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AT&T Activates 2.7 Million iPhones in Q1 2010 as Growth Slows
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A lot of people don't care, as we can easily tell from Verizon's larger customer base.
If it's a requirement for someone and that person has to be on Verizon, then using a VoIP client like Skype allows simultaneous voice and data, albeit not as conveniently.
In the case of the iPhone 4G, something like iChat could (and probably would) use just the data channel for both voice and visual. If so, then the user should have data acess during the video call even on CDMA.
Re: Cdma Iphone
Ladies and Gentlemen,
Please correct me if I am wrong, but as far as I understand the technology CDMA could not even support the IPHONE. Your either on a phone call or sending an email. The GSM technology and AT&T touts that you can be on a phone call and and be on the web at the same time because of the technology and signals they run. Again please correct me if I am wrong, but VERIZON customers should realize that an IPHONE will not come to fruition unless VERIZON moves to GSM.
Not to mention it would be a very bad business model for APPLE to design and spend millions of dollars into a second redesigned phone just for a few million possible US customers. The numbers don't work out. The rest of the world runs GSM. Other companies in the US using old technology from when cell phones first came out need to start changing their networks over.
Not only would everyone have a chance to get an IPHONE then, but hey maybe all the issues with network coverage would go away by sharing their coverage areas.
JAY
Maybe people are waiting for a Verizon iPhone
Ladies and Gentlemen,
Please correct me if I am wrong, but as far as I understand the technology CDMA could not even support the IPHONE. Your either on a phone call or sending an email. The GSM technology and AT&T touts that you can be on a phone call and and be on the web at the same time because of the technology and signals they run. Again please correct me if I am wrong, but VERIZON customers should realize that an IPHONE will not come to fruition unless VERIZON moves to GSM.
Not to mention it would be a very bad business model for APPLE to design and spend millions of dollars into a second redesigned phone just for a few million possible US customers. The numbers don't work out. The rest of the world runs GSM. Other companies in the US using old technology from when cell phones first came out need to start changing their networks over.
Not only would everyone have a chance to get an IPHONE then, but hey maybe all the issues with network coverage would go away by sharing their coverage areas.
JAY
Apple traditionally releases new iPhones in Q3. They sell the most in iPhones in that quarter every year. No surprise there.
That's why we compare quarters per year and not sequentially.
a couple million? Try like 65+ million. Release a CDMA phone in July-October timeframe, and then another in 2011 w/LTE. Verizon could do voice over data if they wanted to.
Ladies and Gentlemen,
Please correct me if I am wrong, but as far as I understand the technology CDMA could not even support the IPHONE. Your either on a phone call or sending an email. The GSM technology and AT&T touts that you can be on a phone call and and be on the web at the same time because of the technology and signals they run. Again please correct me if I am wrong, but VERIZON customers should realize that an IPHONE will not come to fruition unless VERIZON moves to GSM.
Not to mention it would be a very bad business model for APPLE to design and spend millions of dollars into a second redesigned phone just for a few million possible US customers. The numbers don't work out. The rest of the world runs GSM. Other companies in the US using old technology from when cell phones first came out need to start changing their networks over.
Not only would everyone have a chance to get an IPHONE then, but hey maybe all the issues with network coverage would go away by sharing their coverage areas.
JAY
I'd love to see your source that it would cost "millions of dollars" to throw a CDMA chip into a phone. Every other carrier has had no problem doing it, and they don't have near the cash flow Apple has. A few that come to mind include: Palm, RIM, Nokia, Motorola, HTC.
Besides, why would a CDMA carrier switch to GSM when GSM is a dying technology?
I would love to see the iPhone come to T-Mobile. I get very good reception on my Motorola dumbphone on T-Mobile at home, but zero bars with AT&T.
The fact is, this is the last year most non-AT&T subscribers will be willing to wait for the iPhone. And if it doesn't come, a few will switch once and for all while the majority will re-up with the Incredible or Evo. And once they're locked into Android, will they really be that likely to switch to Apple once LTE is finally widespread? Note how positive Engadget's software review was for the Incredible.
I honestly think Apple's making a mistake here if they insist on remaining exclusive.
I honestly think Apple's making a mistake here if they insist on remaining exclusive.
Ladies and Gentlemen,
Please correct me if I am wrong, but as far as I understand the technology CDMA could not even support the IPHONE. Your either on a phone call or sending an email. The GSM technology and AT&T touts that you can be on a phone call and and be on the web at the same time....
JAY
This "tech" has always underwhelmed me. Certainly not in my top 5 reasons why I love my iPhone.
Which is why I don't think Verizon base would have a problem with it. It's no big deal.
Ladies and Gentlemen,
Please correct me if I am wrong, but as far as I understand the technology CDMA could not even support the IPHONE. Your either on a phone call or sending an email. The GSM technology and AT&T touts that you can be on a phone call and and be on the web at the same time because of the technology and signals they run. Again please correct me if I am wrong, but VERIZON customers should realize that an IPHONE will not come to fruition unless VERIZON moves to GSM.
