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I did the exact same. 15GB -> 30GB. Glad I did it because I've been nearing 30GB quite a bit some months.
Yeah my family just said **** it when using data because now we have so much. We used to limit ourselves on our 15gb every month. Even had to turn off their data at one point so we wouldn't go over because our phones are constantly getting pushed notifications. 30GB is just right. We come close but I just hold back on my YouTube watching mainly no biggy
 
I did the exact same. 15GB -> 30GB. Glad I did it because I've been nearing 30GB quite a bit some months.

Yea, I did that too. The, then 15GB plan @ $130 is now 30GB. No way I am switching to their new plans. Since they did not show any plans above 20GB, my guess, like others, is those prices are staying the same. I guess we will know more tomorrow. So, like others, I hope they let me keep my Double Data Promo Plan, it will be very disappointing to lose 15GB, when I am using 24-28GB a month :(
 
So if I am on the 10GB for $100 plan, which they discounted to $80 per month to keep me from switching to T-Mo, does anyone know the likelihood of getting a 15GB plan for equivalent price?

I'm in the exact same situation. I got this retention plan 2 weeks ago. I plan on calling or tweeting (that's how I got a response the first time) and laying out the scenario that if I had waited and threatened to switch now, they would offer me 15GB for $80 since a 10GB plan no longer exists. Worst case, they say no and I sign up for T-Mobile test drive and see how their service in my area is.
 
Just FYI, I'm not attacking you with this. I see accusations always slung around about how terrible T-Mobiles network is, or that, in general, T-Mobile is less expensive because they don't have the same coverage, reliability, or signal penetration. To an extent, I'm sure that's true. That said, if AT&T and Verizon were not feeling threatened by either T-Mobiles pricing, network, and/or extras I don't think they'd be reacting nearly, as much.

Dropping prices and eliminating subsidies isn't a token response to some who is just supposedly blowing a lot of hot air. So it's always strange to me when I see others dismissing T-mo.

I in no way dismissed T-Mobile. The ranking for coverage and signal strength in my area is:
1 - AT&T
2 - T-Mobile
3 - Verizon
4 - Sprint

AT&T has a decent lead on T-Mobile. T-Mobile is just barely ahead of Verizon. Sprint is a joke. I am dismissive of Sprint.

I currently have AT&T because they are the best carrier in my area, but as I said in my post, if they ever stop feeling compelled to improve their service or reduce their prices, I will be moving to T-Mobile, who has been very quickly doing both (just 4 years ago T-Mobile's service was worse than Sprint's - they've dramatically improved in that time, and I expect that if AT&T stops improving for just a few months, then T-Mobile will overtake them, too.)
 
I in no way dismissed T-Mobile.
I wasn't saying you were. Rather, that's why I mentioned I wasn't attacking you -- I was more commenting in general -- in fact debated not quoting you even in the first place. But I just felt my comment would perhaps be seeming coming from no where and not be in response to anything. I guess my comment was still disconnected anyway. My apologies.

Rather, I was supporting you. Like as in I'm happy for you because T-Mo is getting you less expensive service with more additions and features. So it's strange to me when other people, who aren't you, rail against T-Mo.

I mean, I get in their case it's entirely possible that T-Mo service is either literally nonexistent or of very poor quality. Or maybe they get a competitive price because of a service discount though their company, as a government employee, or even as an employee of AT&T or VZW their self. And there for as such, why they use AT&T.

But, otherwise, I'd think everyone should at least in spirit or in principle be supporting T-Mo. Yet I don't.
 
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The customer has always been responsible for the full price of the phone. I don't see any literal "passing" or transfer of costs, just figurative. Just visibility of costs.
Yes and No. Customer always paid one way or the other.

But with smartphones Carriers do not get the same discount when you order million of phones (before they got the discounts/margins), the game changed when Apple introduced iPhone; so less margin or no margin for the carriers (from the sales of the device).

Motorola is selling their unlocked phone direct now.

For some reason, apple still list verizon contract plans; but verizon, once subsidy cost reduced/removed phone upgrades cycle will be longer than 2 years.
 
Most european mobile operators charge HUGE for incoming calls, so the offset is, you probably don't get many incoming calls, since calling your mobile will cost almost everyone who calls you about $2 a minute, so the price isn't much lower in that regards, half of it's just shifted to people who call you.

This is so wrong on all level (at least when comparing apples-to-apples, i.e. within-home-country usage) that I won't even bother to correct it...

ATT is adjusting to Verizon as well as T-Mobile.

All the four major telecom companies are passing the smartphone cost to the customers.

$650 iPhone, we will know how this is going to impact apple bottom coming quarters.

So true. Really curious to see what happens when the average American customer will discover, over the course of the next 2 years or so, how much an iPhone really costs. Not sure he/she, and ultimately APPL's bottom-line and market valuation, will appreciate...
 
I'm glad I switched to T-Mobile at the beginning of this year. I kissed AT&T goodbye and so far no need to look back, and no regrets. These AT&T data plans seem quite ridiculous. With T-Mobile you get free roaming to Mexico and Canada, not just free calls as with the expensive AT&T plans. AT&T falls very short, and on top of that they still make extra money with the overages. If you have good T-Mobile service in your area you should try them out. T-Mobile network coverage has increased dramatically in the last few years.
 
When I search for a new contract, i'm still getting the old pricing.
 

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Wow, that's a pretty passionate response.

