People looking to upgrade to iPhone 5 should be happy.. If it's delayed, that means they're taking their time and hopefully making a great product. Hoping for a bigger screen and antenna back inside!
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AT&T Rep: Apple Has Told Us No New iPhone in June or July
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Also, I'm more concerned with iOS 5 and what it'll bring, than I am with what new specs the iPhone 5 will have.
Phone 5 release is August 2011
August people...August 26th to be exact!
I just heard from a informed source!
August people...August 26th to be exact!
I just heard from a informed source!
I don't understand one thing. Why can't Apple confirm this themselves? That way people will at least know what they can do. Either you wait or you move onto to another device.
because if apple is going to say a new iphone is coming, only a fool will buy the old one at full price
i bet a new is coming in June but apple doesn't want to see a sales drop off. anyone that asks me i tell them that expect a new one in June and don't buy the 4 since it's stone age tech by now
I would have to say its because apple was in production fixing the Iphone 4 for 8 months just to get the white one in stores and i would have to say that put them behind on production of a new phone.
Yeah, it's 2010 hardware and people keep saying its revolutionary. Doesn't look that way at all anymore with dual core Android phones left and right.
Point proven by Nintendo's silly move to tell everyone about Project Cafe. Wiis weren't selling before and now they'll sell even less.
All Part of the Plan
I suspect that there are a couple of reasons for the change.
1 - there's a huge spike in sales with the release of any iOS device, having the iPad in the first half of the year and the iPhone in the second half of the year better levels the demand, the time required by the Apple team, and better levels traffic patterns in the stores.
2 - The iPod is becoming less and less important to Apple. Every iPhone includes and iPod, every iPad includes an iPod. In the past year we've seen something like a 17% decrease in sales of the iPod, with over 50% of them being the iPod Touch. The iPod classic is on it's last legs, the shuffle is the only click wheel iPod left, and a 2GB iPod Nano would be a compelling option, and then Apple is done with the traditional click wheels, and just have touch screen iPods across the board, with the "ultimate iPod" being the iPhone - all updated in September.
I suspect that there are a couple of reasons for the change.
1 - there's a huge spike in sales with the release of any iOS device, having the iPad in the first half of the year and the iPhone in the second half of the year better levels the demand, the time required by the Apple team, and better levels traffic patterns in the stores.
2 - The iPod is becoming less and less important to Apple. Every iPhone includes and iPod, every iPad includes an iPod. In the past year we've seen something like a 17% decrease in sales of the iPod, with over 50% of them being the iPod Touch. The iPod classic is on it's last legs, the shuffle is the only click wheel iPod left, and a 2GB iPod Nano would be a compelling option, and then Apple is done with the traditional click wheels, and just have touch screen iPods across the board, with the "ultimate iPod" being the iPhone - all updated in September.
Exactly. Good questions: I would love to get a CDMA.GSM world phone. I guess it will have to be a Blackberry.
1.) I doubt anything in Apple's schedule is etched in concrete. They will release new products when they are ready. Apple doesn't really need to follow any specific timetable. They got out of tradeshows so they weren't obligated to release new product at a third-party event. If Apple wants to move the iPhone release around the calendar, you better believe they will do whatever they damned well please.
2.) No one knows. You'll find out when the rest of us do: when Apple announces. The iPhone 5 is a possible candidate (the next likely opportunity would be the iPhone 6). The iPhone 4 (CDMA version) actually has a combo GSM-CDMA Qualcomm chip, although Apple does not utilize the GSM circuitry (there's no SIM card in that handset).
3.) It's entirely possible that Apple would change the release date for iOS to match a change of the release date of new phone hardware. Because they're Apple and they can do whatever they damned well please. They keep their own schedules.
4.) I personally do not think the supply chain can support a simultaneous iPhone/iPod touch release. While Apple can generally release things whenever they want, the iPods are a bit of the exception. iPod sales skyrocket during the holidays, so Apple really needs to have their holiday product line set by November. The more likely scenario (if Apple were to delay the iPhone 5 from June/July) would be a late August/early September release of the iPhone 5 and an October release of the iPod touch.
I could not disagree with you more...
People buy iPhones because they work well, look good, and are cool/in. I would say that 80% of the iPhone buying world doesn't give a damn what's "under the hood." I fail to see how you could possibly think otherwise.
People buy iPhones because they work well, look good, and are cool/in. I would say that 80% of the iPhone buying world doesn't give a damn what's "under the hood." I fail to see how you could possibly think otherwise.
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Meh. I was not upgrading until the "6" anyway.
Meh. I was not upgrading until the "6" anyway.
Yes, once I called AT&T to get information on my partner discount. I called three times and got three different answers. I called about which data plans could be used with my Treo 680 -- I called three times and got three different answers. The moral of the story is: If you don't like what the AT&T rep says just keep calling back until you get the answer you want.
Certainly not news-worthy. Hardly a credible source.
