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Before I start making reports, I'll throw this question to the inter-webs and see what the mob thinks.

When I was with Verizon, I got service everywhere. Never a dropped call.

With AT&T, I get no service inside big retail stores. If I'm at Target, Walmart, K-Mart, the grocery store, etc, I get no bars and the "No Service" message. As soon as I'm outside the store, I get 100% 3G service and Bars.

My question is, is it resonable to expect AT&T to try to improve service inside stores?
 
Looking at the info tab in the app, one person spamming one location has less effect than multiple people sending reports. It looks like AT&T will aggregate the data and will look for a cluster.

My question is, is it resonable to expect AT&T to try to improve service inside stores?

Hard to say. Sometimes, it's a structural design that causes the lack of service. Look up the general principles of a Faraday cage: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_cage
 
How can either of you say this? You know nothing about what they do. Granted neither do I but what if they are doing this for the better? Give it time before you know them for "trying"
 
I have a feeling this exercise by AT&T Mobility is a lot like pushing the "Cross-the-Street" button on New York City stoplights. i.e. Makes you think your helping, but in reality having no effect on anything! :)
 
Wait so, how are we supposed to report No Coverage in an area with, well, no coverage?

>Users can report issues at the time of their occurrence or at a later time, and can also request follow-up text messages confirming that their reports have been received.
 
Oh how nice, instead of AT&T doing the work themselves they are having us do it for free.

**** you AT&T

AFAIK, AT&T is the only carrier to have a simple method like this to report trouble spots. What, do you think Verizon actually has a guy walking around the country with a phone attached to his ear asking "Can you hear me now?"

No company has the manpower to check every nook and cranny of the country to see how coverage is. They can either just let whatever's there or not there stay and not improve it, or they can gather input from their millions of customers who do travel to every nook and cranny of the country. AT&T has chosen to do the latter.
 
Oh how nice, instead of AT&T doing the work themselves they are having us do it for free.

**** you AT&T


Since you are the one having the problem, submit the report. they can send technicians all over the country and they may not experience problems in the same areas, but if you can pinpoint it for them it may be easier for them to fix the issue.

its especially nice since it pinpoints the spot on a map for them. there are spots that i sometimes have issues, but say 500 feet away its fine. not saying we'll see improvements overnight, but definitely a step in the right direction as far as I'm concerned.
 
good idea

I think this is a good idea. Hopefully people use this app and after a few weeks of issues AT&T can review the data and start fixing the areas that have problems. I know several spots where I do not get service in DC and I plan on reporting those spots right away.
 
Stats

They should allow the public to view a history of other reported problems within that area. If not, then someone else should create an app that does that and then forward the trouble tickets to at&t. Then at least we'll all know how many people are experiencing the same issues.
 
I think this is a good idea. Hopefully people use this app and after a few weeks of issues AT&T can review the data and start fixing the areas that have problems. I know several spots where I do not get service in DC and I plan on reporting those spots right away.

I'm not sure if this will work at all. AT&T knows that NYC (where I am), SF, and Chicago are their two biggest problems and they don't seem to be doing anything about it. It does not help that two of the three are the most important places regarding tech.

I'll give AT&T the benefit of the doubt as I hear Long Island is pretty good. OTOH my kid sister goes to Cornell and is forced to use Verizon because AT&T has no coverage there.
 
Oh how nice, instead of AT&T doing the work themselves they are having us do it for free.

**** you AT&T

Sorry, but I don't agree. Their techs can't be everywhere and this way they know where to send their techs to look for issues.
 
who thinks this will make the top 50 free app list?

i vote number 1 free app haha..
 
I'm not sure if this will work at all. AT&T knows that NYC (where I am), SF, and Chicago are their two biggest problems and they don't seem to be doing anything about it. It does not help that two of the three are the most important places regarding tech.

I'll give AT&T the benefit of the doubt as I hear Long Island is pretty good. OTOH my kid sister goes to Cornell and is forced to use Verizon because AT&T has no coverage there.

Didn't they just roll out a new spectrum in NYC?
 
Angry much? Sending a submission takes all of 10 seconds. If you choose not to, then you are no worse off than you are now.

I see you are on Long Island, where your attitude runs rampant (lived there for years so I can speak to it). I'm sure others will gladly submit on your behalf. By the way, my 3G service on Long Island was excellent, so I'm assuming you are in Nassau county?

I live on Long Island, in Great Neck, and my service is good there. I work in Jersey City, and have to leave my phone on Edge due to terrible 3G service. I take the LIRR to Manhattan every day, and I get a kick out of, on the ride home, the Service is always coming in and going out. The second to last stop on my way to Great Neck is Little Neck, which is technically NYC (Queens), and I get NO bars or service at all !

I also think that there is a lot of false advertising in the cell phone business, This whole "More Bars in More Places" is a complete lie. I can't tell you how many times I've had all 5 bars, and couldn't make a call or download a website. I've had my phone on 3G in Jersey City, it shows all 5 bars, and I've missed plenty of phone calls. On Edge, I never miss calls.

All that being said, I think AT&T's service on a whole is quite good, much better that Sprint's, which I used to have, but not as good as Verizon's. Verizon isn't lying when they claim they are better than AT&T. I do think this App is a good idea, hopefully they will listen and make their service that much better. #2 isn't bad, but I'd be thrilled if they closed the gap with Verizon.
 
Didn't they just roll out a new spectrum in NYC?

