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AT&T Blocking Out June 15-July 15 for iPhone Launch
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Ya. It's amazing people can only remember about a weeks worth of history. When the RAZR first came out, it was $500, and $800 unlocked. I personally think the iPhone is a good deal.
I don't know about your comments being snarky, but it's only been 6 months, according to your post, since Cingular has been touted as the NEW AT&T. Has that been enough time to brainwash the new brand into the mind of the consumers?
Hell, it's just now the democrats in Congress are calling the mess in Iraq as all but lost. But it was funny how in the spring/summer before the elections they were stressing that there was not enouogh troops to do the job. Why didn't more troops go in? Military leaders on the ground in Iraq didn't want more troops because their presence would agitate the Iraqi populace, supposedly. Now, we are told that we can't be involved in Iraq's civil war. But who fomented the Iraqies into this secular violence? Al-Qaeda in Iraq by doing things like the Golden Mosque bombing, etc. According to the dems, the war is lost even though their concerns of last year regarding more troops has not been fully implemented. So if we pull out of Iraq's so called civil war, ergo, Al-Qaeda defeats America?
But this "lost" mentality doesn't resonate overnight. It needs collusion of the individual democrats in congress along with the help of repetition by the mainstream media. It is the only way to brainwash the will of the people. As is the need to say "Cingular is the New AT&T", they have to brand that into peoples minds and it must be spoken often and repeated often. You got it right off the bat, congratulations, but AT&T wants to make sure others get it as well.
Yes, other laptops can do this. What I've been wanting Apple to do for a while is have a new special slot inside the computer, much like the airport card slot. This way you could stick a card in there for which ever carrier you wanted. And you wouldn't have to use your express card slot.
Summer - Small deal
Why don't they just choose to work hard for Summer and come out to New Zealand in their winter for our summer? A great reason to start saving and make a go of travelling to see the world they live amongst, except their iPhone won't work here for probably a few years, shame that.
Why don't they just choose to work hard for Summer and come out to New Zealand in their winter for our summer? A great reason to start saving and make a go of travelling to see the world they live amongst, except their iPhone won't work here for probably a few years, shame that.
yes, and somehow people forget that even ipods were that expensive at one point. i paid $600 for my ipod photo. was that crazy expensive for an ipod? yup, but you gotta pay to play on the cutting edge of technology. this time next year they will be $350-400.
Yep, and on top of that, the cool technology in the iPhone will obviously trickle down to the iPods (i.e., a high-end iPod with the widescreen and the touch interface and maybe some wifi stuff but without the phone features) which will likely spur high-end iPod sales. That's where Apple is going to have a crutch that the other smart phone makers don't. Those features may catch people's interest enough to make them consider jumping to the iPhone in the long-term. People may start talking about the iPhone halo effect moving even more high-end iPods and vice-versa. Hell, I have no interest in the iPhone as I generally detest carrying phones around with me to begin with, but if Apple were to introduce a $400-$450 iPod with all the rest of the iPhone's features, I'd be first in line. And that's saying a lot. As it stands, I wouldn't spend more than $300 on an iPod.
I think they should keep going with the "Cingular is the new AT&T" slogan for another year and a half. That way, they'll have been changing it as long as the old AT&T was Cingular.
As for the vacation blackout, the only thing it means is that you'll have to wait longer on hold after July 15th. Oh wait, it's "The New AT&T", you'll have to wait on hold a ridiculous amount of time anyway.
I am anxiously awaiting the iPhone. But there's a part of me that just doesn't want to spend that kind of money. I'm hoping that AT&T will see the value in dropping the price for a long time customer who has never upgraded his phone.
As for the vacation blackout, the only thing it means is that you'll have to wait longer on hold after July 15th. Oh wait, it's "The New AT&T", you'll have to wait on hold a ridiculous amount of time anyway.
I am anxiously awaiting the iPhone. But there's a part of me that just doesn't want to spend that kind of money. I'm hoping that AT&T will see the value in dropping the price for a long time customer who has never upgraded his phone.
Oh, shut up. You're talking like their employees are all robots designed to be the ultimate selling machines. They're people, dude. They have lives, families, things they like to do outside of work, etc. To set aside an ENTIRE month to where NONE of their employees can take time off just shows what kind of company they are, only worried about their bottom line. Yeah, its gonna be busy. But, they should have taken the necessary steps to ensure things would go smoothly by bringing more people in, instead of screwing their current crop of employees for the summer. They've certainly had time.