Not to mention it would be a very bad business model for APPLE to design and spend millions of dollars into a second redesigned phone just for a few million possible US customers. The numbers don't work out. The rest of the world runs GSM. Other companies in the US using old technology from when cell phones first came out need to start changing their networks over.
Not only would everyone have a chance to get an IPHONE then, but hey maybe all the issues with network coverage would go away by sharing their coverage areas.
JAY
You just called a lot of attention to yourself and Im pretty sure theres not much in this post that is right. You know how much revenue Apple could bring in from selling to "a few million" US customers. Think about how much profit margin they rake in on every phone. It would FAR outweigh CDMA development costs. Also, CDMA is just another option than GSM. There really arent that different, they just arent compatible. Both CDMA and GSM are going to be going away pretty soon.
Something I was just wondering; couldn't Gizmo look at the equipment and see if it was GSM or CDMA? That would have been bigger news than finding out the processor...
That's entirely the point. Apple's overall iPhone sales did actually increase from the holiday quarter, while AT&T activations fell.
Is AT&T tapped out? No. The iPhone is certainly still growing at a healthy rate on AT&T, but there are signs that things are slowing...greater international growth than domestic, new AT&T customers representing a smaller proportion of activations, etc.
This is incorrect. Fortune initially calculated that Cook's comments meant 2 million iPhones sold in China over the past six months (Note: not just the past quarter), but even that was incorrect, as his comments referred to all China sales for Apple, not specifically the iPhone. So maybe 500,000 iPhones sold in China last quarter as a rough estimate.
If it had been at or near 40%, they would have said so. If it had been at or near 35%, they likely would have said so. So it's almost certainly only slightly more than 33.3%. And yes, that it is a quite significant drop from 40%.
I spent 65 minutes on the phone with AT&T Customer service yesterday talking about all the dropped calls. I was hoping it happened, and it did: 20 minutes in the phone call, it dropped. She called back and said "I don't know what happened there . . ." I said, "Oh, I do. AT&T's network dropped my call."
I will run to the Verizon store if they ever get the iphone. It's worth any early termination fee.
I will run to the Verizon store if they ever get the iphone. It's worth any early termination fee.
Albeit much slower data seeing as how the connection is being split into video+audio and data transfer.
That would make it EDGE class slow since as fast as Verizon can be at times, a single 2.8Mb/s won't hold ground when its sending live audiovisual feed and the end user is also trying to open a web page. Specially if the phone is slow and bounded by RAM and CPU constraints.
Makes sense.
T-Mobile is next.....same GSM technology, same iPhone.
Verizon and Sprint won't see the iPhone until their 4G Networks are built out enough not to rely on CDMA as the backup. This won't happen until 2013-2014.
All this talk about Verizon being next is wishful thinking and/or stock manipulation.
T-Mobile is next.....same GSM technology, same iPhone.
Verizon and Sprint won't see the iPhone until their 4G Networks are built out enough not to rely on CDMA as the backup. This won't happen until 2013-2014.
All this talk about Verizon being next is wishful thinking and/or stock manipulation.
AT&T today announced financial results for the first quarter of 2010, revealing that the carrier activated 2.7 million iPhones during the quarter. The number is down from 3.1 million in the previous quarter, despite Apple announcing yesterday that it had sold 8.75 million iPhones overall during the quarter, an increase of approximately 15,000 units over the prior quarter.
The results illustrate that international growth is a primary driver for the iPhone as AT&T begins to experience a slowing of its portion of the overall growth. The iPhone's ability to attract new customers to AT&T has also begun to slip, as the company noted that "more than one-third" of its iPhone activations for the quarter came from customers new to the carrier, down from a 40% figure the company has consistently cited in past earnings releases.
Signs of slowing iPhone growth for AT&T are likely to add to the clamor for Apple to extend distribution to additional carriers in the United States, with market leader Verizon having received the most attention in recent years despite the requirement that Apple offer specialized hardware to operate on the carrier's current network. For its part, Apple executives noted during yesterday's earnings conference call that the U.S., Germany, and Spain remain the company's three major markets where the iPhone is offered in exclusive carrier relationships. Despite that fact that the company has seen increased unit sales and market share in countries where it had moved to a multi-carrier model, however, it is not convinced that that dynamic would play out everywhere. Consequently, Apple continues to evaluate its carrier relationships on a country-by-country basis.
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Ahhh... This is so annoying, MacRumors. There is absolutely no link between a marginal slip in customer recruitment and a Verizon/Apple iPhone deal. Stop trying to stir up the readers, stop trying to justify your existance.
/rant
100% agree. It's Apple's call. People who will switch have had 3 years to do so...and have done so already. A fourth iPhone comes out, and still only on AT&T, not even for GSM T-Mobile, and you will see the end of the large scale switching. The only people upgrading will be AT&T customers. People are not willing to wait any longer, there is real competition now--the iPhone isn't the only good smartphone platform around like it was in 2007-2008, and those people who don't switch will invest themselves in Android apps by the time Apple finally decides to give consumers real carrier choice.
The funny thing is, expanding carriers, helps those who love their AT&T service by lowering their monthly bills. Unless they like overpaying, competition can only help everybody.
