt factored in this is a 13" machine which is CHEAPER because its 13"

30gb System SSD is a con. Everything else is slow which isnt on the cache. just a cheap trick.

They put a 1080p on a 5 inch phone screen, 1080p is nothing special.

620M is Junk. 96 shaders vs 384 Also slower and uses junk DDR3 memory.

"The 128-bit version of the GeForce GT 620M should perform similarly to the older GeForce GT 525M due to their similar clock rates and core architecture. Therefore, modern and demanding games should be playable in low to medium settings at 1366x768 pixel resolution. The rumored 64-bit version will likely suffer from the reduced bandwidth and offer slower performance in comparison."

The Laptop costs 950€, +200€ (Samsung 830 256GB) + 50€ (8GB 1600MHZ DDR3) is a total of 1200€. That's half the price. The fact that it is a 13inch screen is a favor towards the Zenbook...not against it... but Yeah I've you want to game on a portable machine... than go ahead and buy yourself a rMBP, damn seriously.
Everything I hear is: game, game, game.

I am using a portable device for work, not for gaming.
I do basically feel like I am running against a wall .

 

[zerotiu]

Why does it seem so hard to decide?
This is my howebrew guide

[1]. So you are a student :

-Windows can't run OSX. Goto [2].
-OSX can run both. Goto [3]

[2]. So you want Windows, then choose Asus or another laptop brands

[3]. So you want OSX,
-I need super-wow-I-can't-come-back-to-ordinary-display. Buy retina MBP
-I need ordinary display. Buy MBP /MBA

For me, what distinguished Apple and Windows is the operating system. It doesn't make sense if you compare the hardware. Let say you have the best laptop in the world, but it runs windows. That's it... you will never run OSX. What makes it so hard?

 

[Sahee]

Why does it seem so hard to decide?
This is my howebrew guide

[1]. So you are a student :

-Windows can't run OSX. Goto [2].
-OSX can run both. Goto [3]

[2]. So you want Windows, then choose Asus or another laptop brands

[3]. So you want OSX,
-I need super-wow-I-can't-come-back-to-ordinary-display. Buy retina MBP
-I need ordinary display. Buy MBP /MBA

For me, what distinguished Apple and Windows is the operating system. It doesn't make sense if you compare the hardware. Let say you have the best laptop in the world, but it runs windows. That's it... you will never run OSX. What makes it so hard?

First: Nice Algorithm...
Couple of days ago a MacRumor member told me the following:

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I am a long-time IT professional, expert in Linux and have used both Windows and Mac for a long time. My summary...

Mac - Gives you the most choice. If you get any quad core Mac and install as much RAM as possible you can start Windows and Linux VM's easily, or just boot into a partition. The point of Mac is ease of use. The experience is very refined. The solution to most problems is to buy some software.

Don't switch to Mac because it's Unix-like. All of that is hidden.

Linux - If you want to learn how an OS works then use Linux. They all work pretty much the same way. There's a kernel and a process table. Each one has its ins & outs but Linux lets you tinker the most, by far.

Windows has by far the most software. If you need to solve a task odds are the software is available somewhere, usually for free. The experience is fair, the OS is quite solid. If you want to play games it's the only choice. It has the most and best hardware support.

If you really want to learn, go Linux all the way - as your only OS. This is like operating without a safety net. You'll be forced to use the package manager, deal with incompatible libraries, tweak the system and code... it's also the cheapest. Linux performs well on old hardware.

In fact I would put forward this challenge to anybody who wants to learn - get yourself a $200 laptop and put Linux on it and live that way for a year. You will learn a lot.

________________________________________________________________________

Of course, I would not buy a clunky 200€ machine, cause I really want portability... but Zenbook + Windows with Linux Partition... why not? This thread is not only about me, making my decision, its about others making their decision.

 

[pandamonia]

The Laptop costs 950€, +200€ (Samsung 830 256GB) + 50€ (8GB 1600MHZ DDR3) is a total of 1200€. That's half the price. The fact that it is a 13inch screen is a favor towards the Zenbook...not against it... but Yeah I've you want to game on a portable machine... than go ahead and buy yourself a rMBP, damn seriously.
Everything I hear is: game, game, game.

I am using a portable device for work, not for gaming.
I do basically feel like I am running against a wall .

i think id rather have the 13" AIR than the Zenbook.

You dont need the GPU or the 1080p screen by the sounds of it.

Why are you even talking about a Retina Pro?

