Wired connection?
AKA Cable or DSL..
I have 150gb a month usage I use 100-140gb a month regularly. Im not violating anything you tool.
Torrents + Streaming + Online gaming + Program downloads
Perfectly reasonable, don't know what your issue is.
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AT&T Enables Wireless Mobile Hotspot for iOS 4.3 Users
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Wired connection?
AKA Cable or DSL..
I have 150gb a month usage I use 100-140gb a month regularly. Im not violating anything you tool.
Torrents + Streaming + Online gaming + Program downloads
Perfectly reasonable, don't know what your issue is.
I'd like to see the basic service included, especially for people who already have 2GB or unlimited plans.
I wouldn't really use the hotspot much, it would just be nice to have every once in a while when I need it. If we're not even going to use an extra 100MB a month why charge us AT&T!! (And then when we find we can't live without it and want a bigger data allotment we'd even be more willing to pay for it!)
I wouldn't really use the hotspot much, it would just be nice to have every once in a while when I need it. If we're not even going to use an extra 100MB a month why charge us AT&T!! (And then when we find we can't live without it and want a bigger data allotment we'd even be more willing to pay for it!)
and as I said, Canadian service providers do not charge extra for tethering, its included with your data plan. Data is Data whether you tether or not.
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Hey, FaceTime is still only allowed on WiFi, so does this mean if I have 2 iPhones I can connect one iPhone to the other's hotspot and use FaceTime? Such a stupid restriction, especially with the Skype iPhone app supporting video calls over 3g.
Hey, FaceTime is still only allowed on WiFi, so does this mean if I have 2 iPhones I can connect one iPhone to the other's hotspot and use FaceTime? Such a stupid restriction, especially with the Skype iPhone app supporting video calls over 3g.
The plan with tethering will cost you a total of $45 per month (2GB plan + $20). If you tether you can go up to total data of 4GB at no additional cost.
Yes, unlimited data for $30 is tempting. That's the main reason I don't want this tethering option. At least for now.
AT&T is screwing us at every other opportunity. I don't see why they won't offer a data-limited (2GB) tethering plan to grandfathered iPhone unlimited data plan customers. Seems like they would want to make another $15 on data that's already been paid for.
Your data usage would go up, which means their costs would go up.
That is why they do not do it.
You'd think the cell carriers would include tethering for free so you'd be more likely to exceed your data plan's limits and buy more GB's from them.
Unfortunately, the carriers are still banking on the fact that most folks (myself included) use a tiny fraction of the monthly data allowed in their plan.
Unfortunately, the carriers are still banking on the fact that most folks (myself included) use a tiny fraction of the monthly data allowed in their plan.
Umm, why bother with the mobile hotspot if you already have Wifi? Just connect your laptop to the same wifi access point the phone is using.
I do this in McDonald's and Starbucks all the time.
Haven't tried to see what options are out there for the iPad when not on the AT&T 3G plan.... it was my impression from AT&T that you had to have a data plan for either the iPhone or the iPad to access the AT&T wifi hotspots.
Just trying to find away to save a few $ on having dual data plans for my iPhone 4 and iPad 3G... one of the reasons I guess that AT&T disallowed the use of tethering of the iPhone with the iPad....
What's your point? I've heard plenty of other complaints about Canadian cell companies... don't I remember something about 36 month contracts?
Exactly. Add online backup, and I'm easily pushing up against Comcast's 250GB limit every month. What do people have against carriers and ISPs providing cost effective plans for people who do actually use a lot of data. I'm not asking to pay the same as someone who uses 25GB in a month, but cost of bandwidth, especially on wired connections, does not scale linearly with usage.
Add to that that prices have been going up instead of down in the past few years, and people who legitimately use a lot of data have good reason to be annoyed. Again, we're not asking to pay the same as everyone else, but I think it's safe to say that everyone is being overcharged for data these days. The problem is that carriers/ISPs seem to simply not care about us.
Wouldn't you be upset if Comcast was busy telling you "Your Comcast High-Speed Internet service has a monthly data usage allowance of 250 gigabytes (GB). If you are wondering whether you are at risk of exceeding this 250GB threshold, you should know that the vast majority - around 99% - of Comcast customers use significantly less than 250GB per month." right on the same page that they're saying you're up to 240 out of 250GB with 10 days left, and they'll terminate your connection with no recourse if you go over twice in a year? Sure, AT&T isn't that bad, but there's still no way I'm going to switch from an unlimited plan to a 2GB plan and then add an extra $20 2GB just to enable tethering. I'd like to use it, but they don't offer any options that are even competitive with their old rates, and bandwidth isn't exactly getting more expansive for them.
My point is charging extra to tether makes absolutely no sense. Your basically giving the provider free money. Nothing changes from a technical standpoint
Yes you can have 36 month contracts, you can also have no termed contract. I dont get what you are saying, its all relative to how much you want to pay, people who go for 36 month contracts are doing so to get the latest iphone / blackberry dirt cheap. Not to mention all a contract does is lock you to the provider, and with 2 major providers in Canada, chances are you wont be switching over every 3 years.
The theory is, if you tether, you are likely to use a greater percentage of your available bandwidth. They sell bandwidth on the assumption that most people will only use a fraction of what they buy. If most people use 10% of what they buy, you can charge less than if people use 95%.
