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Lately not even 2gb of data used and getting throttled.
 
One topic that I don't think has been discussed regarding AT&T unlimited vs tiered plans in this thread is that when the time comes to upgrade with the tiered plan you have to be part of AT&T Next or buy the phone outright at full price. As an grandfathered unlimited user, I enjoy paying the subsidized price ($100 - $200) every two years to get a new phone, not have to pay the extra $25 - $35 per month across two years to lease my phone from the Next Program, and I enjoy being able to sell my phone whenever I want since I own it, usually covering the price of new subsidized phone and then some.

Glad to hear AT&T is shifting their bogus throttling policy in the right direction!
Yes but you are on a contract and you don't really own that phone until you are eligible for an upgrade especially if you paid the subsidized price.
 
My guess is they would rather the complainers go. AT&T could not keep up with the incredible demand for data on their network back when the iPhone was first released. They canceled the unlimited data almost immediately and it was ABSOLUTELY the right thing to do.

They let consumers keep the plan and still do to this day. They did not have to let consumers keep the plan. The contract says they can cancel it at any time. We are 7 years later and still they allow folks to keep their plan.

Data in 2007 and Data in 2015 are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT!!! If they un-throttled everyone, people could use 1TB-5TB a month in data today. Image what that does to the rest of the customers who are paying for their data.

In 2007, you would be lucky to use 5GB. Do the math.

I believe AT&T should have canceled the plans and made people move to another plan to to an inferior network like Sprint/T-Mobile or even Verizon.
By canceling, it would have eliminated all the free loaders that want everything for free and not pay like the rest of us.

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Sorry, but AT&T Speeds and T-Mobile speeds are NOT COMPARABLE. You are throttled by your Tier2 network providers ability to provide.
You either work for att or they made you believe nonsense

Most of us w unlimited wouldn't mind if the throttle was to decent speed.
Right now w 4/5lte bars and less than 2gb consumed of data I'm getting throtled to 0.20mb. This measurement is done in the same spot where I got 29mb down speed the day I received my 5S
Sometimes they throttle me at 1-3-5gb. Whatever whenever they want. Nowadays even w lte working I pass 10mb down. Very rare.

My equipment works fine so I know it's them playing w the network
 
Yes but you are on a contract and you don't really own that phone until you are eligible for an upgrade especially if you paid the subsidized price. On the Next program, you can pretty much do whatever you want with your phone from day one. Also, Next program users are not stuck in a lease. They can pay it off after the first month and do whatever they want with the phone. Again, no contract and much more freedom and can upgrade every year.

Nope. In a 2yr plan AND the next plan you don't own the phone until you finish payments for it. In the 2yr the payments are part of the monthly fee and in next you lease it and don't own it until you pay the lease.
In either setup if you buy your phone outright you don't need to extend the contract. You are clearly getting confused on getting stuck w a plan vs subsidized pricing.

The only equipment benefit of the next program vs 2yr is that you can leave att whenever you want more easily. In the 2yr you can also do it but is more cumbersome. You pay the etf fees that get lower w each month and they plus sub price tend to be less or same as the phone cost.

You can upgrade both plans every year as well if you pay the early fees on the 2yr and get extended or in the next you basically rent not own to upgrade every year.
 
Not quite. How is paying for unlimited free loading? You need to recalibrate yourself. With that said - there were so many folks using 100GB data per month at the beginning of the unlimited plan - no idea how one uses that kind of data but it is absurd. These are the users that ruined it for all unfortunately. Anyway, I have a much better plan for me now anyway so the point is moot.

It is very easy, takes lots of photos and videos and use one of the apps that automatically uploads them and set it to use cellular data.
 
Thats a myth, its not "faster" its just less congested, because like you said, they have poor coverage so they have less subscribers.

Most of us don't like the idea of having to worry about coverage in buildings.

Guaranteed if we drove around town and did a dozen speed tests, there will be more areas where AT&T has better results because coverage also means you have more towers and the closer you are to a tower the faster the speeds.

So T-Mobile is only faster in a perfect scenario.

When you guys always post T-Mobile stuff in an AT&T thread there is always that caveat.

I never see the T-Mobile guys mention reception when they spout off the price plans.

its always gonna be an asterisk for most of us on AT&T.

T-Mobile is not a replacement for AT&T or Verizon, its a bargain downgrade. Keep that in mind when posting T-Mobile deals so non-chalantly.