It sounds to me like you just cannot afford it.

 

[leenak]

So basically, you want to run Linux and Windows on the same system? Then go for it.

FYI, you could also run Linux off a USB. Are you the one that plans to go into CS? If so, I'd recommend looking into BSD instead, like FreeBSD.

I bought the rMBP because of the quad core, video card, form factor and I have always hated windows.

So if I didn't want the video card, I probably go with the MB Air with an upgraded processor. The Asus processor isn't as good as even the base MBA processor. It isn't a large difference but it is a difference.

The rMBP and Asus are very different machines, I don't know why anyone who would decide on the rMBP would even consider the Asus.

 

[zerotiu]

First: Nice Algorithm...
Couple of days ago a MacRumor member told me the following:

________________________________________________________________________



________________________________________________________________________

Of course, I would not buy a clunky 200€ machine, cause I really want portability... but Zenbook + Windows with Linux Partition... why not? This thread is not only about me, making my decision, its about others making their decision.

That's what I'm trying to say. You've chosen windows, forget Apple laptop .
and also it can be applied for anyone. Kinda the same suggestion.

 

[Sahee]

i think id rather have the 13" AIR than the Zenbook.

You dont need the GPU or the 1080p screen by the sounds of it.

Why are you even talking about a Retina Pro?

It sounds to me like you just cannot afford it.

I can afford it for sure . Do I need it? No.
I'm talking about the RetinaPro cause I think its not worth it... who need powerhouse laptops these days (its a minority!). If you really need this powerful hardware than you will most likely work on an external screen which makes the Retina-Screen useless.

Somebody said that the rMBP is a 2200€ Facebook machine and I need to agree with this guy at some point... I guess 20-30% of the buyers do even know what a virtual machine is...

There are Musicians/DJ's and App-Programmers who really need OSX... those guys don't need good hardware in most cases. So who is the Retina-Macbook meant for? Defiantly not for Photo editors... cause the Retina-Screen will affect the photo appearance when viewed on a normal full HD screen, who has a 2k Screen at home? So basically you edit a Photo on 2k and render it on HD, so where is the reason for using 2k?

The technology is not ready for such a high screen resolution on a computer device and everyone who uses the retina Macbook will limit himself in usage, cause the software will need to get upgraded to that resolution which can takes months (or even years, who knows).

Regarding my question who the Retina-Macbook meant for:

Journalists and Coders.
They stare at monitors for hours and the Retina-Screen will reduce Eye strain. The funny thing is that both do not need the hardware, but there is no alternative on the market as a 13 inch (Zenbook) for example is too small do be viewed for several hours.

For the majority the Retina Macbook is a waste of money, and is defiantly a waste of money for a student. That's all I'm saying.

if the computer that it should be compared to outperforms it and the one you are comparing it to, is in a league of its own... than the comparison doesn't really make much sense, does it?

Alright lets talk some serious business, where does the rMBP outperforms a UX32VD (when the device is attached with SSD and 10GB RAM).

1. Net-Browsing -> No!
2. Writing/Coding -> No!
3. Rendering -> No!
4. Photo Editing -> No!
5. Video Editing -> Yes!
6. 3D Programming (who does that on a 15inch screen??) -> Yes!
6. Gaming -> Yes!

...it does not look like it outperforms the Zenbook in every aspect!
The Retina-Macbook wins in those situations which are only important for a small minority. But oh well... there are those Gamers! Well Gamers, they need this device for sure If you compare both, the Air and the Zenbook, than it comes to the same conclusion, but the display of the Asus device is the deal breaker in that case.

 

[416049]

It outperforms the MBA in every situation .
Its actually more comparable with the rMBR than with the MBA... which means a lot.

I do think that the Asus Zenbook could be indicted with plagiarism... the similarity of design is too obvious.
Apple did exactly that during the 2011 Zenbook release, but yet nothing happened.

if the computer that it should be compared to outperforms it and the one you are comparing it to, is in a league of its own... than the comparison doesn't really make much sense, does it?

 

[charpi]

Actually I sort of agree with TS and don't get all the flaming he gets.

Let's take about performance instead of hardware, and put aside all the Windows v OSX debate first.

Sure, rMBP performance wins hands down, if TS wants to do Aperture + FCS + crazy hardware intensive stuff. But since he said he is a student, I'm sure for the everyday things he does like surfing the net and checking email both will be comparable. Even if he games, the gaming benchmarks are still not bad.

