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The same way Samsung was celebrating when they thought they could destroy the iPhone 7 with the note 7?:cool:

They tried to pack REAL innovation into the phone .More then Apple ever cared to.This phone deserved the Phone of the Year 2016 .Although now it's easily the 7 Plus

The Note 7 had more features and was more complex than any other phone manufactured," Park said. "In a race to surpass iPhone, Samsung seems to have packed it with so much innovation it became uncontrollable.
 
They tried to pack REAL innovation into the phone .More then Apple ever cared to.This phone deserved the Phone of the Year 2016 .Although now it's easily the 7 Plus

The Note 7 had more features and was more complex than any other phone manufactured," Park said. "In a race to surpass iPhone, Samsung seems to have packed it with so much innovation it became uncontrollable.
It was a bag of mixed technology that backfired. Slower than an 6s is not real innovation, it's not even innovation. There really wasn't any innovation on the note 7, it was a newer version of the note 5. Ok, the iris scanner was innovative.
 
They tried to pack REAL innovation into the phone .More then Apple ever cared to.This phone deserved the Phone of the Year 2016 .Although now it's easily the 7 Plus

The Note 7 had more features and was more complex than any other phone manufactured," Park said. "In a race to surpass iPhone, Samsung seems to have packed it with so much innovation it became uncontrollable.

Wait wait. So now the note 7 is exploding because of too much innovation. Hahahaha.
 
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It was a bag of mixed technology that backfired. Slower than an 6s is not real innovation, it's not even innovation. There really wasn't any innovation on the note 7, it was a newer version of the note 5. Ok, the iris scanner was innovative.
On a positive note, the iris scanner didn't destroy the users' eyes. For the sake of positive reinforcement I think that we should applaud Samsung for that.
 
It was a bag of mixed technology that backfired. Slower than an 6s is not real innovation, it's not even innovation. There really wasn't any innovation on the note 7, it was a newer version of the note 5. Ok, the iris scanner was innovative.

So..making a faster phone is innovation?
 
Pre note 7, no.
Post explosive note 7, yes

Samsung has lowered the bar.

We dont know the exact component causing the explosion.This has nothing to do with whether making a faster processor is innovation.I would call even LG G5 modules concept more innovative than that

It's just as innovative as making a larger phone.
So not innovation then
 
We dont know the exact component causing the explosion.This has nothing to do with whether making a faster processor is innovation.I would call even LG G5 modules concept more innovative than that


So not innovation then
So your saying the note 7 wasnt innovation, just seemingly like a mishmash of technology.
 
So your saying the note 7 wasnt innovation, just seemingly like a mishmash of technology.

Having the best display on the planet ad being the first to implement curved OLED
Having one of the best cameras
Being the first to implement waterproofing and iris scanners
Having the best design out of all smartphones

I don't see any mishmash of technology here and if this is a mishmash then what is the iPhone 7?
 
Having the best display on the planet ad being the first to implement curved OLED
Having one of the best cameras
Being the first to implement waterproofing and iris scanners
Having the best design out of all smartphones

I don't see any mishmash of technology here and if this is a mishmash then what is the iPhone 7?
So back to subjective items being fact?
 
iPhone better water resistance,
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better camera, faster, haptic touch button, better camera gamut, no burn in...here we go again.:rolleyes: More innovation :D
One of the best cameras yes.Key words "One of"

Haptic touch?Yes.I love it
No burn in?There is zero burn in on any flagship OLED

Now iris scanner,wireless charging,best display seem more useful.Wouldnt you agree ? Apple definitely does considering these features are there on the iPhone 8

But of course it's not innovation until Apple does it
 
They tried to pack REAL innovation into the phone .More then Apple ever cared to.This phone deserved the Phone of the Year 2016 .Although now it's easily the 7 Plus

The Note 7 had more features and was more complex than any other phone manufactured," Park said. "In a race to surpass iPhone, Samsung seems to have packed it with so much innovation it became uncontrollable.
I don't know who to laugh at more. Samsung's PR team for actually saying this with a straight face, or the people who blindly take Samsung at their word and are parroting this ridiculous statement here.

I guess the only solution is to laugh equally hard at both. Which I shall do so right about now...
 
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I don't know who to laugh at more. Samsung's PR team for actually saying this with a straight face, or the people who blindly take Samsung at their word and are parroting this ridiculous statement here.

I guess the only solution is to laugh equally hard at both. Which I shall do so right about now...

The batteries are most likely not the flaw here as Samsung isn't stupid enough to do nothing in the first recall.The only explanation maybe is that with the iPhone on a down year they tried to push the design and the tech inside the phone far beyond what the design could actually handle.Hence multiple factors are responsible for this.It seems it's hard for Samsung to zero down on exactly what went wrong.I do hope these factors are discovered before the S8 release otherwise Samsung is done for
 
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One of the best cameras yes.Key words "One of"

Haptic touch?Yes.I love it
No burn in?There is zero burn in on any flagship OLED

Now iris scanner,wireless charging,best display seem more useful.Wouldnt you agree ? Apple definitely does considering these features are there on the iPhone 8

But of course it's not innovation until Apple does it
Oled comes with burn in; free of charge. Better camera, wider color gamut, FaceTime, iMessage Bette water resistance :p your right it's not innovation until the note 7 has it.:rolleyes:
 
The batteries are most likely not the flaw here as Samsung isn't stupid enough to do nothing in the first recall.The only explanation maybe is that with the iPhone on a down year they tried to push the design and the tech inside the phone far beyond what the design could actually handle.Hence multiple factors are responsible for this.It seems it's hard for Samsung to zero down on exactly what went wrong.I do hope these factors are discovered before the S8 release otherwise Samsung is done for
Since the S7 doesn't have the same problem, I guess if the root of the problem still can't be diagnosed, Samsung could always go back to iterating on the S7 form factor and avoid copying the (flawed) Note 7 design.

