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An iPad 2.0 in November is somewhat out of the question I think. The major reason is it would NUKE all iPad 1.0 Christmas Sales. If the 2.0 was on sale for Christmas, I think a bad supply situation would made significantly worse. Also, all iDevices have had a lifetime of one year (see below), so since this was released in April 2010, then an April-May 2011 is more realistic.
I agree on the one year trend. But Apple is not stupid enough to cannibalize their own sales. Their "old" models stop when new come out. Occasionally they have a stockpile to get rid of, Mac Minis at Costco a couple times, like that. But not often.
 
I just wish someone would ask them or Apple WTF happened to the stop and restart unlimited data plan. That is what sold me on spending the extra cash on the 3G version. It's total BS that they pulled that option almost as soon as people started using it.

You can start and stop and use unlimited data, it is just much more expensive.

You use 9 gigs in a month it will cost you $95. 20 gigs will cost you $205 a month.

You didn't think AT&T/Apple were going to keep the unlimited price the same forever did you? That seems an unreasonable expectation.

So just so you feel better, you do have an unlimited data plan with the ability to start and stop. The price for data has simply gone up. Even better you only pay for most of the chunks you use!

So your unlimited plan may cost you only $25 one month and $75 the next month!
 
marksman said:
You didn't think AT&T/Apple were going to keep the unlimited price the same forever did you? That seems an unreasonable expectation.

I think it's perfectly reasonable for the price to remain the same for a lot longer than two or three weeks after a fairly expensive product first hits the market, using unlimited data for $30 a month as a selling point. But AT&T really appreciates you being an apologist for them.
 
It does make sense. A new iPhone always drops with a major revision of the OS (iOS 4.0 - iPhone 4). If Apple are working from history, I'm hoping the iPad will follow the same pattern.

I sold on my iPad (full price for second hand = epic win) in hope that this is going to happen. iOS4 is really what will make the iPad truly useful for me, so I might aswell wait and get new hardware to boot.

Excellent! Even if it doesn't happen, you're not out anything. Good luck!
 
If that's the case then Apple will settle with less than 10% of the market once Android and WebOS catches up.

But I think this is a money grab by Apple while their iPad is hot and there is no competition. It's just a passive content consumption device. There's not a lot they can do to it to justify its continued high price over years and years.

Do you ever talk to people outside this forum? Dude, everyone wants an iPad--People that barely know what a computer is to uber-geeks. It's going to be Apple's biggest mass-market product ever.
 
I think it's perfectly reasonable for the price to remain the same for a lot longer than two or three weeks after a fairly expensive product first hits the market, using unlimited data for $30 a month as a selling point. But AT&T really appreciates you being an apologist for them.

Doesn't matter. At some point in time it was going to change, and someone would have bought an iPad 3g right before it changed. So someone would have been impacted by this whenever it happened.

It is not reasonable to think the price would never change, regardless of when it did not change.

If someone bought an iPad 3G a year from now and the price changed one month after they bought it, they would be in the same exact position.

The point is having realistic expectations in life and not making inferences or assumptions that don't exist.
 
Im sure there are a lot of wifi + 3g users who havent activated a 3g plan yet

I am one of those 3g owners who have not activated an ATT plan. I purchased the 3g model because I wanted convenient internet access when I am on vacation. The iPad 3G fit the bill quite nicely thank you very much and I can't wait to test it out when I am on vacation later this summer.
 
You can start and stop and use unlimited data, it is just much more expensive.

You use 9 gigs in a month it will cost you $95. 20 gigs will cost you $205 a month.

You didn't think AT&T/Apple were going to keep the unlimited price the same forever did you? That seems an unreasonable expectation.

So just so you feel better, you do have an unlimited data plan with the ability to start and stop. The price for data has simply gone up. Even better you only pay for most of the chunks you use!

So your unlimited plan may cost you only $25 one month and $75 the next month!

I'd fire you if you were a salesman for AT&T......
 
My guess is it will be $499 for the Wifi+3G model.

Apple could make people pay extra this generation as they have no competition. This won't be true - all the proposed tablets include 3G and are at about $499.

This I would approve of, but doubt will happen.
 