Just to clarify, my original point wasn't "whoo!! go Europe! US sucks!", but more "I hope you get fairer prices soon". I'm not sure why you're being so defensive for companies who, at the best of times, are widely regarded as pounding the consumer. But hey, if you're happy paying $100 a month because you feel you get more for your money, who am I to argue.
I get your pov. What konqerrer is trying to say is its a different scenario. And this is true.

We have a very different infrustructure here than you do in Europe. Much larger landmass. Its a coverage game here.
 
Do US residents actually call Mexico? I usually just drive around the block to find some for help with side work. I mean, they are already here.

Not trying to be mean, just saying.

You're not serious right? I'm just going to assume you're not being serious.
 
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300MB/month? Why even offer this?
there are tons of uses for gadgets like iot, they may transmit as little as a couple of bytes a day. I'm planning to install a monitoring device on my remote property, unless there was broken in or something like that, it just pings the server report alive every 10 minutes.
 
Really curious to see what happens when the average American customer will discover, over the course of the next 2 years or so, how much an iPhone really costs.

If their bill is roughly the same... will it matter?

They used to spend $90 a month for service and the included iPhone subsidy.

Now they will have a $70 service fee and a $20 iPhone payment plan.

They'll end up paying the same amount of money each month... but now the costs are a little more transparent.

I don't think iPhone owners will suddenly switch to some cheapo phone because of this. They actually were paying for the iPhone the whole time... they just didn't realize it.

Now they'll know.
 
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New plans are live now. Still debating here as I average just over a 1 gb a month, have lots of access to wifi. But occasionally (maybe two months a year) go 3+. With rollover I should be good, but not sure it is worth the $7 savings or so a month (after FAN discount) to drop from 3 to 2 gb plan.
 
I was at the 15GB plan (had the 10, got the bonus free 5GB)...and nothing has changed. I assume that is correct, right?
 
I'm in the exact same situation. I got this retention plan 2 weeks ago. I plan on calling or tweeting (that's how I got a response the first time) and laying out the scenario that if I had waited and threatened to switch now, they would offer me 15GB for $80 since a 10GB plan no longer exists. Worst case, they say no and I sign up for T-Mobile test drive and see how their service in my area is.

Who did you tweet? T Mobile doesn't look half bad at this point.
 
Who did you tweet? T Mobile doesn't look half bad at this point.

I expressed my thoughts about switching to T-Mobile and tagged @ATTCares. They replied and asked me to DM me account number and phone number, which I did, and then they called me and offered me the 10GB plan for $80 ($20 off the public price). They also waived the $15 overage charge that I hit on the last day of my billing cycle, which I appreciated.
 
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This is so wrong on all level (at least when comparing apples-to-apples, i.e. within-home-country usage) that I won't even bother to correct it...



So true. Really curious to see what happens when the average American customer will discover, over the course of the next 2 years or so, how much an iPhone really costs. Not sure he/she, and ultimately APPL's bottom-line and market valuation, will appreciate...
Nothing will happen because the average price of their bills isn't really changing. It's interesting how so many assume that ending subsidies means people are somehow going to be coming out of pocket $650 upfront to get their iPhones and Apple is going to be hurting.

T-Mobile has been doing this for two years and yet still sells tons of iPhones. Americans only care about upfront costs and the end of $199 subsidies has been replaced with "$0 Down" which actually helps Apple sell even MORE iPhones because it also makes it much easier for people to upgrade every year now rather than waiting two years. Just about every carrier now has some sort of "Pay $0 upfront for the latest iPhone, make payments for 12 months, trade-in, buy the next iPhones for $0 upfront again". Don't be surprised to see Apple have record breaking iPhone sales again this year.
 
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It does suck, isn't your gas 7-8 a gallon though? I feel like there is always something to balance out costs.... I do wish the us would do away with pay for this level to use this service...if I want a 300mb plan and use Pandora all day and teather my iPad too how is that my carriers business?
Yep. Overall CoL for them isn't any better than here. That's almost 4 times as much as we pay for gas.
 
When I go to change my plan it says that my CURRENT plan has the following features:

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I'm on the Promo 30gb plan. So I guess I still get calling to Canada and Mexico for free?

Fine print says: Unlimited Talk to Canada and Mexico: Only included on the new Mobile Share Value promotional plans 15GB and above (launched on or after August 15, 2015). For phones only. Includes unlimited International Long Distance (ILD) calling from Domestic Coverage Area to Mexico and Canada only. You may be charged for calls to special or premium service numbers in Canada or Mexico.

This is confusing. I'll have to give them a call.
 
When I go to change my plan it says that my CURRENT plan has the following features:

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I'm on the Promo 30gb plan. So I guess I still get calling to Canada and Mexico for free?

Fine print says: Unlimited Talk to Canada and Mexico: Only included on the new Mobile Share Value promotional plans 15GB and above (launched on or after August 15, 2015). For phones only. Includes unlimited International Long Distance (ILD) calling from Domestic Coverage Area to Mexico and Canada only. You may be charged for calls to special or premium service numbers in Canada or Mexico.

This is confusing. I'll have to give them a call.

It is saying that your current promo plan includes unlimited text, pictures and video messages from the US to select countries. In order to get the unlimited talk, you need to be on one of their new promotional plans. So you will not get unlimited talk to Canada and Mexico unless you drop your old promo plan and get the new one.
 
It is saying that your current promo plan includes unlimited text, pictures and video messages from the US to select countries. In order to get the unlimited talk, you need to be on one of their new promotional plans. So you will not get unlimited talk to Canada and Mexico unless you drop your old promo plan and get the new one.

But it's listing it as a feature under my current plan.

I called AT&T and a manager noted my account saying to credit my account if I'm charged for international calls to Canada. *shrug*
 
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