"Sorry kids, we cant go on that vacation this year because daddy has to sell some iPhones".
Do you have a REAL job? Do you have a family of your own that depend on you?? If not, then zip it, junior. People in the USA are way to focused on work anyways. Look at European countries & you will see what I mean. A full time work week there is like 30-35 hours & a CRAPLOAD of vacation time.
That's a bit of a generalisation about Europe. France famously has a 35-hour week, but it looks like it's on its way out (their Presidential Election is today). And the USA has federal laws mandating 1.5x overtime pay, which would be nice.
On the other hand, am I right in saying the U.S. has only 2 weeks statutory holiday leave? That would make it the lowest in the Western world
Uuh... yes we have kids here in Europe too Mr USA, and not all of them are selling Italian pizzas either. But it's a great life anyway. I for example remember the year 2003 here in Sweden because I had vacation that particular year. I can tell you, my family was thrilled - two weeks are better than nothing. But again, it's a great life anyway. You see, I have a job, I can raise a family and even enjoy some vacation with them from time to time. During the rest of the year I live in the society I helped building and can stay healthy, have evenings and weekends ends off, and have fun with my family and all our
toys.Looking forward to December 2007, when my Christmas holidays are cancelled, but when we can all buy our first iPhones around here.
People planning summer vacations should have already booked it off, and the email states existing vacation requests will not be changed. If you were planning a summer vacation and havnt booked it off yet thats your own problem, heck Ive booked mine off and I dont go until August/Sept. I work part time for a cinema and we are strongly urged not to take holidays in December as its a really busy period, does it mean they are a bad company? no. Means they are a business out to make money, but they are also pretty good to work for. You talk about Europe, well you dont mean England! We have the longest working hours over here and least holidays in Europe. Just because they cannot book 2 weeks off during this time doesnt mean they will be living at work, get real, they will still have there usual days off to spend with family etc.
People like you need to realise just because a business is out to make money it doesnt make them bad for it. They could be earning nice bonuses etc that we dont know about. I really hope you dont have a business, youll be sending everyone home and wondering why you can keep up with demand.
In Sweden: 40h/week and 25 days (5 weeks) paid vacation (you can save from previous years to get much more than that).
Personally i'm taking 24 days paid vacation this summer, saving 6 days (had 5 from last year). Going home from work June 14 and won't go back until July 23.
There's no reason to tell someone to shut up so zip it.
Did you even read the article? If you have vacation scheduled, you can take it. They won't allow new requests. You could still take vacation from July 16 on, plenty of summer time left. This happens all the time in companies.
Do you really think many Cingular store workers have families? This is not a "REAL"job that allows one to support a family.
Yes, that's very nice. Maybe you have your own company that has reached a state where it can do without you for a while, or you work for a company and use the socialistic labor-union to put pressure on your poor employer until he gives you the vacation you insist on. Either way, your company's survival must come first and the vacation last. Otherwise, you may wind up in a situation where you don't even have a job to take vacation from ...and no iPhones.
The 25 day paid vacation is required according to law (You are not required to take it as you can save it from year to year to some degree, but it is required for the company to give it to you).
And companies have gone just fine with it for decades now, so it won't exactly ruin the companies as they just need to plan ahead a while.
No "Socialist Worker Unions" or whatnot, but a law passed by the government. And it has worked fine here in Sweden since the 1970s...
I thought you, as a swede, knew this?
And also that the company isn't required to allow you to take your vacation whenever you please, but they do need a damn good reason not to let you+
Didnt mean to get everyone in an uproar. And yes, I was talking about France so I should have pointed that out instead of all of Europe about the work hours thing.
However, most of Europe does indeed get more vacation time than Americas measly 2 weeks a year. And almost ALL of Europe get health care no matter how many hours they work. There is a reason why we are fatter, have more health problems, are sadder, die early, etc you know.
All im saying is that its a well known FACT that we Americans work way too much & are way to business goal oriented, putting business first & our lives/well being second, and its things like this that just reiterate that.
BTW, the USA is now tied with Japan on average hours worked. South Korea is #1, but thats no shocker. Here is an old article on it, but its now outdated (as we are ranked higher now), but still worth a read.