IMO AT&T is awesome again for doing this.

T-Mobile is still faster since it's less congested. There's no myth- usable bandwidth is higher with T-Mobile when T-Mobile has good reception, which in many places (cities), it does. Your "Perfect" scenario happens to be Austin, and I happen to live there. Therefore, T-Mobile is perfect for me. It sounds like T-Mobile sucks in your area- that's fine, but you don't need to be so butt-hurt over that fact. :rolleyes:

at&t also has among the worst customer service in the industry and like I said in the last post, allowed my account to be compromised even with their "security code" arrangement. They didn't even ask for the code to move my SIM card over to the fraudster. Never will do business with them, period.

Edit: Also, upload speeds COMPLETELY are dominated by T-Mobile. at&t never had upload speeds into the 7Mbps range, and I get that regularly on T-Mobile. It's much easier to share photos and videos with T-Mobile.
 
T-Mobile is still faster since it's less congested. There's no myth- usable bandwidth is higher with T-Mobile when T-Mobile has good reception, which in many places (cities), it does. Your "Perfect" scenario happens to be Austin, and I happen to live there. Therefore, T-Mobile is perfect for me. It sounds like T-Mobile sucks in your area- that's fine, but you don't need to be so butt-hurt over that fact. :rolleyes:

at&t also has among the worst customer service in the industry and like I said in the last post, allowed my account to be compromised even with their "security code" arrangement. They didn't even ask for the code to move my SIM card over to the fraudster. Never will do business with them, period.

Edit: Also, upload speeds COMPLETELY are dominated by T-Mobile. at&t never had upload speeds into the 7Mbps range, and I get that regularly on T-Mobile. It's much easier to share photos and videos with T-Mobile.

No I mean there would be more results of 20gb + speed in more locations of the dozen we tested in.

You said TMo is faster than ATT but it's not IRL.

There are less places where it's super fast.

But maybe there is one place where AT&T is like 20Gbps and TMo is 30gbps because nobody is using TMo. No benefit there.

But then drive 10 miles and ATT is like at 15Gpsb and TMo is like 2gbps or just not even on LTE.

But you're taking scenario one and saying it's faster as a blanket statement.

Which is false. I'm not hating just u said dumped ATT like you were way too cool for school :)
 
Nope. In a 2yr plan AND the next plan you don't own the phone until you finish payments for it. In the 2yr the payments are part of the monthly fee and in next you lease it and don't own it until you pay the lease.
In either setup if you buy your phone outright you don't need to extend the contract. You are clearly getting confused on getting stuck w a plan vs subsidized pricing.

The only equipment benefit of the next program vs 2yr is that you can leave att whenever you want more easily. In the 2yr you can also do it but is more cumbersome. You pay the etf fees that get lower w each month and they plus sub price tend to be less or same as the phone cost.

You can upgrade both plans every year as well if you pay the early fees on the 2yr and get extended or in the next you basically rent not own to upgrade every year.

2 year = $150 - $200 upfront subsidized phone upgrade fee + under contract for two years

Next = $0 down but you pay $25-$35 extra per month but no contract

However if you decide to switch/cancel you either pay termination fee (2 year) or pay off phone (Next)

I'd rather lock in for 2 years and pay $150-$200 then have the extra monthly fee and pay a $600-$840 over 2 years.

At least that's how I understood it.
 
2 year = $150 - $200 upfront subsidized phone upgrade fee + under contract for two years

Next = $0 down but you pay $25-$35 extra per month but no contract

However if you decide to switch/cancel you either pay termination fee (2 year) or pay off phone (Next)

I'd rather lock in for 2 years and pay $150-$200 then have the extra monthly fee and pay a $600-$840 over 2 years.

At least that's how I understood it.

yes and no, but remember 2yr contract prices were higher than next prices since the other part of the cost of the cellphone is hidden inside the 2yr plan. Next program w monthly phone payments tend to be around the same as 2yr contract prices, might be higher depending on what you have/get. In the end, as smartphones get more expensive, the few of us able to still have the 2yr contract prices might enjoy a cheaper phone payout if they don't raise the under contract price. If you have more than one phone, or need to have an extra new line, then things could be different and the next program might be a better choice.
 
