It will not be so funny when they brick all three of your new phones.
AT&T will usually win in the end.
They can't brick his phones. He paid for them and they cancelled his contract. He didn't bail on them.
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AT&T Cancelled my Accounts
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They can't brick his phones. He paid for them and they cancelled his contract. He didn't bail on them.
lol I think OP will be fine. The FBI doesn't investigate anything with a value below $1 million at least, and they don't investigate anything that isn't brought to them by a victimized party (how would they even know). Att already "took care of it" on their own so chances they'd file and get involved in an expensive case over less than $1,000 in lost subsidy are pretty much 0.
The OP got lucky, because when your line is terminated involuntarily they can't charge you the ETF. They also can't lock you out of your phone because you did pay your end of it.
So it's a nice place to be, assuming it's cool to never use ATT again. Let's just hope they never become the sole carrier through mergers and market forces so that one day you can't ever own a phone. Unlikely to happen of course, so I wouldn't lose any sleep.
I would ask ATT to unlock the phones since they kicked you off and you may need to use with other carriers. I think they'd process it given the circumstances, and if not pay one of those $99 online services to do it.
Congrats on the lucky break, if you can call it that.
The OP got lucky, because when your line is terminated involuntarily they can't charge you the ETF. They also can't lock you out of your phone because you did pay your end of it.
So it's a nice place to be, assuming it's cool to never use ATT again. Let's just hope they never become the sole carrier through mergers and market forces so that one day you can't ever own a phone. Unlikely to happen of course, so I wouldn't lose any sleep.
I would ask ATT to unlock the phones since they kicked you off and you may need to use with other carriers. I think they'd process it given the circumstances, and if not pay one of those $99 online services to do it.
Congrats on the lucky break, if you can call it that.
There is NO way this is all there is to the story.
AT&T has no reason to cancel an account in good standing under the circumstances described.
Watch: I was arrested yesterday for walking out of a bank. All I did was get some money and leave, and now I'm in prison. This is ridiculous, and my lawyer tells me I can never bank there again (boo hoo).
(Now, what I left out was that I robbed said bank, and was arrested fleeing the scene... but if you just read what I wrote, besides being ridiculously suspicious, you might think I was a victim).
We'll never get the "real" story from the OP, but ya, I'd bet money it's going to bite him in the ass at some point for whatever he did.
AT&T has no reason to cancel an account in good standing under the circumstances described.
Watch: I was arrested yesterday for walking out of a bank. All I did was get some money and leave, and now I'm in prison. This is ridiculous, and my lawyer tells me I can never bank there again (boo hoo).
(Now, what I left out was that I robbed said bank, and was arrested fleeing the scene... but if you just read what I wrote, besides being ridiculously suspicious, you might think I was a victim).
We'll never get the "real" story from the OP, but ya, I'd bet money it's going to bite him in the ass at some point for whatever he did.
How can they do that if they cancelled the account. They would get sued out of the water. Makes no sense. The OP didn't cancel the account, ATT did therefore he is off the hook for the etf. This is not the first account ATT has cancelled and taken a hit. The op is leaving some information out or telling tales. His narration does not make any sense.
OP has suddenly left the building when being questioned about their story. Can not see AT&T just giving away an iPhone that is in such high demand at the moment or at such a loss for that matter.
When I ordered my iPhone the confirmation said 7:05 CDT. I live in EDT but didn't think anything of it. AT&T Fraud Department called me to ask if I placed the order. They asked me to show my ID at an AT&T kiosk or store. Later that same day, they called me back, sort of pressuring me to do it sooner rather than later. They said that they would have to cancel the order if I didn't. I went to a kiosk, they checked my ID and verified it was me.
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According to the OP his account was cancelled without any notification. And canceling an order is not big deal, canceling an entire account is.
According to the OP his account was cancelled without any notification. And canceling an order is not big deal, canceling an entire account is.
I have not left the building, went to sleep and have been taking care of my kids this morning. I love all the insinuating posts claiming there has to be more to the story (my trying fake credit cards, etc).
Its exactly as I explained it, nothing fraudulent what so ever, just a ton of attempts to order phones against my 3 accounts. I am completely prepared for there to be more blowback from this from AT&T later down the road, seems to easy of them to just cancel me and let me keep the phones.
If there isn't any more action I will consider myself lucky and take this as lesson learned. Go ahead and flame away and make more claims that there has to be more to the story.
Its exactly as I explained it, nothing fraudulent what so ever, just a ton of attempts to order phones against my 3 accounts. I am completely prepared for there to be more blowback from this from AT&T later down the road, seems to easy of them to just cancel me and let me keep the phones.