RAM issue, I did not read up on 10GB or 4GB RAM so I won't go into that. but IMO 4GB is enough for at least 2 years. My 2011 Air with 4GB does not have problems with any day to day programs yet. I don't see much of an issue on that.

Screen - Obviously rMBP wins here. But 1080p IPS is no slouch either. I bet people will be hailing Apple as a genius if they put 1080p on the Air. So I don't get that Retina v Average screen debate. Retina definitely wins no doubt, at the cost of more money. (And I too will not go into any scroll lag issues because I have not tried any so I won't comment, but judging by posts here, it would be resolved in ML)

HDD - Yup, Air/rMBP wins here too. However, I read something about "Time critical processes" somewhere in this forums a long time ago, when the first SSD macs were out and people were complaining about the smaller Graphics bump. Basically it says this: 10min to copy a file v 5min to copy the same file is most of the time not "Time critical" (ie, your workflow will not be that severely affected). But a 10FPS difference can decide whether a game is playable or not, thus, it is "Time critical". Apple wins in this aspect, but definitely is not a dealbreaker. (I'd like to see the boot up times of the UX32 though)

So, of course if you are a professional, by all means, rMBP is for you. I, too am waiting for one. (I will buy rev2 after all the issues are ironed out next revision, my 2011 Air is still good). But for a student, I think that UX32 is a good contender - definitely comparable to Air and not a bad choice at all, especially at the cost of half of what the rMBP costs.

Cheers

 

[leenak]

So, of course if you are a professional, by all means, rMBP is for you. I, too am waiting for one. (I will buy rev2 after all the issues are ironed out next revision, my 2011 Air is still good). But for a student, I think that UX32 is a good contender - definitely comparable to Air and not a bad choice at all, especially at the cost of half of what the rMBP costs.

I don't think there is any flaming but I think aside from OSX vs Windows, the Zenbook is more of a mix of a nice screen (like the rMBP) and everything else like the MB Air. It isn't either of those things but would be more in competition with people who would want an Air vs people who would want a rMBP.

Of course there are people waiting for the 13" rMBP and they would probably wait until pricing/specs to see before purchasing something like the Zenbook.

 

[pandamonia]

I can afford it for sure . Do I need it? No.
I'm talking about the RetinaPro cause I think its not worth it... who need powerhouse laptops these days (its a minority!). If you really need this powerful hardware than you will most likely work on an external screen which makes the Retina-Screen useless.

Somebody said that the rMBP is a 2200€ Facebook machine and I need to agree with this guy at some point... I guess 20-30% of the buyers do even know what a virtual machine is...

There are Musicians/DJ's and App-Programmers who really need OSX... those guys don't need good hardware in most cases. So who is the Retina-Macbook meant for? Defiantly not for Photo editors... cause the Retina-Screen will affect the photo appearance when viewed on a normal full HD screen, who has a 2k Screen at home? So basically you edit a Photo on 2k and render it on HD, so where is the reason for using 2k?

The technology is not ready for such a high screen resolution on a computer device and everyone who uses the retina Macbook will limit himself in usage, cause the software will need to get upgraded to that resolution which can takes months (or even years, who knows).

Regarding my question who the Retina-Macbook meant for:

Journalists and Coders.
They stare at monitors for hours and the Retina-Screen will reduce Eye strain. The funny thing is that both do not need the hardware, but there is no alternative on the market as a 13 inch (Zenbook) for example is too small do be viewed for several hours.

For the majority the Retina Macbook is a waste of money, and is defiantly a waste of money for a student. That's all I'm saying.



Alright lets talk some serious business, where does the rMBP outperforms a UX32VD (when the device is attached with SSD and 10GB RAM).

1. Net-Browsing -> No!
2. Writing/Coding -> No!
3. Rendering -> No!
4. Photo Editing -> No!
5. Video Editing -> Yes!
6. 3D Programming (who does that on a 15inch screen??) -> Yes!
6. Gaming -> Yes!

...it does not look like it outperforms the Zenbook in every aspect!
The Retina-Macbook wins in those situations which are only important for a small minority. But oh well... there are those Gamers! Well Gamers, they need this device for sure If you compare both, the Air and the Zenbook, than it comes to the same conclusion, but the display of the Asus device is the deal breaker in that case.

Ill be using mine for browsing the interwebz and playing the odd game and thats about it.

Pandamonia is my name, Overkill is my game.

