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I would love a less expensive service, believe me! I agree with you on that :) But this would be about more than just pricing. As a carrier, Apple would be able to use its hardware/software/services/carrier ecosystem to not only make the best quality handsets and software, but also would be able to build a solid backbone to carry all of the data that is sent to and from these devices.

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Yes, there absolutely is a world outside of the U.S., and Apple would be able to offer mobile services outside of the U.S. market as well. But the U.S. would be a start. It would not be cheap, but Apple has a huge mountain of cash, and might be able to afford to do it.

Shocking, you are really talking seriously
 
A TMO buyout wouldn't stress Apple's cash reserves much. They could easily afford to pay off their debt too. A debt-free TMO with a big backer would be formidable.

Remember that Apple has most of its cash overseas, because they don't want to pay US taxes to bring it in.

Apple would have to spend most of what they have in the US to buy T-Mobile (about $25 to $30 billion).

After that, cell networks are not cheap to run. The major carriers each spend close to $20 billion a year upgrading their services, and that's on top of maintaining them, paying tower rental fees, etc.
 
I would have no problem paying for my device out right, if every device was unlocked, contract free and able to work on any network in the world.

This sounds reasonable to me. One of the reasons I don't do smart phones is the obnoxious contracts and costs. The thing that gets me is that people don't realize that they ARE paying for the phone in full they are just doing it over time like financing. For what cellular contracts cost and data.... Believe me, the cell carriers can't count the money fast enough. Most peoples cell plans mimic a car payment. It's obscene.
 
its a modern problem in today's corporate culture where the only defining way of being succesful is having an executive board that rakes in more personal income than the next company.

Even making millions at the executive level isnt' enough anymore. Corporations are looking for any cost cutting measures at the bottom in which to further maximize the gross profits into the shareholders hands.

This is unfortunately happening because of a few things over the last... 20 or so years.

in the 90's. We saw unprecendented growth in virtually every modern sector. Boomers were still the majority of the spending population and were still fully working. Fast Forward 20 years to the modern era. the boomers are dieing, Retiring and generally no longer being the prime focus of business needs.

However, Corporation got into the mindset that every year must be record profit and every year, executives need more.

With the shrinking purchasing power of retiring boomers, and a smaller population of Gen X and Gen Y. the Overall purchasing should have started to flatline. Record growth slow and come to a stop. Less people purchasing should mean less overall revenues (or at least a stop to the insane rampant growth everyone was experiencing in the 90s).

However, Corporate greed never abated. Those CEO's and Executives and boards of Directors still want to maintain increase to profits year after year.

So how do they do that? in many cases, Cost cutting.

But of course, they could never cut their multi million dollar salaries. So they cut every where else. Lower incomes for the employees. Less bonuses and benefits to the staff. Less discounts and incentives to the customer.

Long gone are the days of walking into a tech store for example and bargaining the price of something down. these days it's MSRP or minimal standardized discounts. its Billion dollar profitable companies scaling back offers. Apple is a perfect example of everything I've mentioned for example.

So while ATT could likely continue to offer discounts and subsidies on their devices, since the cost to cover those are included in your monthly bills, They probably hit some other wall, where profits weren't increasing fast enough. So, Cut out the subsidies, keep your monthly fees the same... More pure profit into the share holderes and board of directors pockets....

Unfortunately, this is a terrible way of operating business and does more harm to the economy overall than help. The Economy only works when money is being spread around, and being spent. Not hoarded by a few. the 99% aren't wrong. This reeks of corporate greed and too few people trying to hold onto too much money. as I've always said. the economy would fair better having 100 people by $20,000 cars, than 1 person buying a 2 Million dollar car.

I know, when I see corporations that treat their employees like garbage. and their customers even worse so that all the profits can be hoarded... I tend to avoid these companies like a plague and opt to give my money to places that treat everyone in the company as equals..

You nailed it. If they *can't afford* makes me wonder how I am able to *afford* their expensive data plans......
 
Remember that Apple has most of its cash overseas, because they don't want to pay US taxes to bring it in.

Apple would have to spend most of what they have in the US to buy T-Mobile (about $25 to $30 billion).

After that, cell networks are not cheap to run. The major carriers each spend close to $20 billion a year upgrading their services, and that's on top of maintaining them, paying tower rental fees, etc.

This might be true, but US carriers are making money hand over fist still. The US pays more in cell bills than anywhere else in the world.

Guess that's capitalism.
 
Sprint is joining in the "Un-Carrier" fun!!!


It is only 7-10 lines that get you the $25 per line per month deal.

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I think they'll push zero down financing for expensive flagship phones...Sort of like NEXT and EDGE programs...
 
AT&T new Family Plan.

$130 for 2 lines (unlimited talk, unlimited text, 10GB shared data)
$145 for 3 lines (unlimited talk, unlimited text, 10GB shared data)
$160 for 4 lines (unlimited talk, unlimited text, 10GB shared data)
$175 for 5 lines (unlimited talk, unlimited text, 10GB shared data)

The price of the phone is separate. (bring your own phone, finance it or pay it upfront).



http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57618201-94/at-t-goes-on-the-offensive-with-cheaper-family-plans/
AT&T goes on the offensive with cheaper family plans
The new plans offer more savings with more people, with a family of four paying $160 month for 10 gigabytes of data.





As consumers, gotta love the price war. When carriers compete, consumers win. Thanks T-Mobile for making the other carriers more competitive.
 
I think they'll push zero down financing for expensive flagship phones...Sort of like NEXT and EDGE programs...
What will be the threshold defining "expensive"? Because most decent smartphones are expensive (including iPhone)
 
I just changed my plan and I like the savings. We have 4 lines, 2 iPhones and 2 dumb phones. We like to get the new iPhone every year so we had to constantly do upgrade swaps from the dumb phone lines. What a pain in the ass.

Now we will pay much less every month and when the new iPhone comes out we can still sell our old one, pay full price for the new one and still come out ahead overall.

If we don't want to upgrade some year we save even more and no more stupid contracts.

Works for me.
 
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