At $3,500, will you buy a Vision Pro?

[Table Top Joe]

I've been waiting for this kind of thing since I saw "Back To The Future II" at ten years of age.....will I pay 3.5k? (once its in Europe)....I don't know, but I'll sure as **** be buying it when the "cheaper" one shows up and I cannot wait!

This is revolutionary stuff, I can understand people being sceptical about Apple Watch and AirPods when they showed up.....but this thing?? this is extraordinary and we're only at the beginning of it all really.

I bought some AAPL recently and Ill be buying much more before this is out in the wild in a year or so (non pro version) which I reckon will pay for the thing at some stage!

 

[Jamester23]

The tech seems cool. But it's a gimmick. For me, I'd probably only use it on a plane (if I can find a movie I like under two hours). Steve Jobs is up there losing his marbles over another Tim Cook approved half baked idea. Two hour battery is up there with the need to jam the apple pencil in the bottom of the iPad. Hard no for me. At $500 I'd give it a shot.

 

[hch720]

Right now my plan is to buy it. If I don’t like it within 14 days I’m returning this thing.

There are going to be a LOT of people trying to do just that.

Given how expensive and delicate this thing is along with how difficult it is to manufacture, I would not be surprised if Apple said they don’t accept returns for the vision pro.

It is hard to imagine this making it to the certified refurbished store.

 

[jimbobb24]

For The same price you can get:
1)PS5
2)PSVR2
3)Extended thunderbolt USB cable
4)Bunch of games
5)Buy something else with half of the money Vision cost

Also with this amount of px per eye I highly doubt it will be same quality they showed. You will have mora effect, tiny pixels visible and maybe other things as resolution is very close to PSVR2

Except no one who tried it reported those issues and almost all of them have used a PSVR2. They simply said it was leaps beyond the competition.

 

[Beau10]

There are going to be a LOT of people trying to do just that.

Given how expensive and delicate this thing is along with how difficult it is to manufacture, I would not be surprised if Apple said they don’t accept returns for the vision pro.

It is hard to imagine this making it to the certified refurbished store.

How do we know it’s delicate? It’s certainly a complex/sophisticated product, but it appears to be a solidly built device.

I agree not so much because of the list price (ie. the same as a stock 16” MBP Max variant) but because of the # produced, which is a fairly small number of what, 100k?

If production wasn’t an issue there is some benefit for Apple to get as much exposure as possible if this is a truly revolutionary product - more so the people who *can’t* afford this first iteration, because they’re most likely going to drive the future direction of this product. This first iteration is mostly going to tech/devs and rich people. The BOM is less than half the retail price, so it’s not like 15% off is really hurting their bottom line.

 

[Night Spring]

Going to try it out , hopefully by launch they will have great content to showcase , as this was a 30 min demo to try and cover some aspects they thought Is important , I want to know the content that will be available , the "sit court side for an NBA game" is a platform seller if its done in high quality , as today nothing can do it in a way you can enjoy it.
If on day1 there will be enough content , im probably biting the bullet for this one !!
What I would love is to have it working with a racing simulator of some sort , iRacing , AC 2 , that is also an insta buy for me if its good.

Hard to know right now - will wait until content is developed by third parties like Disney and others.

If you are looking for content that's 3D or virtual reality, you might be waiting a long time and/or disappointed.

But there is already a lot of content available for it on day one. Didn't they say it can run iOS apps? That means content from the entire iOS App Store is available for the Vision Pro. No it isn't 3D/VR, but I'm thinking plenty of iOS games will look impressive when blown up on a room-sized virtual screen.

 

[addamas]

Except no one who tried it reported those issues and almost all of them have used a PSVR2. They simply said it was leaps beyond the competition.

We will see. For now I doubt that these reviews are not paid for hype. All big companies are paying to hide issues and mistakes by just saying big words without details.

However as a tester I would like to be wrong

 

[hch720]

How do we know it’s delicate? It’s certainly a complex/sophisticated product, but it appears to be a solidly built device.

No way I’ll be able to throw this thing around like I do my 14” macbook or iPhone.

I agree not so much because of the list price (ie. the same as a stock 16” MBP Max variant) but because of the # produced, which is a fairly small number of what, 100k?

Agreed

 

[spinedoc77]

I don't think so, but I don't know what Apple's profit margin is here. I doubt they sell anywhere near of say a $3500 mac computer as they sell a $1k iPhone, but that doesn't stop them from selling them and realizing a profit. This is just version 1.0 meant for developers and to stimulate interest, it's really not meant for typical consumers.

 

[jimbobb24]

The price is unhinged delusional greed on Apple's part.

It’s the cheapest of the high end sets. The best VR headset is $7000. The HoloLens (which this appears far superior to) ranges from 3.5-10k.

The price is maybe a tiny bit more as the apple tax but it’s competitive in its space.

 

[Djken]

I’m a monitor/ screen person, not wanna walk around with glasses on my head the whole day. Had VR gave me Eyestrain. Also $3500 I rather buy the newest MacBook

 

[cardfan]

I don't think so, but I don't know what Apple's profit margin is here. I doubt they sell anywhere near of say a $3500 mac computer as they sell a $1k iPhone, but that doesn't stop them from selling them and realizing a profit. This is just version 1.0 meant for developers and to stimulate interest, it's really not meant for typical consumers.