I had three. I gave them up for 2 reasons, but one was throtteling because my daughter would go over, then all three of us would pay the price for her using the free data. :mad:
Admitedly, i needed more minutes of talk time so swapping to family share has been good for me at about the same cost, if not a tad cheaper.
But if ever there should be a hand slapping for screwing with customers, it should be over the way ATT handles throtteling.
 
T-Mobile is still faster since it's less congested. There's no myth- usable bandwidth is higher with T-Mobile when T-Mobile has good reception, which in many places (cities), it does. Your "Perfect" scenario happens to be Austin, and I happen to live there. Therefore, T-Mobile is perfect for me. It sounds like T-Mobile sucks in your area- that's fine, but you don't need to be so butt-hurt over that fact. :rolleyes:

at&t also has among the worst customer service in the industry and like I said in the last post, allowed my account to be compromised even with their "security code" arrangement. They didn't even ask for the code to move my SIM card over to the fraudster. Never will do business with them, period.

Edit: Also, upload speeds COMPLETELY are dominated by T-Mobile. at&t never had upload speeds into the 7Mbps range, and I get that regularly on T-Mobile. It's much easier to share photos and videos with T-Mobile.

dosent tmobile use ATT towers so wouldn't it be the same?
 
dosent tmobile use ATT towers so wouldn't it be the same?

It doesnt just "use" them.

A roaming relationship with a tower from AT&T only happens in rural areas on certain towers where there is a roaming agreement.

In a regular city there are T-Mobile towers and you use those, not At&T.

It not like it says hey I have low reception with TMO over here, can I use your towers to roam instead?

It doesnt work like that.
 
AT&T Scales Back Throttling of Grandfathered Unlimited Data Plans

One topic that I don't think has been discussed regarding AT&T unlimited vs tiered plans in this thread is that when the time comes to upgrade with the tiered plan you have to be part of AT&T Next or buy the phone outright at full price. As an grandfathered unlimited user, I enjoy paying the subsidized price ($100 - $200) every two years to get a new phone, not have to pay the extra $25 - $35 per month across two years to lease my phone from the Next Program, and I enjoy being able to sell my phone whenever I want since I own it, usually covering the price of new subsidized phone and then some.

Glad to hear AT&T is shifting their bogus throttling policy in the right direction!


I'd gladly pay full price for my next phone if it means I can keep my phone bill at the current grand total of $65 for unlimited data and phone service.
 
yes and no, but remember 2yr contract prices were higher than next prices since the other part of the cost of the cellphone is hidden inside the 2yr plan. Next program w monthly phone payments tend to be around the same as 2yr contract prices, might be higher depending on what you have/get. In the end, as smartphones get more expensive, the few of us able to still have the 2yr contract prices might enjoy a cheaper phone payout if they don't raise the under contract price. If you have more than one phone, or need to have an extra new line, then things could be different and the next program might be a better choice.
I happen to be on a 2yr contract with 2 line family plan. One line has unlimited data and another has 200MB data. I pay $105 (50 voice + 30 data + $10 - 2nd line + $15 - 2nd line data) before discount ($91 after discount) and before taxes each month for both lines. I have yet to find a plan in the mobile data share that costs close to that.


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You still can't FaceTime over LTE?? I'm grandfathered in and have been doing that since my iPhone 5.
Me too, I have been able to FaceTime since my iPhone 5.
It would be really nice if ATT turned on the Hotspot feature for us Unlimited users.
 
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I believe AT&T should have canceled the plans and made people move to another plan to to an inferior network like Sprint/T-Mobile or even Verizon.
By canceling, it would have eliminated all the free loaders that want everything for free and not pay like the rest of us.

When I first signed up for AT&T's unlimited plan it was their most expensive data plan, so for a very long time I was paying more than the rest of you. You can GTFOH with that freeloading nonsense.
 
Glad I never switched to a new plan, though I was certainly tempted after I kept getting throttled. Maybe some day there will be so few of us and the network will be strong enough that they start to appreciate the loyal customers who have stuck around through all of this BS and give us truly unlimited data with FaceTime and personal hotspot. One can dream....
 
When I first signed up for AT&T's unlimited plan it was their most expensive data plan, so for a very long time I was paying more than the rest of you. You can GTFOH with that freeloading nonsense.

I don't get the freeloading comment either, you signed up for unlimited amount of data, your now getting a limited amount of data.
 
Over 100 gig used....still no throttling

Over 100 gig used....still no throttling
 

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