But, carry on with the iPhone talk, consumers. ;-)
Oh, and thats pretty disrespectful saying that Cingular/AT&T retail isnt a "real" job. Cant wait until some of you guys get out in the real world.
However, most of Europe does indeed get more vacation time than Americas measly 2 weeks a year. And almost ALL of Europe get health care no matter how many hours they work. There is a reason why we are fatter, have more health problems, are sadder, die early, etc you know.
All im saying is that its a well known FACT that we Americans work way too much & are way to business goal oriented, putting business first & our lives/well being second, and its things like this that just reiterate that.
BTW, the USA is now tied with Japan on average hours worked. South Korea is #1, but thats no shocker. Here is an old article on it, but its now outdated (as we are ranked higher now), but still worth a read.
But, carry on with the iPhone talk, consumers. ;-)
Oh, and thats pretty disrespectful saying that Cingular/AT&T retail isnt a "real" job. Cant wait until some of you guys get out in the real world.
I hear you are defending this way of running a country, but in no way can you seriously claim it has brought us success. Sweden has lost nearly all of its societal safety-net (medical service, health insurance, pension benefits), and at the same time people show employer disloyalty and work reluctance as never before.
This is in no way typical for Sweden, but rather for all people that have become too comfortable with all benefits of living in the industrial world. If we don't change this attitude we will soon see ourselves being run over by ambitious people from less fortunate countries. We will be forced to borrow money from the Chinese or go bankrupt.
This is exactly the reason why we are trying to change political direction today and burry the socialistic flower-powering once and for all. People in all western civilization, like Bogg need to wake up and smell the coffee, as long as we can still afford to buy it, and stop moaning about your vacation that needs to be delayed a few weeks. I'm sorry but this is not my way, it's the way of the world - and it always has been. We've just been living in a bubble during the last few generations.
That's it, i'm naming names to the house un-american business committee.
I hate working for a company and i'm starting to despise a social economy which uses money. I'm planning on becoming amish. I'm sick of depending on some company to tell me if i "can" work for them or not.
BUT... getting back on track.
iphone announced at WWDC, for sale immediately, shipping late june? Apple said late june, but if they go on sale after WWDC, guess they need people there to take the order/make the contract deal...
I hate working for a company and i'm starting to despise a social economy which uses money. I'm planning on becoming amish. I'm sick of depending on some company to tell me if i "can" work for them or not.
BUT... getting back on track.
iphone announced at WWDC, for sale immediately, shipping late june? Apple said late june, but if they go on sale after WWDC, guess they need people there to take the order/make the contract deal...
Primary reason.... NASCAR sponsorship. If the courts rule in favor of the Nextel/NASCAR deal...expect the Cingular name to stick around in some aspect until mid-November.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cingular#NASCAR_lawsuit
I see no problem with AT&T's policy - Like others have said, big vacation plans are already made, or they're not big(emergencies come up and it looks like they'll be dealt with accordingly)
Sucks to be you guys with only two weeks vacation - stick at your job awhile.
Been at my current employer for 9 years and get 20days vac, 2 personal days, 10 paid holidays and 56hrs PTO. No gripes here.
Of course I work in the Socialist Republic of Boulder... seven square miles surrounded by reality.
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Sucks to be you guys with only two weeks vacation - stick at your job awhile.
Been at my current employer for 9 years and get 20days vac, 2 personal days, 10 paid holidays and 56hrs PTO. No gripes here.
Of course I work in the Socialist Republic of Boulder... seven square miles surrounded by reality.
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Though this has less to do with the iphone and more about pleasing stock holders. ATT will be running a month long promotion in June where you can get out of your contract with other carriers.
If you have a single line and stay with ATT for 3 months you will be credited $100 if you port your number over or the full amount after 1 year.
multi line plans will also get the the $100 3 month full after 1 year Visa Check card rebate however each additional line that is cancelled from the other carriers will recieve $75 and nothing more.
They will also give 3 months of free push to talk features for anyone coming over from Sprint/Nextel.
Going to be a busy busy month for them.
If you have a single line and stay with ATT for 3 months you will be credited $100 if you port your number over or the full amount after 1 year.
multi line plans will also get the the $100 3 month full after 1 year Visa Check card rebate however each additional line that is cancelled from the other carriers will recieve $75 and nothing more.
They will also give 3 months of free push to talk features for anyone coming over from Sprint/Nextel.
Going to be a busy busy month for them.