Name anything pro introduced that’s gone down in price. A vision pro will never be meant for typical consumers.

 

[frownface]

God no.

While i do ok financially, that's a heck of a lot of money without much perceived benefit. Plus my kids would bust it within a week.

 

[AlixSPQR]

What horror?

Especially that your eyes and parts of the face can be ”visible” on the visor. It gives me the chills.

 

[Abazigal]

For The same price you can get:
1)PS5
2)PSVR2
3)Extended thunderbolt USB cable
4)Bunch of games
5)Buy something else with half of the money Vision cost

Also with this amount of px per eye I highly doubt it will be same quality they showed. You will have mora effect, tiny pixels visible and maybe other things as resolution is very close to PSVR2

I can also get 2-3 android phones for the price of an iPhone.

Being able to get more for my money doesn’t mean much if it isn’t giving me more of what I want. In this case, it seems like Apple is selling its users immersion with a premium headset that should offer an experience far superior to anything else in the market.

This is probably where they are going with their marketing strategy. They will never be able to beat Facebook or Sony in terms of pricing, so instead, they are shooting for the high end and going “yes, there are cheaper alternatives out there, but you will get our product if you want the best and are willing to pay for the best”.

 

[Zanton68]

If it was free I might have one just to try it out, but no idea what I’d actually use it for 🤔

 

[Beau10]

I can also get 2-3 android phones for the price of an iPhone.

Being able to get more for my money doesn’t mean much if it isn’t giving me more of what I want. In this case, it seems like Apple is selling its users immersion with a premium headset that should offer an experience far superior to anything else in the market.

This is probably where they are going with their marketing strategy. They will never be able to beat Facebook or Sony in terms of pricing, so instead, they are shooting for the high end and going “yes, there are cheaper alternatives out there, but you will get our product if you want the best and are willing to pay for the best”.

It’s more than that though… if this is truly revolutionary, life-changing tech, you can’t add up enough devices in the world to match it. This appears to go way beyond any other VR headsets out there.

My biggest gripe with it is the whole 3d TV boom from 12-13 years ago. There was alot of hype, many devices, many people using it, including myself. I enjoyed it for a year but then stopped bothering putting the glasses on, like many others.

And those were far less bulky/troublesome to use. I do feel like this is paving the way to the future, but I wonder if that future ends up being immersive environments that don’t require the use of peripherals to achieve, like envisioned in the movie Her… or maybe neural implants (yuck).

 

[ericwn]

Especially that your eyes and parts of the face can be ”visible” on the visor. It gives me the chills.

But I thought that occurs exactly in a situation where the wearer would be able to see the outside folks anyway. Isn’t it comforting to know if the wearer is fully immersed at a time when they are being approached?

 

[Ledgem]

My initial thought was: no, it's about $2,000 more than I expected and that's too much for an unproven technology.

But as I read the reviews and thought more about it, I feel increasingly excited. These days, I rarely get to sit down in front of my large-screen TV or my dual-screen computer. I'm often compromising by using an iPad or a MacBook. If I could have one large virtual screen, or even multiple, anywhere that I was in my home? That would be a game-changer. I could get so much more done. I could chip away at projects that have been waiting months and years.

The big question is what the limitations will be for this first-generation device. We know you can control a Mac and have a larger virtual screen, but can you make it two (or more) virtual screens even if there was only one physical screen? Is the larger screen just magnified, or is it actually a larger working resolution? How far away can you be from your Mac? Can this interaction also occur with iPads? How many iOS apps will be functional in RealityOS even without native versions?

I expect the answers to be fairly restrictive at launch, meaning I probably won't be able to justify the purchase. But if I could control my desktop Mac from anywhere in my home, emulating my two large monitors (or perhaps even emulating something larger)? Day one purchase.

 

[AlixSPQR]

But I thought that occurs exactly in a situation where the wearer would be able to see the outside folks anyway. Isn’t it comforting to know if the wearer is fully immersed at a time when they are being approached?

No, not for me. 😨

 

[iMarkypad]

Count me as a maybe. It’s expensive, but it seems like Apple has put of a lot of fancy technology in it and may have some new use cases for it.

Its not for consumers, its for professionals at the minute. When they release a consumer one then I might consider.

 

[floral]

$3500 is a year's worth of rent? Where do you live?

Somewhere magical.
...yeah I honestly don't know what the rent rate is. I was guessing

 

[ericwn]

No, not for me.

You’d rather they’d talk to a black piece of glass in a situation when you can actually see them? I find that a bit more creepy for the non wearer but personal preference I guess.

 

[AlixSPQR]

You’d rather they’d talk to a black piece of glass in a situation when you can actually see them? I find that a bit more creepy for the non wearer but personal preference I guess.

Since the visor is opaque it is perfectly natural not to see the wearer's eyes. But opinions will differ, I grant you that.

 

[mattopotamus]

I'm on the fence, but at least I have 6+ months to ponder the decision. I am super interested in it for movies alone. I have a home theater and watch a lot of content solo. I am very curious how this will stack up. The more immersive the better.