T-Mobile USA isn't going broke, are they?
Deutsche Telekom owns them anyway...
T-Mobile USA can't be doing as bad as Sprint... Sprint hasn't made money in years!
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AT&T Gives Up on T-Mobile Acquisition
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T-Mobile USA isn't going broke, are they?
Deutsche Telekom owns them anyway...
T-Mobile USA can't be doing as bad as Sprint... Sprint hasn't made money in years!
The fact that AT&T never once explained their utter hypocrisy in most of their statements with their memo several months ago....just showed me and should have showed everyone else that they simply wanted this for power.
This absolutely had to do with AT&T wanting to gobble up more competitors so they can continue lowering data caps, raising prices, etc....
It was almost comical seeing AT&T continue issuing statement after statement repeating the same things that have been discredited by just about everyone outside their PR department
This absolutely had to do with AT&T wanting to gobble up more competitors so they can continue lowering data caps, raising prices, etc....
It was almost comical seeing AT&T continue issuing statement after statement repeating the same things that have been discredited by just about everyone outside their PR department
T-Mobile merged with Orange in the UK and that reduced competition and they made their stores much nicer. Why was everyone in the USA against this?
T-Mobile and Orange (UK networks) are both crap so no one actually cares over here
Deutsche Telekom already said that this money would be shipped straight home to Germany.
Did anyone even read the technical parts of deal or did they just see the bold title and go "oh hell no". this merger would have done a huge benefit to end users and it would not have driven prices up. instead of 1 giant that overshadows AT&T, sprint, and tmobile, it would have been 2 giants overshadowing just sprint. Sprint would have gotten it stuck in the butt. But who cares, sprint has been aweful for years. But by no means would there have been a monopoly. as long as there are 2 or more companies making a product, they can't jack up prices.
Had they merged they intended to bring more 4g to AT&T, as well as far more coverage. and tmobile customers who were absorbed would have gotten a lot more coverage as well as a lot more options (like an official iphone for example). Merging two network technologies together would have been able to create a better network technology using the best from both.
So i don't know why everyone is hating so hard on the deal. I think it's a real shame it failed.
Imagine if the DoJ denied apple aquiring next, or anything of the other companies that made them what they are today. Instead of great products apple would have died and we'd have crap. But i guess people are more paranoid these days. If a company liked apple tried to buy a competing OS concept today they'd be denied because it discourages competition. As if. Only if EVERY competeitor was gone would it matter.
Had they merged they intended to bring more 4g to AT&T, as well as far more coverage. and tmobile customers who were absorbed would have gotten a lot more coverage as well as a lot more options (like an official iphone for example). Merging two network technologies together would have been able to create a better network technology using the best from both.
So i don't know why everyone is hating so hard on the deal. I think it's a real shame it failed.
Imagine if the DoJ denied apple aquiring next, or anything of the other companies that made them what they are today. Instead of great products apple would have died and we'd have crap. But i guess people are more paranoid these days. If a company liked apple tried to buy a competing OS concept today they'd be denied because it discourages competition. As if. Only if EVERY competeitor was gone would it matter.
I liked the part of how acquiring T-Mobile, AT&T was going to create a whole bunch of new jobs...
DISH could merge/buy them. The point is, whatever happens there will still be 4 strong competitors in the US, including the price leader (T-Mo).
T-Mobile merged with Orange in the UK and that reduced competition and they made their stores much nicer. Why was everyone in the USA against this?
Lets be clear here. T-Mobile and Orange DID NOT MERGE IN THE UK. They have formed an alliance and share each others network. Eventually a spin off network called 'Everything Everywhere' is to be launched to run as a partnership IN ADDITION to T-Mobile and Orange.
All they have done is increased each others coverage. Its a completely different matter in the US as the silly networks dont use the same technology, and they cant inter-operate with each other. In the UK all networks get access to the same specifications, on the same spectrum.
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T-Mobile and Orange (UK networks) are both crap so no one actually cares over here
Never had an issue myself. Together they have better coverage than another other UK network. Who are you with? O2, the lords of dropped calls
, or 3 - the money grabbing cheats.
Even with the competition consumers have lost unlimited data, prices are extremely comparable (and still on the rise) and subsidies are even across the board. The only reason to choose one service over then other is service quality in your geographic locations you frequent the most and your need for customer service. I doubt that book takes much account into the rampant price fixing and current level of corporate greed of modern society.
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HAHA! If you think ANY industry is going by or following these rules and practices in that book, you need to read this.