I am not saying this is good or bad, this is just how they think.
Same goes for tethering, there will still be a fraction of people who actually use tethering and use their alloted data. Maybe slightly more, far from any type of majority. Half the people I talk too dont even know what tethering is.
Can I change my iPhone data plan between the "DataPro 2GB for iPhone" and "DataPro 4GB for iPhone Tethering" without extending my contract? I believe the answer is no, but I'm curious now with the discussion of mobile hotspot. I could see turning it on for a month or so if I were traveling and wanted to use other wifi devices (ex. iPad, laptop, etc).
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I'm thinkin about changing from the 2gb to the 4gb since I get 25% and the total would be $33.75 instead of $45. But that wouldn't extend my contract right?
I'm thinkin about changing from the 2gb to the 4gb since I get 25% and the total would be $33.75 instead of $45. But that wouldn't extend my contract right?
I will say on a wired connection 25GB per week is not that bad and does not break TOS. I am pretty sure my family cracks that every week between streaming and downloads.
Over the physical wire we have a lot more bandwithe and huge amounts of data are not a huge issue. It is not really straining the network as much.
Wire data is cheap. Wireless data is very costly compared to it.
For the carriers 5gig is around 30 a month for them. 5 gigs for wired data is pennies.
whack rates? I pay 30 bucks on top of my $35 iPhone plan (which is 1000mins, unlimited evenings/weekends, my5 Canada wide, caller ID, VVM) then I pay 15 bucks for unlimited pic/txt/vid messaging.
My $30 data plan includes 6GB of data to be used however I see fit, I can even share that 6GB bucket across multiple devices.
Personally, I hear about what you folks south of the border pay and I think "damn, my plan aint that bad!"
Then on top, ATnT wants you to pay more coin to be able to use the data you already paid for via tethering/wifi hotspot....I truly feel for you folks
whack rates? I pay 30 bucks on top of my $35 iPhone plan (which is 1000mins, unlimited evenings/weekends, my5 Canada wide, caller ID, VVM) then I pay 15 bucks for unlimited pic/txt/vid messaging.
My $30 data plan includes 6GB of data to be used however I see fit, I can even share that 6GB bucket across multiple devices.
Personally, I hear about what you folks south of the border pay and I think "damn, my plan aint that bad!"
Then on top, ATnT wants you to pay more coin to be able to use the data you already paid for via tethering/wifi hotspot....I truly feel for you folks
You know you have it bad when people that buy their milk in bags are gloating about how much better they have it.
Ahhh... that sucks. I usually run between 4 - 6 gb a month on my phone, so the tiered plans just won't work for me when I have my unlimited grandfathered in. Guess I won't ever be tethering... laaaaaame
whack rates? I pay 30 bucks on top of my $35 iPhone plan (which is 1000mins, unlimited evenings/weekends, my5 Canada wide, caller ID, VVM) then I pay 15 bucks for unlimited pic/txt/vid messaging.
My $30 data plan includes 6GB of data to be used however I see fit, I can even share that 6GB bucket across multiple devices.
Personally, I hear about what you folks south of the border pay and I think "damn, my plan aint that bad!"
Then on top, ATnT wants you to pay more coin to be able to use the data you already paid for via tethering/wifi hotspot....I truly feel for you folks
I am canadian, I am familiar with the rates as I live in Canada. I know the Canadian telecom industry is awful, rates are terrible in comparison to the world. South of the border does not translate to the world. Get a grip, look outside the box. Have you seen their 3g modems with products like TurboHub / RocketHub, 60$ for 10gb of usage for a cable alternative. Robbery....
Your ignorant.
Actually, cell carriers don't want you to go over the allotted data, believe it or not. The charges are there to dissuade a user from going over, not really to recoup the extra costs. If it was to simply recoup costs, they'd likely just charge for the GB outright. However, the more data you use, the more capacity they have to make available for this usage. If the capacity isn't available since it takes time to grow capacity at the last mile, then overages are exactly what you don't want. That's simply poor network management to encourage behavior that saturates your network and causes grumblings from all your users.
You are also right that carriers are banking a bit on the fact that you aren't using your full monthly allotment. It's possible to sell X GB per month, when the capacity is really say 80% of that (as an average). The assumption is that most users will stay under 80% of their cap normally, but the data is there if they need it without paying an overage. Unlimited plans work very similarly. It's really just their way of saying "We believe we have the capacity to handle regular usage from all our customers, and don't want to charge an overage unless we believe you are an anomaly in the statistical data, and thus an 'abuser'."
I might be that 2%, but I use a lot of my 250 gigs of Comcast LEGALLY!
Blu-Ray Downloads, Netflix and Hulu.
Still, America is a country where the consumer is screwed, I really hate that the companies can't keep up and just decide to say they just want to be on equal terms of the rest of the world.
I say simply, why can't the networks adjust for the future demands instead of just cramp down? It's like a runner who instead of training harder for longer distances just decides to chicken out and run shorter distances.
Blu-Ray Downloads, Netflix and Hulu.
Still, America is a country where the consumer is screwed, I really hate that the companies can't keep up and just decide to say they just want to be on equal terms of the rest of the world.
I say simply, why can't the networks adjust for the future demands instead of just cramp down? It's like a runner who instead of training harder for longer distances just decides to chicken out and run shorter distances.