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Great. They want customers to help subsidize AT&T's $3 billion (plus 4G spectrum worth about $1 billion) breakup fee to T-Mobile.

This.

There's absolutely no incentive for any of the telecoms (whether it's AT&T or Verizon or Comcast or Charter or Sprint) to deal fairly with customers. Where can you go? You'll just trade the devil you know for the devil you don't know. The U.S. government seems to have no interest in improving the situation; until that time comes, the telecoms are free to do whatever they want.

The least AT&T could do for that price is to throw in unlimited texts for free. The service costs them next to nothing.
 
i currently have unlimited but am thinking of switching to the 3gb plan for the same $30 a month. i get throttled as soon as i hit 2gb anyway. the past three months now i have had to go the last week of the bill cycle with my speed being extremely slow.
 
They could have just been honest and say, "This 4G upgrade to our network is costing us a fortune. We need you to pitch in."
exactly.... people get angry because of dishonesty from corporations..... 39.99 for 450 minutes? LOL really how much does it cocst really????? so i am going to take advantage until unlimited is gone...

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That's another great point..they really need pooled data.

exactly.... YES!!!! and pooled minutes... im tired of being scammed....
 
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Grimsrud said:
I bet they'll raise the prices again once their LTE deployment nears completion. I'm so sick of these clowns and the US mobile market in general, it's ridiculous that iPhone users have one GSM carrier to get 3G data on.

Exactly. There is no competition here as the iPhone is not interchangeable between the 3 providers. Will LTE make this possible in any way?
 
This.

There's absolutely no incentive for any of the telecoms (whether it's AT&T or Verizon or Comcast or Charter or Sprint) to deal fairly with customers. Where can you go? You'll just trade the devil you know for the devil you don't know. The U.S. government seems to have no interest in improving the situation; until that time comes, the telecoms are free to do whatever they want.

The least AT&T could do for that price is to throw in unlimited texts for free. The service costs them next to nothing.

straight talk it is soon!!!. my att bill is only 48 dollars right now with unlimited data... because of 4 people family plan... but my tolerance for att is decreasing
 
Rip off as usual.

$10 per Gigabyte, are they ****in' insane? They're blatantly raping their customers in the ass with those prices, so is Verizon. Try making it a $1 per Gigabyte and maybe I'll consider switching from my Unlimited Plan.
 
I have a Verizon phone, And use AT&T's crippled network on my iPhone for work. My HTC Thunderbolt can talk, surf, text, and tether at the same time on 3G. Thanks
IIRC, your Verizon Thunderbolt essentially has two separate "phones" inside of it, so that it can do data and voice at the same time. And it apparently works so well, it's the only Verizon phone to do that, and Verizon doesn't promote the fact that it can.
 
The usual rip-off by US cell phone providers.

In Europe you get a cell phone plan for less than half what you pay in the US - and with unlimited data.

AT & T - no, thanks.
 
I really hope the next iPhone IS NOT LTE. Why? Because everyone and their mother now has an iPhone and with everyone on LTE the speeds will only decrease to what is probably a good day on HSPA+. I would like it if Apple made the next iPhone HSPA+ 21Mbps or 42Mbps. Though on a phone, how much faster does one need?

Once again, 99.9% of the people complaining will get to maintain their unlimited or 2GB plan anyway.
 
IIRC, your Verizon Thunderbolt essentially has two separate "phones" inside of it, so that it can do data and voice at the same time. And it apparently works so well, it's the only Verizon phone to do that, and Verizon doesn't promote the fact that it can.

The HTC Thunderbolt has SVDO, EV-DO, LTE700 and 1xRTT radios in it.


Do you realize you're out in left field by yourself with the special kids here?

The standards body, ITU; carriers; and the manufacturers all call HSPA+ 4G.

I heard the ITU re-defined what they call 4G. Got a link to an article that says this?
 
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Exactly. There is no competition here as the iPhone is not interchangeable between the 3 providers. Will LTE make this possible in any way?

No. Each will use a slightly different flavor of LTE. But disagree about competition. The problem is that even at these prices their are plenty of customers willing to pay & limited bandwidth. If wireless was easier, less expensive to deploy prices would be lower.
 
That $199 phone they sell they're making an approximate $300-400 loss off so use your brain for a second to work out how much cash they have to bring in not only to pay for that subsidy but to also cover the cost of the service they're selling on top.

Want someone to blame for the current situation - blame customers who refuse to pay full price for a phone. Those people are the problem, the same people who can't work their head around why they're so cheap in the first place when on contract.

Haha. Get outta here.

You act like AT&T is on the verge of going bankrupt because they're so good to their customers and always give them what they want. And their customers are greedy spoiled brats.

Quite the contrary. AT&T is making record profit thanks to the bills they send us each month. But they want MORE. They don't want their customers to get used to using the devices they already paid for, whenever they want and however they want.