 

[zerotiu]

I can afford it for sure . Do I need it? No.
I'm talking about the RetinaPro cause I think its not worth it... who need powerhouse laptops these days (its a minority!). If you really need this powerful hardware than you will most likely work on an external screen which makes the Retina-Screen useless.

Somebody said that the rMBP is a 2200€ Facebook machine and I need to agree with this guy at some point... I guess 20-30% of the buyers do even know what a virtual machine is...

There are Musicians/DJ's and App-Programmers who really need OSX... those guys don't need good hardware in most cases. So who is the Retina-Macbook meant for? Defiantly not for Photo editors... cause the Retina-Screen will affect the photo appearance when viewed on a normal full HD screen, who has a 2k Screen at home? So basically you edit a Photo on 2k and render it on HD, so where is the reason for using 2k?

The technology is not ready for such a high screen resolution on a computer device and everyone who uses the retina Macbook will limit himself in usage, cause the software will need to get upgraded to that resolution which can takes months.

Regarding me question who the Retina-Macbook meant for:

Journalists and Coders.
They stare at monitors for hours and the Retina-Screen will reduce Eye strain. The funny thing is that both do not need the hardware, but there is no alternative on the market as a 13 inch (Zenbook) for example is too small do be viewed for several hours.

For the majority the Retina Macbook is a waste of money, and is defiantly a waste of money for a student. That's all I'm saying.



Alright lets talk some serious business, where does the rMBP outperforms a UX32VD (when the device is attached with SSD and 10GB RAM).

1. Net-Browsing -> No!
2. Writing/Coding -> No!
3. Rendering -> No!
4. Photo Editing -> No!
5. Video Editing -> Yes!
6. Gaming -> Yes!

1st: You are talking about market. For you, you don't need retina because you categorizing yourself not into retina market. That's why you can say : "I'm talking about the RetinaPro cause I think its not worth it... who need powerhouse laptops these days (its a minority!)."

I've ordered retina, this is my reason : I need to upgrade from my current MPB early 08. In short, only 15" MBP / rMBP suits my requirement. 15" MBP is 2.54kgs. It's even heavier than my current 08MBP. That's why I go rMBP. About the lag bla bla bla, 10 years for being Apple customer, I believe they will solve this. Yes, it takes time but it's okay.

2nd: Retina MBP is a new combination. With that big display, hardware, design and unstable OS to support retina. When it is all stable (it will..), photographers and videographers will change to rMBP.

3rd: Again. One must think about operating system before choosing a computer :
= any kind of job + windows = windows based pc/laptop
= any kind of job + mac + not retina = MBA /MBP
= any kind of job + mac + retina = rMBP

both can run linux, so I don't put it into consideration. So, student or not. Choose the OS first. We are all student for all our entire life. Choose which OS suits you.

GOOOOOD hardware with OS that you don't like =not satisifed.
so-so hardware with OS you like = boost mood and efficiency
good hardware with OS you like = YOUR TRUE LOVE

For me, debating about hardware inside windows based computer and OSX based computer is very weird....... in fact, windows based computer will win easily if you compare the hardware.

 

[charpi]

For me, debating about hardware inside windows based computer and OSX based computer is very weird....... in fact, windows based computer will win easily if you compare the hardware.

Agree on this. Any time people ask me for advice for what computer to get I'd say a Mac because I love their hardware-software combination. But if he says no due to some reason (Cost, Apple hater, etc). I would recommend this laptop to be honest.

 

[Sahee]

Of course there are people waiting for the 13" rMBP and they would probably wait until pricing/specs to see before purchasing something like the Zenbook.

...and that's what I'm doing .
I need my new device till October, lets see if something like the 13inch Retina is on the road till then and if not... maybe prices will drop for the Zenbook as it is a Windows machine, so its a win/win situation.

...but right now (regarding my preferences):
Zenbook UX32VD > Macbook Retina.

There are already rumors that the 13inch retina has a scaled resolution of 1200*800, when this is true than it is out of the race. I don't want to sacrifice so much display space just for better looking pixels.

So I'm guessing a large difference here is the price difference between europe and the US. In the US, the base price is 1700 euros. The student discounted price is 1500 euros, for the base machine. Now if you say that the base system is 2200 euros and you don't get a student discount (?? I thought you did in europe), then I can see why you think the Asus is so much cheaper.

I will also say that my #1 priority is portability. I don't want to have to use an external monitor. I don't want to use a desktop. I need an all around machine that can handle various uses. I am willing to sacrifice some performance for portability. I was planning to buy a MBP for nearly a year and wanted a new form factor. For me, the retina is a minor detail.

