Great. They want customers to help subsidize AT&T's $3 billion (plus 4G spectrum worth about $1 billion) breakup fee to T-Mobile.
exactly.... people get angry because of dishonesty from corporations..... 39.99 for 450 minutes? LOL really how much does it cocst really????? so i am going to take advantage until unlimited is gone...They could have just been honest and say, "This 4G upgrade to our network is costing us a fortune. We need you to pitch in."
That's another great point..they really need pooled data.
Grimsrud said:I bet they'll raise the prices again once their LTE deployment nears completion. I'm so sick of these clowns and the US mobile market in general, it's ridiculous that iPhone users have one GSM carrier to get 3G data on.
This.
There's absolutely no incentive for any of the telecoms (whether it's AT&T or Verizon or Comcast or Charter or Sprint) to deal fairly with customers. Where can you go? You'll just trade the devil you know for the devil you don't know. The U.S. government seems to have no interest in improving the situation; until that time comes, the telecoms are free to do whatever they want.
The least AT&T could do for that price is to throw in unlimited texts for free. The service costs them next to nothing.
Do you realize you're out in left field by yourself with the special kids here?I HSPA+ is not 4G, it's 3G.
IIRC, your Verizon Thunderbolt essentially has two separate "phones" inside of it, so that it can do data and voice at the same time. And it apparently works so well, it's the only Verizon phone to do that, and Verizon doesn't promote the fact that it can.I have a Verizon phone, And use AT&T's crippled network on my iPhone for work. My HTC Thunderbolt can talk, surf, text, and tether at the same time on 3G. Thanks
IIRC, your Verizon Thunderbolt essentially has two separate "phones" inside of it, so that it can do data and voice at the same time. And it apparently works so well, it's the only Verizon phone to do that, and Verizon doesn't promote the fact that it can.
Do you realize you're out in left field by yourself with the special kids here?
The standards body, ITU; carriers; and the manufacturers all call HSPA+ 4G.
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Exactly. There is no competition here as the iPhone is not interchangeable between the 3 providers. Will LTE make this possible in any way?
That $199 phone they sell they're making an approximate $300-400 loss off so use your brain for a second to work out how much cash they have to bring in not only to pay for that subsidy but to also cover the cost of the service they're selling on top.
Want someone to blame for the current situation - blame customers who refuse to pay full price for a phone. Those people are the problem, the same people who can't work their head around why they're so cheap in the first place when on contract.
Exactly. There is no competition here as the iPhone is not interchangeable between the 3 providers. Will LTE make this possible in any way?
Yikes AT&T you guys suck.
Luckily I still carry my unlimited plan from the iPhone 3G for $30. But I barely use that much data. I wish they could offer lower data plan with better prices.
I see no one mentioning the fact that Verizon's same $30 plan gives you less!!!!????!!!!!!!
Verizon - $30/mo for 2GB
AT&T - $30/mo for 3GB
Not to mention, the iPhone 4s on AT&T will have HSPA+. AT&T looks way better than Verizon now.
I have the grandfathered unlimited data plan with AT&T, and I'm in an area with excellent coverage and can confirm that AT&T definitely throttles data!
Since switching to Verizon from AT&T, my 3G speed has DROPPED to where it takes 2+ minutes to install apps from the App Store (vs 30-45 seconds on AT&T), plus my bill has gone up $10 for the same quantity of service (450 minutes, 2GB of data, unlimited texts). Yay Verizon.Since switching to Verizon from AT&T I've dropped no calls and taking a road trip, I had good 3G coverage in the middle of nowhere.
Since switching to Verizon from AT&T, my 3G speed has DROPPED to where it takes 2+ minutes to install apps from the App Store (vs 30-45 seconds on AT&T), plus my bill has gone up $10 for the same quantity of service (450 minutes, 2GB of data, unlimited texts). Yay Verizon.
If you actually live in an area where AT&T isn't a problem. Verizon you get better 3G coverage, tech support and generally a better network. Since switching to Verizon from AT&T I've dropped no calls and taking a road trip, I had good 3G coverage in the middle of nowhere. Not forgetting AT&T was rated worst carrier 2 years in a row, partially blamed at the iPhone for causing their network to slow to a crawl...
exactly.... YES!!!! and pooled minutes... im tired of being scammed....