I heard the same thing about Osama Bin Laden from the guy behind the counter at my corner mini-mart. He just got off the phone with the President when I walked up to the counter. Normally I would not believe him, but he stated it as a matter of fact, so I knew it was true.
Even if Apple and Google both make money from ads and apps... Apple still gets $600 per phone.
Apple has the right idea
"Android" can have their marketshare... I don't think it bothers Apple in the least.
Steve Jobs cares about market share for one reason. He knows that the young Google founders whom he was helping and mentoring stole some of his company's best ideas and are now helping his competitors to take the market share that he intended to consume. It always sucks when somebody steals from you and then uses it against you -- especially when its the folks you consider your partners or allies. I'm sure there is more to the story, but I am pretty sure that's how Steve Jobs views it.
I do agree, however, that the smartphone market growth we are seeing with Android is primarily made up of folks who are not interested in having a smartphone but are just picking up the best free or ultra-cheap phone. These phones are typically running a generation-old version of the Android OS and the folks who purchase them are really only interested in their phone ringing when a call comes in (i.e.: if they won't pay for a phone, then they won't pay for an app, and therefore are not tied-to the Android ecosystem).
Also, the PC vs Mac war that Apple has supposedly "lost" has left them being the most profitable PC maker in the world (just counting Mac sales). That's pretty amazing considering they are not #1 on revenue or units sold, but they still make more profit than the folks selling commoditized PCs. Not a bad "consolation prize" for "losing" the PC war. Note that as the PC market is declining, Macs are still showing phenomenal gains.
Secondly, let's not ignore that Apple is still the mobile OS leader worldwide when you count iPod Touch and iPad. Their current dominance with iPad is overwhelming and those buyers are not getting a free or BOGO offer like the folks picking up Android smartphones. Those folks are going to buy apps and buy-in to the iOS ecosystem.
Finally, the smartphone market will very likely not play out like the PC market. Greg Cox wrote a very good piece on the differences on his blog.
As a consumer I am both grateful and weary of the competition. Having a dominant Apple would help put pressure on the publishing companies and Hollywood (I hate publishing and movie industry folks trying to get me to pay for the same content over and over again). At the same time competition keeps Apple from doing as much "planned obsolescence". Competition tends to accelerate development in that it gives you somebody to set pace with and hence we probably get one or two extra features out of every iPhone release and iOS update. I don't think competition drives Apple the way it drives others though. Apple tends to have a proactive plan for the future of their devices that they probably make minor deviations from based on competition. Whether their plan is good (iPhone, iPad), lack-luster (MobileMe) or bad (Ping), they tend to stick to it.
Personally, I wish Microsoft's mobile OS or Web OS was doing better than Android though. I say this because Google does not care about producing a great mobile OS so much as disrupting the market, generating a large footprint, and getting a platform whereby they can deliver ads to users. For Google, Android is a means to an end. MS and HP care more about the quality of the OS experience since the software is their actual product and they are the ones dealing with the customer support issues. Google has a reputation for leaving things unfinished and forgetting about them and not providing direct support.
Omg omg omg omg!
No new iphone in July?
What am I going to do!
And this information comes from where you say, one of those idiot ATT customer reps?
Must be true then!
But who cares really!
People who can't wait a few more months need to get a grip!
After all this leaves so much more time for all the rumors and speculation to get really cranked up!
No new iphone in July?
What am I going to do!
And this information comes from where you say, one of those idiot ATT customer reps?
Must be true then!
But who cares really!
People who can't wait a few more months need to get a grip!
After all this leaves so much more time for all the rumors and speculation to get really cranked up!
Hmm, I used to spend a lot of time waiting for Apple products to come out by checking the MacRumors buyers guides etc. Then I was stung when I got it all wrong and bought an iBook just before they were updated, despite trying really hard for that not to happen!
My conclusion, don't listen to vague rumours and wait around for ages! Buy if you want it now, unless there's almost certain evidence that an upgrade is imminent
My conclusion, don't listen to vague rumours and wait around for ages! Buy if you want it now, unless there's almost certain evidence that an upgrade is imminent
KILL THIS WHOLE THREAD!!! Here's the answer
"we went down to 550" <---THIS
You went down to 550 and expected an early upgrade?
Also, you don't need to be suspended for non-payment, if the payment is late at all they'll consider it for the early upgrade date.
As I mentioned in an earlier comment, my early upgrade is still set for 6/25/2011, and I bought the iPhone 4 on launch day 6/24/2011.
Read through this thread. Look at other sites that picked this up. Look at what you did.
Think next time.
"we went down to 550" <---THIS
You went down to 550 and expected an early upgrade?
Also, you don't need to be suspended for non-payment, if the payment is late at all they'll consider it for the early upgrade date.
As I mentioned in an earlier comment, my early upgrade is still set for 6/25/2011, and I bought the iPhone 4 on launch day 6/24/2011.
Read through this thread. Look at other sites that picked this up. Look at what you did.
Think next time.