i hear ya... then again - i've been tethering all along on 2.2.1 - so aslong as there is a jailbreak - i'll be happy
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AT&T got burned in the Keynote
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i hear ya... then again - i've been tethering all along on 2.2.1 - so aslong as there is a jailbreak - i'll be happy
MMS is so difficult to implement for the iPhone. rrrrrrrrrrrriiiight....
What's next, MMS charges for all iPhone 3GS users unless they get a $35 unlimited messaging plan in order to use MMS?!
What's next, MMS charges for all iPhone 3GS users unless they get a $35 unlimited messaging plan in order to use MMS?!
More likely the reason it's not happening at launch is that AT&T are waiting until their 7.2Mbps is build out better and when it has more capacity. It would put massive strain of 10m users all started sending their videos without the capacity to hold it while keeping all the non-iPhone users happy too.
The whole remove opt-out is a ruse. That's not the issue. They can run a script that would remove that within an hour or two.
It's easier to have capacity and coverage in much smaller countries, that probably have less 3G coverage than the US.
Also, don't expect Verizon to come into the fray until the 4G networks are built out more. Unless Apple start to build network specific phones (which I doubt), that makes Sprint a non-starter. T-mobile in the US haven't the resources or network to keep up with AT&T and Verizon. Verizon's 4G network will be a standardized network like the rest of the world, but honestly, it will come down who wants to give Apple more money.
The whole remove opt-out is a ruse. That's not the issue. They can run a script that would remove that within an hour or two.
It's easier to have capacity and coverage in much smaller countries, that probably have less 3G coverage than the US.
Also, don't expect Verizon to come into the fray until the 4G networks are built out more. Unless Apple start to build network specific phones (which I doubt), that makes Sprint a non-starter. T-mobile in the US haven't the resources or network to keep up with AT&T and Verizon. Verizon's 4G network will be a standardized network like the rest of the world, but honestly, it will come down who wants to give Apple more money.
AT&T and Apple are probably playing Hardball right now. AT&T wants another year of the monopoly and Apple want's to break that.
AT&T screws Apple by withholding MMS and Faster 3G, Apple screws AT&T by dealing 4G with Verizon.
The little digs are an indication that this is happening in the background.
AT&T has been really gouging us for owning an iPhone, but we did get a huge commitment from them when they expanded their networks and supported visual voicemail, etc.
It was a win-win on both sides, but they are really gouging now...
AT&T screws Apple by withholding MMS and Faster 3G, Apple screws AT&T by dealing 4G with Verizon.
The little digs are an indication that this is happening in the background.
AT&T has been really gouging us for owning an iPhone, but we did get a huge commitment from them when they expanded their networks and supported visual voicemail, etc.
It was a win-win on both sides, but they are really gouging now...
If you truly believe that I have some ocean front property I can sell you in Arizona...
(idiots)
I agree. If Apple really wanted to not embarrass ATT so much they wouldn't have put all of those carriers on the screen at once, and leave ATT off of it. That looked really bad for AT&T.
But hopefully it is a good sign that this exclusive rights thing will end at the end of the contract.
I don't know why their are people here sticking up for AT&T, I mean it is awful that MMS and tethering aren't available at the same time as other countries. Especially for what you pay for the iphone, data, and minutes (with no texting included). The whole thing is just bad.
Pretty much sums up AT&T's day yesterday.
This is where the thread should have ended.
It's going to look bad either way.
Brits are rioting after their initial joy of seeing o2 as one of the carriers on the tethering slide --- after they found out that they have to pay an extra 15 pounds a month for 3 GB of iphone tethering.
I just don't get what they have to "get ready". Every phone on their network except the iPhone already have this feature.
Agreed
When you suck so bad nothing can embarrass you. I unlocked my phone when I go to Europe for work I use a french carrrier, my phone works all over the subways, EVERYWHERE!!! When I still have my ATT SIM on I drop covererage EVERYWHERE. When I am in the US and take the metro here in DC where I live, my phone is an ipod Touch.
I wish I had 4 hands so I can give ATT 4 thumbs down.
When you suck so bad nothing can embarrass you. I unlocked my phone when I go to Europe for work I use a french carrrier, my phone works all over the subways, EVERYWHERE!!! When I still have my ATT SIM on I drop covererage EVERYWHERE. When I am in the US and take the metro here in DC where I live, my phone is an ipod Touch.
I wish I had 4 hands so I can give ATT 4 thumbs down.
Because I would argue that the sheer number of iPhones, and propensity for iPhone owners to use the data network, will put a greater strain on the network than all the other phones combined.
Pretty much sums up AT&T's day yesterday.
Absolutely agree. That is just pathetic... And I'm not even an AT&T hater like everyone else.
well, that 6GB/month promotion is back, and we already have both MMS & tethering working with Rogers/Fido with no extra charge..