If there isn't any more action I will consider myself lucky and take this as lesson learned. Go ahead and flame away and make more claims that there has to be more to the story.
I had fraud on my AT&T account once. Someone was sending upgrades to North Dakota (or trying to). This was when we lived in Iowa, so it wash;t terribly far.
Anyway, I got a call from AT&T where they informed me what was happening and asked me to dial 611 from my phone to confirm with them. I gave them the info they needed, they sent me a PIN to confirm I was actually talking on the phone, and that was that.
Seems counterintuitive to just flat out ban lines without any notice, but it did sound like these were brand new line/accounts of service?
Anyway, I got a call from AT&T where they informed me what was happening and asked me to dial 611 from my phone to confirm with them. I gave them the info they needed, they sent me a PIN to confirm I was actually talking on the phone, and that was that.
Seems counterintuitive to just flat out ban lines without any notice, but it did sound like these were brand new line/accounts of service?
What about my story doesn't make sense, just re-reading some of the claims against me. I don't have a business account, its just a personal account with 3 lines for the international employees in our office (i run the office in the us).
Again, THERE IS NO MORE TO THIS STORY THAN I EXPLAINED.
Again, THERE IS NO MORE TO THIS STORY THAN I EXPLAINED.
Sadly, responses like these ruin the MR experience for me. It's sad that people are so callous.
Are you referring to my response or peoples response to my situation? I am just trying to contribute to this board with my story so others can avoid having this happen to them.
I am referring to the constant 'There's must be more to this story' comments from those callous individuals. Why would I call you callous? You are clearly the victim here.
That's what I thought, apologies if my response was aggressive. Just reading all of these accusatory posts for the first time this AM has me fired up.
Appreciate your support.
I am not sure there is a good way for people to avoid this situation, because you didn't give enough info...
Up until this point I was under the impression you started three new accounts. Based on this post, that's not the case.
So was the one account new? How long have you had it? You don't seem to care that this happened... did you try and fight it at all?
Again, whether your story is authentic or not, I am not sure there is enough information here to keep others from this happening to them, unless you advice is simply "don't try and place an order 60 times", in which case I would argue that tons of people already did that without experiencing your problems.
Yup, you caught me, I am a total fraud. Excuse me if I was mis-stated, i don't have several account, I mean several lines....
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I think its probably a combo of multiple things. The entire account was opened just 4 or 5 months ago with 2 lines.
A 3rd line was added just recently in the past week. That is all, not multiple accounts I as clarified my mistake from earlier, just multiple lines.
And no, I don't really care that this happened because my own personal lines (me, my wife) are on Verizon. I signed the international guys up for ATT cause it is GSM.
Now all lines are on VZW.
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Leaving for a bit, will be back on later to respond to questions/additional accusations.
Now all lines are on VZW.
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Leaving for a bit, will be back on later to respond to questions/additional accusations.
It is likely that it will bite you in the ass; however, the fact that you think you can pay for a subsidized phone and sell it at full retail after your carrier kicked you out off their service is laughable. Sure, you can sell them but I have a weird feeling you will be paying AT&T back. They may not blacklist the phones, and I don't think they should, but you owe the balance of all three phones.
I also believe there is something about the fraud claim that doesn't add up. I do think you toy with the law a bit, especially acting as a straw buyer/customer for folks who want iPhones but cannot get them due to credit and location. Your personal account should be a business account and I question why you didn't just open that. I also question why you tried 60 times. You sound like an adult, 60 seems egregious.
He did not pay for them. He paid a subsidized price. I believe AT&T will come to collect. They always do.
Yes they do. AT&T can and should file a SAR if they truly deemed this as fraud.
It wasn't long ago people would be ashamed of fraudulently receiving something for next to nothing.
Now it's a badge of honor- one to brag about?
Or,
to live a life where a business entity so wants you out of their life they willingly give up any vested interest in property retained by you shouldn't be something you are proud of.
Now it's a badge of honor- one to brag about?
Or,
to live a life where a business entity so wants you out of their life they willingly give up any vested interest in property retained by you shouldn't be something you are proud of.
That's not how it works with contracts (as opposed to Next). The agreement is that ATT will sell the phone at a reduced rate, so long as the customer commits to 2 years of service. As soon as you sign the contract and pay for the phone, you own the device. The subsidy is not a loan.
If the customer terminates the account, they agree to a penalty (ETF). If AT&T a chooses to terminate the account, then they forfeit the money that they would normally recover over the life of the term.
To me, it sounds like he has some weird scheme going on where he acts as a middle man for people who are otherwise ineligible. That may be considered fraudulent, I'm not sure
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