That's true, there was an article here about it. But that does not excuse the fact that even if that was implemented, people continue to get dropped calls and the dreaded 'call failed.' Walking down Manhattan in broad daylight and I get a dropped call? I pay a premium, just as other iPhone users do on the AT&T network and the service shouldn't go from bad to worse.
 
I think it's actually very nice to see that AT&T finally realized that the only way to compete with evolving competitors is to... well, evolve.

This is a great step forwards, and I have to say that AT&T has renewed my respect for them, as little as that is worth, seeing as I don't even live in the states :p
 
I suppose I'm being too cynical, but part of me suspects that AT&T has only created this app to reduce the amount of time their reps spend listing to complaints about dropped calls. I know I've spent a lot of time on the phone with them over the last year. While they're always very cordial and say things like they are "sending out crews to look at towers", etc, nothing changes. In fact, where I live (about an hour south of NYC) things have gotten far worse - not better.

No, you are dead on. Long story, but relevant.

I live right in the middle of what is supposed to be top notch 3G voice and data coverage. Not only do I not have 3G service as indicated, but all phones owned by any ATT customer physically at my home routinely drop into GPRS data.

I called AT&T to inquire and pointed out that the closest fringe area was 3 miles or more in any one direction. This meant according to their own maps, I was in fact 3 miles deep into what was indicated as perfect 3G coverage.

So things were escalated after a few calls totaling several hours to another tier of support.

This gentleman told me I was looking at the voice coverage map, and that I should look at the data coverage map.

So, I looked at the 3G data map, and while the coverage geometry did differ from the voice, I was still 3 miles deep into what was indicated as perfect 3G coverage. Voice or Data.

At this point, they said they were sending an engineer out to take readings.

Knowing that it might be a simple tuning or positioning issue and that every GPS map company on earth reports the wrong position of my physical address by about 1000 ft, I gave them specific GPS coordinates for the address.

A common theme through all of this is that I was promised follow up calls, and never got a single one... I always had to call to follow up with them.

So I call back and get in touch with the tech, and he said the engineer came out and there was perfect 3G coverage.

Hmmm... maybe something is wrong with my phone... so I check the other 3 people who live in the household with 3G capable phones, all different models.

Same problem.

A buddy came over with a 3G phone know to work properly in 3G areas... same problem.

My phone at work in a 3G area, no problem.

I called ATT back with this information including the phone numbers of the other individuals experiencing the same issues at the location. They indicated they would send another truck out to take readings.

My gut feeling at this point was, the guy was at the GPS location 1000ft up the road, not my address.

So I asked them to have the guy give me a call and pull in my driveway to take readings, just to be sure he was at the correct location. They refused.

A few days go by and I contact them again, this time the tech tried to tell me there were no 3G towers in my area, nor would they be in the near future.

Interesting...

Finally the tech admits his maps don't match the coverage maps, and there seems to be coverage showing where he shows no towers for miles.

He contacts his supervisor finds his maps are incorrect. Go figure.

Eventually he transfers me to his supervisor who pretty much told me they have spent enough time on the issue and there was nothing they could do.

For the record, an acceptable solution to me would have been:

1) Correct the coverage map

2) Fix the issue

They chose to let me out of my contract on all lines rather than fix the issue or fix the coverage map.

This was 1 1/2 years ago, and the situation is the same today.

To me, this application seems like a diversion tactic.
 
Hopefully if you're reporting a network outage or something the app stores your submission, and then sends the info the next time you open the app in an area where there is service or wifi
 
How cute... ATT is starting to pretend to care. :) Good step forward, guys.

I'll 2nd that there main emphasis is going to be in major metropolitan area's. and than from there they'll ramp up to newer technology.

I still say once verizon comes online with GSM it will be something to see and how they deal with the problems

iPhone on Verizon will be a site to see and hopefully it comes true, but I have my doubts.

Just imagine how many people would jump from AT&T to Verizon:eek:
 
Wait so, how are we supposed to report No Coverage in an area with, well, no coverage?

You are not supposed to report it. Since you can't send the report the company does not have to fix the issue. This is smart, then they can report to the world that they don't have gaps in their coverage. ;)

Take that Verizon. LOL.

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Dear Mr. Jobs,

Please be working on an iPhone for Verizon. I am a Verizon customer and I really want an iPhone.

Sincerely,

Two and a half years patiently waiting.
 
You are not supposed to report it. Since you can't send the report the company does not have to fix the issue. This is smart, then they can report to the world that they don't have gaps in their coverage. ;)

Take that Verizon. LOL.

Yeah, why dont you download it, then say negative things.
You can choose where the occurence happened, no matter where you are. So if at home you have crappy quality, you can later submit the report from somewhere else using the map.
 
Before I start making reports, I'll throw this question to the inter-webs and see what the mob thinks.

When I was with Verizon, I got service everywhere. Never a dropped call.

With AT&T, I get no service inside big retail stores. If I'm at Target, Walmart, K-Mart, the grocery store, etc, I get no bars and the "No Service" message. As soon as I'm outside the store, I get 100% 3G service and Bars.

My question is, is it resonable to expect AT&T to try to improve service inside stores?

If you are getting 100% outside, then what does that say about the service? Is this a function of the technology being used by the cell carriers? I know for a fact that one previous company I worked at had to install repeaters inside their buildings for T-mobile service. And I beleive T-mobile uses the same technology as At&T.

I have Verizon and I get service everywhere.
 
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