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Well since "corporations are people," AT&T is gonna get their way in a different way now. I guess they tried to play by the rules. Either way, their money will speak pretty loud in US politics.
AT&T's army of lobbyist unleashed.
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Try comparing price plans between carriers. One of the main thrusts of the opposition was that T-Mo was a clear instigator in forcing pricing adjustments for all carriers to the lower end.
You obviously didn't pay attention to that aspect did you? It's easy to see. ATT have no price plans that even come close to offering the lower rates that T-Mo do and based on every previous deal ATT have closed they would have in no way reduced prices or offered similar plans in the future.
Not to mention it would have left only one primary GSM carrier in the US. Which makes one of the main benefits of GSM even more pointless.
Never had an issue myself. Together they have better coverage than another other UK network. Who are you with? O2, the lords of dropped calls
giffgaff, the ones who pay me to use their network and give me the best deal in the country
While its true T-Mobile might not make it and will eventually file for bankruptcy, AT&T can only sit and wait and hope they're able to grab portions when the time comes. While none of knows what the future holds, I do think this is a modest win for the consumer. Perhaps we will also see T-Mobile's fortunes change somewhat if they can get enough infrastructure in place to handle 3G iPhones.
Are you seriously lumping AT&T in with Sprint and T-Mobile with a straight face?
AT&T's parent company is nearly twice the size of Verizon and even without the merger is just behind Verizon with 32% marketshare (Verizon has 33%). The merger would have given them 43% of the market, making them significantly larger than Verizon.
I can live with a world where AT&T isn't just handed T-Mobile's customer base, which even if it goes bankrupt now will have its assets put to bid and force its customers to comparison shop instead of being neatly delivered to AT&T wrapped with a bow.
giffgaff, the ones who pay me to use their network and give me the best deal in the country
So O2 then as they are a 'virtual operator' with no network of their own, and are owned by crummy O2
Not sure I'd wanna do that myself, but each to his own. I guess you pay for reliability http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/11/23/giffgaff_outage/
UK has better consumer protection laws than the US. If this would have gone through we would have been screwed.T-Mobile merged with Orange in the UK and that reduced competition and they made their stores much nicer. Why was everyone in the USA against this?
I don't know how you can call T-Mobile USA a "strong" company and keep a straight face.
DT is letting them die a slow death. Customer retention is terrible.
All I can say is good luck to DISH.
They suck as a satellite provider, doubt they will do any better as a wireless carrier.
And t-mobile is going under so what good has their lower prices offered? Temporary service until the collapse? Lack of any meaningful national infrastructure? In the end there will still be one less carrier and they will have to go with another provider.
T-Mobile merged with Orange in the UK and that reduced competition and they made their stores much nicer. Why was everyone in the USA against this?
This is Aumrica! We love competition and freedom. We don't put up with that kind of crap. Please keep that kind of thinking to yourself.
So O2 then as they are a 'virtual operator' with no network of their own, and are owned by crummy O2
Not sure I'd wanna do that myself, but each to his own. I guess you pay for reliability http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/11/23/giffgaff_outage/
I have never had a single problem with their network, but I did made a profit from them just recently (£30 in top-ups over my payback period - £50 payback in that period = £20 pure profit baby)
And 250 minutes, unlimited texts, and unlimited internet (without any fair use policy) for £10 a month isn't to be sniffed at
If I understand this bit, since it is tax deductible, guess who picks up part of the tab for this little debacle.
Don't I love paying for corporate *****k-ups.
But until then I'll be paying much lower prices and T-Mo get a couple of billion from ATT to extend their options.
Invest how?
After buying T-Mobile... AT&T would have 10,000 new towers and more spectrum. That seems like a good investment.
AT&T wasn't buying T-Mobile just for their customer list, right?
Think about it, guys. Even though AT&T seems big and stupid... they did have a plan for all of this.
I have never had a single problem with their network, but I did made a profit from them just recently (£30 in top-ups over my payback period - £50 payback in that period = £20 pure profit baby)
And 250 minutes, unlimited texts, and unlimited internet (without any fair use policy) for £10 a month isn't to be sniffed at
Not bad. The very low minutes would be a problem for me though. I get Unlimited Minutes, Texts and Data (no fair usage), plus an extra microsim for the iPad (again, no fair usage) for £10 /mo from T-Mobile, not fixed into a long term contract either. Been with them for about 5 years now...never had any problems and get the full 7.2mbps connection to my phone and iPad. Very happy