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In my area Sprint is a joke. I know Sprint has some very good markets, but this is not mine. I have 20+ with att in my market. I know everything depends where you live. But in my opinion Sprint is the 4th after Att, VZW and T-mo now nationwide.
 
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Even T-Mobile has increased their pricing in many markets recently.
T-Mobile has cut the price by a lot recently. The new family match policy gives a discount to any family plan where all the lines have the same data plan. 15GB 2 lines = $130 at AT&T, 18GB (6GB x 3 lines) = $120 @ T-Mobile.

I'm not arguing for anyone. I'm arguing against your thought that it's unfair for AT&T to raise the cost on a plan that hasn't seen a cost increase in eight years, despite the fact that the data speed on that plan has increased 50-300x over the same period.

IMO, the only way that thought would be logical is that you either didn't understand what's changed with the carriers over the last eight/nine years, or .. you actually did, and you just want to approach this from an angle that reads anywhere between whiny and entitled.

I figured I'd give you the benefit of the doubt on that one and throw out some basic facts to give you a framework, but if you just want to argue against them (like with your quote below), I'm inclined to believe you are approaching this from the other angle.

I never said anyone should blindly throw them their money. I just don't think anyone should be ignorant about details of the issue, either.


Right. Because you and everyone else would have happily remained an AT&T customer if they left their data speeds at EDGE/3G rates, while the rest of the carriers did the $100B infrastructure upgrades to move their speeds up to LTE.


Others have here have mentioned to you that there are MVNOs that resell AT&T and Verizon's network for cheaper than AT&T and Verizon do themselves. You don't get the same level of customer support, and you don't necessarily always get 100% of the speed, but you can use the same networks and save money. You're not stuck.
You are the one who doesn't understand how business works. As companies invest money into infrastructure they are able to offer products/services at a lower cost. This is the economics of scale 101. By your logic we should all be paying more than 23,334 for a computer (modern Apple Lisa price) because Intel and their foundries have invested billions (trillions?) of dollars.
 
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You are the one who doesn't understand how business works. As companies invest money into infrastructure they are able to offer products/services at a lower cost. This is the economics of scale 101. By your logic we should all be paying more than 23,334 for a computer (modern Apple Lisa price) because Intel and their foundries have invested billions (trillions?) of dollars.
I gave some fact-based thoughts about what I see happening with the US wireless industry. What's that? Those thoughts don't apply to computers, SSD, Big Macs, or Telsas? You don't say... :eek: smh

Obviously your thought quoted above is not what's happening in the US wireless industry today.

So if they're not lowering their rates because they want to recoup the billions that they invested for the LTE infrastructure upgrades, then what is your thought for why the rates haven't lowered?
 
I gave some fact-based thoughts about what I see happening with the US wireless industry. What's that? Those thoughts don't apply to computers, SSD, Big Macs, or Telsas? You don't say... :eek: smh

Obviously your thought quoted above is not what's happening in the US wireless industry today.

So if they're not lowering their rates because they want to recoup the billions that they invested for the LTE infrastructure upgrades, then what is your thought for why the rates haven't lowered?
Obviously they want to recoup infrastructure costs however the AT&T and Verizon are also some of the most greedy corporations in America and they love nickle and dime every cent they can out of their customers.
 
Obviously they want to recoup infrastructure costs however the AT&T and Verizon are also some of the most greedy corporations in America and they love nickle and dime every cent they can out of their customers.
You'd think a company that loves to nickel and dime every cent out of their customers wouldn't wait eight/nine years before increasing the price of a plan for the first time. That's such an obvious miss for a greedy company, no?
 
You'd think a company that loves to nickel and dime every cent out of their customers wouldn't wait eight/nine years before increasing the price of a plan for the first time. That's such an obvious miss for a greedy company, no?
they increased the cost of the upgrade fee each year mate
 
Other than being throttled after your reach your limit, is there any difference between GoPhone and post-paid?
 
they increased the cost of the upgrade fee each year mate
They have certainly had increases in that but I don't think it was each year, and since it's a one time free (and not even for everyone especially with AT&T) it's quite a ways off from an increase in price of a monthly service.
 