And why do you think the coders wouldn't enjoy having 4 processors to compile/test code on?

I personally plan to start some personal projects after my current class ends (condensed summer class + full time job = no personal projects). I plan to work with large data sets and I'll be appreciative to use a system that can quickly run through the data.

I do get the student discount, which basically make the rMBP to be priced at 2000€+80€ gift card. But not everybody can take that discount into considerations, that's why I left it out of the comparison. I can actually get the Zenbook with student discount (instead of 1000€ it cost me about 900€), but there are company's who already sale it for that price... so it is not necessary.

 

[leenak]

I can afford it for sure . Do I need it? No.
I'm talking about the RetinaPro cause I think its not worth it... who need powerhouse laptops these days (its a minority!). If you really need this powerful hardware than you will most likely work on an external screen which makes the Retina-Screen useless.

Somebody said that the rMBP is a 2200€ Facebook machine and I need to agree with this guy at some point... I guess 20-30% of the buyers do even know what a virtual machine is...

So I'm guessing a large difference here is the price difference between europe and the US. In the US, the base price is 1700 euros. The student discounted price is 1500 euros, for the base machine. Now if you say that the base system is 2200 euros and you don't get a student discount (?? I thought you did in europe), then I can see why you think the Asus is so much cheaper.

I will also say that my #1 priority is portability. I don't want to have to use an external monitor. I don't want to use a desktop. I need an all around machine that can handle various uses. I am willing to sacrifice some performance for portability. I was planning to buy a MBP for nearly a year and wanted a new form factor. For me, the retina is a minor detail.

And why do you think the coders wouldn't enjoy having 4 processors to compile/test code on?

I personally plan to start some personal projects after my current class ends (condensed summer class + full time job = no personal projects). I plan to work with large data sets and I'll be appreciative to use a system that can quickly run through the data.

Oh and I forgot to add that I have tried a variety of Windows-based laptops over the years and have found the quality lacking. It is the primary reason that I am switching to Apple. I hear many stories about people with MacBooks that just keep going and going and going. Meanwhile my HP, Sony, Dell, etc systems seem to fall apart within 2 years.

 

[Melons]

Yes lets compare two computers that have almost nothing in common. MBP is 15" UX32VD 13", thats one reason you can never compare them.

But buy your UX32VD with that great screen, that suffers from extreme bleeding btw. Also enjoy that touchpad, which is probably 1/10th of the one on the mbp. To even make it remotely fast you have to buy an SSD and more memory, because the bloated windows install that comes with the computer is worse the anything ive ever seen.

But be our guest and go with the UX32VD, since you have no clue what you are talking about i bet you will be satisfied.

 

[cmChimera]

This topic is so fail. Go get whatever computer you want. We don't really care about your faulty reasoning for you purchase.

 

[Sahee]

Yes lets compare two computers that have almost nothing in common. MBP is 15" UX32VD 13", thats one reason you can never compare them.

But buy your UX32VD with that great screen, that suffers from extreme bleeding btw. Also enjoy that touchpad, which is probably 1/10th of the one on the mbp. To even make it remotely fast you have to buy an SSD and more memory, because the bloated windows install that comes with the computer is worse the anything ive ever seen.

But be our guest and go with the UX32VD, since you have no clue what you are talking about i bet you will be satisfied.

I never harassed anyone with my initial posting and yet I get mostly negative responses. It seems like its not possible to have a neutral conversation on this forum.

Regarding your post:
Every Backlight-LED has the characteristic (/chance) to suffer from bleeding... it seems like "you" have no idea what you are talking about.... just search the web for "Retina-Problems" trust me, you will see "A LOT". There is ghosting... there are even Burn-Ins. Every other laptop would be crushed, but when the 2200€ Laptop from Apple suffers from Burn-In's, than that's okay!

Why is the Touchpad not comparable to Mac? Because it is not covered by glass? Well... its a Multitouch Touchpad anyway and I bet you rarely (never?) used a Multitouch Touchpad on Linux. Windows 8 will have very good Multitouch support.

....and now it gets even more funny:
You say that the Asus Zenbook comes with "bloated" windows software. Well, if you are not able to solve this problem than be sure to stay with your mac... windows would over strain you!

Microsoft learned from its mistakes with vista and windows 7 was only the beginning... windows 8 and windows revolution will be extremely good operating systems with many new functions (for example better scaling options and registry).