They want their customers to pay them to use their devices for as much as AT&T allows them to in order to maximize profit.

You really think AT&T is implementing tiered pricing because they are losing money and are about to go under? Not a chance. They introduced tiered pricing to maximize profit because they know that in the future, everything will be digital and they can make a killing by charging their customers for how much they use rather than charging them to let them use as much as they want.
 
Exactly. There is no competition here as the iPhone is not interchangeable between the 3 providers. Will LTE make this possible in any way?

Once LTE kicks in, we'll use up 5GB limit the first half of the day, and wonder what to do for the rest of the months. This whole cell phone plans are 21st century version of long distance charges from the 80s. With the same AT&T!
 
Yikes AT&T you guys suck. :mad:

Luckily I still carry my unlimited plan from the iPhone 3G for $30. But I barely use that much data. I wish they could offer lower data plan with better prices.
 
Yikes AT&T you guys suck. :mad:

Luckily I still carry my unlimited plan from the iPhone 3G for $30. But I barely use that much data. I wish they could offer lower data plan with better prices.

I see no one mentioning the fact that Verizon's same $30 plan gives you less!!!!????!!!!!!!

Verizon - $30/mo for 2GB
AT&T - $30/mo for 3GB

Not to mention, the iPhone 4s on AT&T will have HSPA+. AT&T looks way better than Verizon now.
 
For all the people crying like a baby over this, most will still stay on AT&T, some will switch over to Verizon (where the savings aren't really exponential), less will go to sprint.

I use about 5 gigs a month on my unlimited AT&T plan and have never been throttled.
 
I see no one mentioning the fact that Verizon's same $30 plan gives you less!!!!????!!!!!!!

Verizon - $30/mo for 2GB
AT&T - $30/mo for 3GB

Not to mention, the iPhone 4s on AT&T will have HSPA+. AT&T looks way better than Verizon now.

If you actually live in an area where AT&T isn't a problem. Verizon you get better 3G coverage, tech support and generally a better network. Since switching to Verizon from AT&T I've dropped no calls and taking a road trip, I had good 3G coverage in the middle of nowhere. Not forgetting AT&T was rated worst carrier 2 years in a row, partially blamed at the iPhone for causing their network to slow to a crawl...
 
Does throttling always occur at 2GB for any user?

I have the grandfathered unlimited data plan with AT&T, and I'm in an area with excellent coverage and can confirm that AT&T definitely throttles data!

I also have the grandfathered unlimited data plan ($30/mo). I have never gone above 2 GB actually. Once I was at 1.8 GB, but normally around 300-500 MB. But I keep the unlimited plan as a future-proof type thing as it is a given that data usage on a xG network will only increase moving forward.

Do they always throttle *any* user that goes above 2 GB? Or just users that consistently go above 2 GB with an unlimited plan?
 
Since switching to Verizon from AT&T I've dropped no calls and taking a road trip, I had good 3G coverage in the middle of nowhere.
Since switching to Verizon from AT&T, my 3G speed has DROPPED to where it takes 2+ minutes to install apps from the App Store (vs 30-45 seconds on AT&T), plus my bill has gone up $10 for the same quantity of service (450 minutes, 2GB of data, unlimited texts). Yay Verizon.

The *only* reason I didn't port back to AT&T when I saw how slow Verizon's 3G network is was because Verizon would unlock my iPhone 4s for when I'm working overseas for a few weeks, and AT&T wouldn't.
 
Since switching to Verizon from AT&T, my 3G speed has DROPPED to where it takes 2+ minutes to install apps from the App Store (vs 30-45 seconds on AT&T), plus my bill has gone up $10 for the same quantity of service (450 minutes, 2GB of data, unlimited texts). Yay Verizon.

AT&T 3G is good for downloading files, but for browsing the web... smh.
 
If you actually live in an area where AT&T isn't a problem. Verizon you get better 3G coverage, tech support and generally a better network. Since switching to Verizon from AT&T I've dropped no calls and taking a road trip, I had good 3G coverage in the middle of nowhere. Not forgetting AT&T was rated worst carrier 2 years in a row, partially blamed at the iPhone for causing their network to slow to a crawl...

Well yes, that goes for any carrier. But it seems no one is mentioning the fact that Verizon is more $$$ for less now. I know many places with excellent AT&T coverage and poor Verizon coverage.

Consumer reports doesn't mean anything btw. Obviously AT&T is doing something right if they are still the second largest carrier in the country. The ones leaving are the cry babies who are being throttled.
 
exactly.... YES!!!! and pooled minutes... im tired of being scammed....

They already do pooled minutes . . . if you are a corp premier customer. It's kind of funny to keep seeing my minutes reset throughout the month. I've stopped bothering to check.
 
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