They have certainly had increases in that but I don't think it was each year, and since it's a one time free (and not even for everyone especially with AT&T) it's quite a ways off from an increase in price of a monthly service.
nope each year mate. this year was 45, last year was 40.... I think it was 25 dollar or so when i first joined.
 
nope each year mate. this year was 45, last year was 40.... I think it was 25 dollar or so when i first joined.
That's about 3 increases while unlimited stayed the same price for quite a few more years than that. So certainly not each year.
 
That's about 3 increases while unlimited stayed the same price for quite a few more years than that. So certainly not each year.
the price didn't stay the same. The original iPhone data plan was $25 and included some sms. The price was increased to $30 for the iPhone 3G. Then eventually the unlimited plan was removed and replaced with a 3GB plan at the same price point; so that is similar to a price increase but only for new customers.
 
the price didn't stay the same. The original iPhone data plan was $25 and included some sms. The price was increased to $30 for the iPhone 3G. Then eventually the unlimited plan was removed and replaced with a 3GB plan at the same price point; so that is similar to a price increase but only for new customers.
So basically the $30 price for those who had it and stayed with the plan has remained the same for quite a few years now until it was just increased.
 
So basically the $30 price for those who had it and stayed with the plan has remained the same for quite a few years now until it was just increased.
Sure, but the full context is we couldn't add any more unlimited lines either, we had our upgrade fees increased each year and we unable to do tethering/mobile hotspot.
 
Sure, but the full context is we couldn't add any more unlimited lines either, we had our upgrade fees increased each year and we unable to do tethering/mobile hotspot.
But the upgrade pricing still didn't go up every year that the unlimited pricing had stayed the same. And, more of a side point, there's also the fact that the increase of the unlimited line pricing is per month vs upgrade pricing which is one time per upgrade (with many getting it waived too or not having it applied because of FAN on their account).
 
So what is everyone else doing? Just switching to a mobility plan and dealing with the increase?
Years ago I found my unlimited plan to be too restrictive in the voice area. I switched to a mobility plan and could not be happier. I buy my phones using NEXT.
I don't know if it's cost-effective or not. I still pay about the same thing for three telephones and four tablets, but now I don't have to watch my voice minutes. Luckily when AT&T offered to double the data at no extra charge I signed up. They did that twice so now pay for 15gb data but have about 50 and I can talk to any land line or cell with ought thinking about overages.
And, I can tether my MBA when on the road.
 
But the upgrade pricing still didn't go up every year that the unlimited pricing had stayed the same. And, more of a side point, there's also the fact that the increase of the unlimited line pricing is per month vs upgrade pricing which is one time per upgrade (with many getting it waived too or not having it applied because of FAN on their account).

It went up every year period to discourage people from taking a 2 year contract and move people over to the new plans.

Since the subsidy was built-in into the plans with unlimited data, it's equivalent to a monthly increase (if you divide it by 24 months)

Getting the fee waived is very YMMV. Sometimes they'll do it. Soemtimes it not. I also had a FAN discount too.

BTW since you bought up FAN. I'll point out that the FAN discount applied for the minute plan + individual data plans on the old FamilyTalk plans. With MSV the FAN discount only applied to the data plan. So people get less FAN savings now too.
 
T-Mobile has cut the price by a lot recently. The new family match policy gives a discount to any family plan where all the lines have the same data plan. 15GB 2 lines = $130 at AT&T, 18GB (6GB x 3 lines) = $120 @ T-Mobile.


You are the one who doesn't understand how business works. As companies invest money into infrastructure they are able to offer products/services at a lower cost. This is the economics of scale 101. By your logic we should all be paying more than 23,334 for a computer (modern Apple Lisa price) because Intel and their foundries have invested billions (trillions?) of dollars.

