AT&T data plan for iPhone IS unlimited

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  1. -aggie- macrumors P6

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    Too many people are spreading misinformation about the iPhone data plan with AT&T. The TOS has a cap of 5GB, BUT that is for air cards, NOT the iPhone. The iPhone data plan is unlimited.

    Moderator, can we make this a sticky, so the misinformation might stop?
     
  2. dccorona macrumors 68020

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    its technically unlimited, but ATT watches your trends
    so if you usually use x amount of data a month, and suddenly start using 4x amount, theyre gonna get curious and start asking what your doing
     
  3. Kyeris macrumors 6502

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    Yes it is technically unlimited, but AT&T has released several statements about soft caps for all mobile devices. Now whether AT&T will go after you once you go over this soft cap is their choice.
     
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    Do you have anything that substantiates that claim?

    Do you have a link to these statements?
     
  5. slpdLoad macrumors 6502a

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    Do you have a source for your statements?

    I see nothing wrong with people being informed about the existence of soft caps.
     
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    My "source" is the TOS. Don't be so nasty. You imply a tone from my questions that is not there.
     
  7. Nugget macrumors 65816

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    I'd love to be informed about the existence of soft caps if they exist. Doesn't look like that's likely to happen in this thread, though.
     
  8. rfrankl macrumors 6502

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    I hope everybody goes bangbusters on their data and it forces AT&T to come out with different level plans.
     
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  10. tivoboy macrumors 68030

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    maybe

    while it maybe unlimited, there is just SO MUCH in the TOS, that they could use, if we abuse it, like streaming video, jailbreaking, using a slingplayer app, tethering, maybe even MMS setups that AT&T could just BAM, cancel the contract and or charge additional fees for usage that wasn't on the phone itself.
     
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    This is also from the terms of service:

    If they feel someone is using too much data, they are free to limit it or charge them more. Most people don't use that much anyway. Tethering isn't allowed in the TOS either so you won't be racking up data usage that way.
     
  12. -aggie- thread starter macrumors P6

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    I totally understand that, but that wasn't the point of the thread. The point was there isn't a cap. If there's a so-called soft cap, it's certainly not stated in the TOS.
     
  13. Kyeris macrumors 6502

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    Exactly, that's part of it. There is no clear distinction in the TOS about a soft cap, that's completely correct. But AT&T has the complete power to flag you for excessive usage when they wish to.

    So true, there may be no true soft cap, but there are multiple blogs and sites out there saying that AT&T could be imposing soft caps. This is just speculation as well, but I'm pretty sure that the majority of the people that have an iPhone would never go over this soft cap in the first place, but for those that do AT&T can choose what they want to do with you.

     
  14. Michael CM1 macrumors 603

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    When the term "excessive usage" appears, that itself means your data is not unlimited. If it were, you could constantly be downloading huge videos and AT&T wouldn't do a thing.

    By the way, if the OP read through that entire TOS, we should really find him a lady friend or a hobby.
     
  15. -aggie- thread starter macrumors P6

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    Believe it or not, the point of this thread was not to support tethering. :)

    Sure, they can do what you say, but the point is, it's unlimited. Whether they will limit you or not, who knows.
     
  16. Kyeris macrumors 6502

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    I think it would be best if it was left at that
     
  17. -aggie- thread starter macrumors P6

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    I'll let lawyers do that! I simply looked for the parts that pertained to the issue.
     
  18. sam011989 macrumors regular

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    on a legal standpoint (i know too damn much about law considering my family is infected with lawyers)....

    .....if AT&T canceled someone's service because of "excessive usage," and excessive usage was not specifically defined in the TOS, there is a FAT lawsuit waiting to happen. They MUST define what excessive usage is, otherwise they would be able to say 1MB is excessive usage and cancel everyones service
     
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    They wouldn't go that far because Verizon already lost a class action lawsuit for terminating people's contracts because of excessive usage.

    And the OP is right, the TOS specifically says the 5GB cap is only for aircards. Nothing said regarding the iPhone.

    So DL away. :D
     
  20. sam011989 macrumors regular

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    Exactly my point. You have to define it in the contract before you start taking action. The difference, however, is that Verizon was advertising their internet card with "Unlimited internet" but in the contract it said it was limited to 5GB. So Verion's lawsuit was mainly about false advertisement. I remember this because I purchased an internet card, and they told me to sign for the contract without letting me see the contract first. So I made them print out the whole thing so I could read it in the store. Once I came across the clause stating the 5GB limit, I yelled at them for false advertisement and told them to immediately cancel my service. The manager tried to tell me it was too late because my service was activated and I would have to pay early termination fee (this was before their 30 day guarantee thing, even though I think they were wrong to begin the service before I signed the contract). I mentioned I have many connections in the BBB and FCC who would love to hear what they were doing to me. They canceled my service, and I got a call that same day from some dude in charge of the western district that included CA apologizing for the inconvenience. They really sucked up to me after that.

    I'm not fond of Verizon as i Just left them for asking me to pay an additional $90/month because an audit of my account revealed me doing tethering on my phone 4 YEARS ago, which was way before they started offering it. But that doesnt go without implying that AT&T is definitely not any better than them
     
  21. geoffreak macrumors 68020

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    Lets do some math:

    5 GB = 5,000,000 KB = 40,000,000 Kb
    40,000,000 Kb / 30 days = 1,333,333 Kb / day
    1,333,333 Kb / 24 hours = 55,556 Kb / hour
    55,556 Kb / 60 minutes = 926 Kb / minute
    926 Kb / 60 seconds = 15 Kb / second

    This means that you could constantly download at 15 Kb/s for an entire month to fill that entire "cap". There is no way that anyone would would be able to, or want to do such a thing though, so a more practical number would be necessary in order to understand data usage.

    Starting back at our 1,333,333 Kb / day number, lets see how much time each day we can have at full speed (we'll assume 1,200 Kb/s):
    1,333,333 Kb / 1,200 Kb/s = 1,111 seconds
    1,111 seconds is around 18 and a half minutes of full speed downloads a day. Forget about torrenting.

    Enjoy :D
     
  22. superxero3 macrumors regular

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    1,333,333 Kb a day? isn't that over a GB a day?
     
  23. -aggie- thread starter macrumors P6

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    Still waiting for links to the "soft cap" limit...............:)
     
  24. glide macrumors regular

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    If its "unlimited" then why am I charged extra for tethering / texts?

    Pretty sure that's "data"...
     
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    I'm not even going there, you clearly are trolling.
     

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