Out of all those proposed tablets, half have dropped out. Once the iPad was on the market they knew they had to rethink their product. I think few will make it before the X-mas rush. Next year others will be there but apple will also pull their update so the price of a new iPad isn't going anywhere this year.

As far as 3G, I've used it the first 2 months, $15 version, then stopped. When I go on vacation I'll start it up again for that month. Yes, I thinl it is worth it.
 
You know, I do not know why Apple would feel motivated to roll out a Gen 2 product at this (that) point. There is no real competition and the market isn't nearly saturated to the point for a "prime the pump" upgrade. A lot of makers (cars, TVs, cell phones) could give us their R&D department's laundry list of new features well before they typically do. The marketing wing of the corporations, however, want to maintain vertical product profiles and to only give out enough new features to keep the market humming, but not so much that they potentially have a few years of "nothing new here, time to move one to something else" conditions.

My prediction: If you want an iPad type device and have the need, buy it now. There probably won't be much else hardware wise from Apple before next spring, if then. When you see a new product hit the market (Slate, Droidpad, whatever) then you can start holding your pennies for the next Apple pad device.

The iPhone 3G hit to replace the original iPhone when there wasn't any competition aswell though.
 
Whenever a new IOS was released for the iPhone, new hardware came with it, i expect the same with the iPad. Expect new iPads for christmas.
 
I hope not.

Many people prefer having the cheaper wifi only option.

True but I look at the pricing in New Zealand - is the extra chip really make the device cost $200 more than the one without? that has to be one of the worlds most expensive chips if that were the case! How can Apple justify such a massive leap from the Wifi-Only to the 3G and Wifi?
 
True but I look at the pricing in New Zealand - is the extra chip really make the device cost $200 more than the one without? that has to be one of the worlds most expensive chips if that were the case! How can Apple justify such a massive leap from the Wifi-Only to the 3G and Wifi?

Intel CPUs not withstanding?

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The iPad would probably do well here if it started at $600, not $800.
 
Intel CPUs not withstanding?

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The iPad would probably do well here if it started at $600, not $800.

You're comparing Apple to other hardware in the market, I'm talking about one Apple product compared to another Apple product.

I'm looking at getting an iPad - the 16GB 3G model - apparently Telecom XT Network will be getting microsim's shortly :D
 
You're comparing Apple to other hardware in the market, I'm talking about one Apple product compared to another Apple product.

I'm looking at getting an iPad - the 16GB 3G model - apparently Telecom XT Network will be getting microsim's shortly :D

No, you just said "that has to be one of the worlds most expensive chips if that were the case!", a computer chip could be anything.

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Most of the providers here are getting micro sims AFAIK. I'll be getting a 2D one, mostly out of principle.
 
No, you just said "that has to be one of the worlds most expensive chips if that were the case!", a computer chip could be anything.

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Most of the providers here are getting micro sims AFAIK. I'll be getting a 2D one, mostly out of principle.

Yeah but 2 Degree's network royally sucks when it comes to data - XT Network, for all its faults, has nation wide 3G coverage where as when I had Vodafone I would be on the train from Silverstream into Upper Hutt and constantly fall back to 2G - heck, check out the map in my area of the woods - 3G Extended isn't even close to their 2G coverage and forget about regular 3G! Vodafone sucks giant rocks!
 
I also think Apple will consolidate the line to 3G on all models. Prices may have come down enough to offer one at $499.

The big question is, for the second generation iPad, will Apple increase the screen resolution like the iPhone 4 (I could see 1600x1200), and would Apple offer more screen sizes? We shall see.
 
I also think Apple will consolidate the line to 3G on all models. Prices may have come down enough to offer one at $499.

The big question is, for the second generation iPad, will Apple increase the screen resolution like the iPhone 4 (I could see 1600x1200), and would Apple offer more screen sizes? We shall see.

It depends on what they see as a trend; if they see it as a complimentary product to the iMac, MacBook, iPhone and so forth them you might possibly see Apple keep the same form factor and tweak things a little rather than giving it a major overhaul. The main use for me when it comes to the iPad is for use as a Kindle reader given that Kindle refuses to ship their devices to New Zealand :(
 
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