Lol .... They might of on certain plans which AT&T and Verizon has as well but everybody is increasing prices. T-mobile made the unlimited 4g plan from $70 to $90 , sprint increased it by $10 and AT&T and Verizon is doing their usual
 
It went up every year period to discourage people from taking a 2 year contract and move people over to the new plans.

Since the subsidy was built-in into the plans with unlimited data equivalent to a monthly increase (if you divide it by 24 months)

Getting the fee waived is very YMMV. Sometimes they'll do it. Soemtimes it not. I also had a FAN discount too.

BTW since you bought up FAN. I'll point out that the FAN discount applied for the minute plan + individual data plans on the old FamilyTalk plans. With MSV the FAN discount only applied to the data plan. So people get less FAN savings now too.
But it didn't go up every year compared to the period that the unlimited had stayed the same in price (which is the context all of this was brought up in).
 
Lol .... They might of on certain plans which AT&T and Verizon has as well but everybody is increasing prices. T-mobile made the unlimited 4g plan from $70 to $90 , sprint increased it by $10 and AT&T and Verizon is doing their usual
Right now T-Mobile is offering 2 lines of unlimited for 140 + 40 for each extra line. So 2 lines is still $70 and more is cheaper.

But it didn't go up every year compared to the period that the unlimited had stayed the same in price (which is the context all of this was brought up in).

Did you even have unlimited with AT&T? Cuz it doesn't sound like you did as you are missing the context entirely.
 
Right now T-Mobile is offering 2 lines of unlimited for 140 + 40 for each extra line. So 2 lines is still $70 and more is cheaper.



Did you even have unlimited with AT&T? Cuz it doesn't sound like you did as you are missing the context entirely.


lol "unlimited" .... T-mobile is as much as a ripoff as with the other carriers. I was spending $130 a month for unlimited 4g , my phone and tablet added in with sales tax. Sprint is $100 with sales tax. Sprint is also offering 2 unlimited plans for $140 as well then if you want to bring it up.
 
Actually sprint is offering unlimited for $130 for two lines.


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Right now T-Mobile is offering 2 lines of unlimited for 140 + 40 for each extra line. So 2 lines is still $70 and more is cheaper.



Did you even have unlimited with AT&T? Cuz it doesn't sound like you did as you are missing the context entirely.
The context is pretty clear, and the point is that there were no yearly increases in the upgrade price. If you limit it to some small set of a few particular years perhaps you can say that, but that's neither here nor there since we aren't taking about a couple of particular years, but overall (or at the very least the span of years that the unlimited pricing has remained the same).
 
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lol "unlimited" .... T-mobile is as much as a ripoff as with the other carriers. I was spending $130 a month for unlimited 4g , my phone and tablet added in with sales tax. Sprint is $100 with sales tax. Sprint is also offering 2 unlimited plans for $140 as well then if you want to bring it up.
T-Mobile's unlimited costs the same as AT&T's new unlimited plan except it doesn't require DirecTV.

Sprint's Unlimited is an extra 60 per line unlike 40 for T-Mobile. Sprint's a lot slower too.

T-Mobile's refer a friend promotion will give an additional $25 credit per line ported over. For business customers, T-Mobile offered $350 in credit for each line ported over; I got $1750 from that.
 
T-Mobile's unlimited costs the same as AT&T's new unlimited plan except it doesn't require DirecTV.

Sprint's Unlimited is an extra 60 per line unlike 40 for T-Mobile. Sprint's a lot slower too.

T-Mobiles refer a friend promotion will give an additional $25 credit per line ported over. For business customers, T-Mobile offered $350 in credit for each line ported over; I got I got $1750 from that.


Now you just sound biased towards t-mobile. I tried them but coverage sucks and their customer service is worse then their coverage. For two lines unlimited sprint is $130 and t-mobile is $140 what's cheaper ? Single lines t-mobile is $90 and sprint is $70 what's cheaper ? I'll tell you. The correct answer is sprint.


Sprint offers $50 I believe to refer a friend. I wouldn't ask my worse enemy to port over to t-mobile.
 
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