This topic is so fail. Go get whatever computer you want. We don't really care about your faulty reasoning for you purchase.

Why are you posting, when you got nothing constructive to say? Just wanted to flame?
Which "fault" reasoning do you mean exactly? Enlighten me please

I've read many posting from students who want to justify a Retina-Macbook purchase and that's basically why I compare those both devices. The Zenbook costs 50% less and solves the same purposes, its not intended for gaming and never will. Video Editing should be possible with some downsides. The Hardware of the Macbook-Retina is over sized (for a portable system) and it needs to be, cause of the display.

Mac were never intended for gaming, but due to the hype many Gamers jump on the train. Its funny how many people buy the rMBP for "GAMING". Well... money seems to fall from tree's these days.

...AND again I "DO have the money to make the purchase but that does not mean that I "HAVE" to, why do many people think that this equals the same?? I am not a "poor" student but yet I do care about my money investments.

Oh and I forgot to add that I have tried a variety of Windows-based laptops over the years and have found the quality lacking. It is the primary reason that I am switching to Apple. I hear many stories about people with MacBooks that just keep going and going and going. Meanwhile my HP, Sony, Dell, etc systems seem to fall apart within 2 years.

After a critical water damage I made the experiment to put my old Lenovo Thinkpad (with Pentium processor) into my baking oven. I wanted to see if it survives. After 5minutes at about 110-115F the places which were inflicted by the damage were nearly repaired... after overall 10 minutes the laptop was fixed and has not been inflicted by damage.

I never had any Software problems running Windows 7 though... (...but Windows Vista was junk).

 

[Fortimir]

I never harassed anyone with my initial posting and yet I get mostly negative responses. It seems like its not possible to have a neutral conversation on this forum.

Again, you are getting flack because you won't admit that you are comparing two laptops in different classes, and are still trying to argue that the one in the lesser class is the best choice because you can upgrade (some) of it.

A 13" Asus is a fair fight against a 13" Air. The Asus vs. a MacBook Pro is a stupid fight to pick.

Compound this with your bias-riddled "review", and you have your answer as to why you are not being well-received here.

 

[Jiten]

Looks like you simply want to justify your decision to buy the Zenbook and looking for some sort of affirmation from others.

 

[KohPhiPhi]

Let's be honest guys: the Asus is a FANTASTIC competitor to the MBA-13" (it's not a competitor to the 15" rMBP), and in many fields it gives the Air a run for its money (GPU, screen, cost, etc).

It's all about the OS: if you don't mind Windows, go for the Asus as it's a far better value machine than the Air. In the other hand, if you prefer OSX (like me), then you only have one choice so you gotta pay up the premium price.

But again, the Asus Zen is *VERY* good machine at a *VERY* good price... and this comes from a rabid Apple fan!

 

[Fortimir]

Let's be honest guys: the Asus is a FANTASTIC competitor to the MBA-13"

Agreed 100%. I would never deny the Zenbooks are great, and I'd absolutely look into one if I were looking for a Windows laptop.

 

[Sahee]

Again, you are getting flack because you won't admit that you are comparing two laptops in different classes, and are still trying to argue that the one in the lesser class is the best choice because you can upgrade (some) of it.

A 13" Asus is a fair fight against a 13" Air. The Asus vs. a MacBook Pro is a stupid fight to pick.

Compound this with your bias-riddled "review", and you have your answer as to why you are not being well-received here.

I've updated the main post. Hope you are getting satisfied now .
My review is not bias-riddled, its just that the Zenbook is a very good device and that rarely happens with windows laptops (aside from some HP/DELL portable devices.) Its the best for Value and should be considered as an option when you are in the market for a new laptop device.

 

[Fortimir]

its just that the Zenbook is a very good device and that rarely happens with windows laptops (aside from some HP/DELL portable devices.) Its the best for Value and should be considered as an option when you are in the market for a new laptop device.

I agree absolutely 100%. The Zenbook is a great laptop, especially when you factor in the price. It also gives the Air a run for the money in many ways... but the elephant in the room is OS X.

 

[Sahee]

Update: First post has been attached with a poll.

Looks like you simply want to justify your decision to buy the Zenbook and looking for some sort of affirmation from others.

I thought this board is meant for discussion? This is a comparison between 3 devices, nothing else. What I do buy in the future is not the topic of this thread, if I should buy the said device than I would buy it regardless of what road this thread would go, trust me...