Might would be a shame, because by this time, the S8 design would have been more or less settled, and it would probably have taken many design cues from the Note 7.
 
Oled comes with burn in; free of charge.
So Apple is going to upgrade to burn in screens next year.Got it

Better camera,
One of*

wider color gamut,
According to DisplayMate still not the best display on the planet

FaceTime, iMessage
Skype,WhatsApp,Allo,Duo

Bette water resistance
The S7 Edge has IP68.Apple has IP67

your right it's not innovation until the note 7 has it.:rolleyes:
Lets disregard Samsung for a minute

TouchID-Moto
LG G5-Modules
Nokia 1020-The DSLR level camera

Yeah still innovation and better than what you listed
 
Being the first to implement waterproofing and iris scanners

Curved OLED,iris scanner and being the first at water resistance are facts .

Just small correction ...

They weren't the first to implement Iris Scanners that was Microsoft.

They weren't the first to implement waterproofing either, that was Sony.
 
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Skype,WhatsApp,Allo,Duo
All of which have their own respective drawbacks.

Allo and Duo lack tablet and desktop apps, and all 4 apps require the added step of being installed and set up manually. Compared to FaceTime and iMessage which come installed by default on all Apple devices, which removes a lot of uncertainty when you want to contact someone.

The S7 Edge has IP68.Apple has IP67

Tests conducted and uploaded to YouTube showed the iPhone 7 actually faring better under prolonged water exposure than the Note 7, despite the Note's better rating on paper.

I suspect that Apple might be intentionally being conservative here, but either way, the numbers alone aren't telling the entire story.

Lets disregard Samsung for a minute

TouchID-Moto
LG G5-Modules
Nokia 1020-The DSLR level camera

Yeah still innovation and better than what you listed
But at what price.

The module system of the G5 doesn't seem to have caught on, and has a few silly drawbacks, like requiring you to remove the battery every time you want to swap modules. The Nokia 1020 sacrifices a lot of bulk for that improved camera system. Moto might have been first with the fingerprint sensor, but it sucked bad.

It's easy to implement a feature, but much harder to implement it well, and even harder to implement it properly without compromising too much in other areas.

Where the iPhone does well is be very good in just about every area, compared to other android smartphones, which typically focus overwhelming on tricking out one feature at the expense of compromising in other areas.

That's what I pay so much for - Apple's expertise in knowing precisely which trade offs to make.
 
Well that's kind of a thing around here. You'd have thought the Samsung CEO stole their girlfriend or something. It's both comical yet sad tbh. A lot of it comes down to the fact that Apple hates Samsung so the Apple hardcore fans have to automatically hate Samsung as well. It's some type of Charles Manson-like mind control. And LOL at the person who said Samsung is the most evil company. B/c I can think of about 10 different companies who've done more than a few questionable things (Apple being one of them) And yes I do have many Apple products but I'm not a blind fan.

Tbh, this entire Note situation is crazy. I do feel that Samsung shouldn't have been so quick to rush this product to the market. Tbh, Samsung should take the Note off the shelves at this point. Focus on the S8 and release the Note9 in 2018.

Samsung will bounce back from this and the majority will forgive and forget. But I do hope Samsung learns to not rush products to the market. Hell I hate when in company does this. And the sad thing is Samsung, Microsoft, and Apple have all done this and it's always ended badly. Samsung will bounce back. I do feel bad for my fellow cell phone retail ppl b/c we're the ones who have to deal with angry customers, who are paranoid that their phone is gonna explode.

And the Apple fandom on here needs to calm down. You guys making fun of Samsung are the same ones who got salty as hell anytime somebody mentioned bendgate. You guys are the same ones who get mad over a commercial poking fun at Apple. Keep it classy, people. A year from now, Apple could find themselves in a similar situation.

Nah. I hate Samsun because every last one of their products I've bought (phones, washer/dryer, refrigerator) has turned out to be trash. THAT is why I hate them. And I will never buy another Samsung product. Can't help that Apple uses some of their components. In wish that they wouldn't. But as far as buying Samsung products? Nah. I was done with the SGS7 I bought for my team to use for work. Next time someone's else will have to cough up the cash because I'm beyond done.
And I'm having a good time with this because I'm sick of the Samsung acolytes on this site coming into every positive Apple thread and mucking it up with their Samsung devotional ranting. And if those of us who love Apple products say as much on an Apple centric site and say why we hate Samsung then the babies g booohooooing to the mods who then ban you. For being argumentative. For defending my choice of products. On an Apple centric site. That's rich.
And here I though the BlackBerry sites were bad. I've stopped coming here like I used to. And it will be a cold day in hell before I donate to this site again, by the way.
So yeah. I've got reasons for hating Samsung. Not spending another cent on them. And yeah I'm having a good time watching the Samsung apologists dealing with this. They're the ones who inject themselves into every pro Apple thread boasting about Samsung and calling us Apple users lemmings and bigots.
So.....yeah. It's not "Apple hates Samsung so Apple fans hate Samsung." There's a good reason for my enjoying this.
 
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