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Totally confused here, from North Central Florida and I got the text message this month telling me I was reaching the 5% and would soon be throttled. I am also one of those who has a JB phone to tether a iPad 2 to 3 times a month. Even with that I only use 2 to 3 gb per month. Got a text, a letter, and a email last week telling me I would be forced into the 5gb with tethering plan. Called and raised hell but got nowhere. Well, my billing cycle ended a few days ago and according to the ATT app I am still on the $30 unlimited plan even after speaking with 3 ATT employees who said I would be on the 5gb plan this billing cycle. Took a screen shot this morning for evidence but plan on using the hell out of my unlimited data this month
 
As far as the amount vs. speed argument I would look at false advertising. If you watch commercials it is all about the speed of cell networks. How fast 3G is, how fast 4G is, etc. So if you were sold unlimited 3G that should be at the speeds they advertise. Cell providers (ALL of them) are currently about how fast they are in competing for your business. Unless your contract changed to state they could throttle you, you should be entitled to full access to your data amount at the current speed they offer everyone else.

Of course all this still bound to some extent by the ToS but you might be able to argue the false advertising claim.
 
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oh I do hit the nail on the head on this one. I so called it 2 weeks ago in another thread. lawsuit please someone

If everyone leaves AT&T they'll figure it out that they can't piss on their customers. Right now they know they're getting away with it
 
My conversation with AT&T rep

I had a conversation with AT&T rep, and this was my post about it

http://phillihp.com/2012/01/22/att-punishes-subscribers-by-throttling-modest-data-usages/

I contacted AT&T customer support about the txt and e-mails I received, and I was told that if I switched to a tiered data plan then I would not be throttled. I explained that should I take AT&T’s advice and switch to the 5GB + tethering plan, then I would be consuming the same about of data that I’ve consumed since the start of my contract, which would be less than 5GB of data a month. I continued, why would switching to a tiered plan protect me from having my data usage throttled when my usage would be no different? AT&T rep couldn’t answer the question and simply repeated that AT&T does not throttle tiered plans. I responded and said, well, AT&T does not throttle tiered plans YET just as AT&T did not throttle unlimited plans when I signed my contract 2 years ago and now throttles them today. I continued, it’s probably just a matter of time until AT&T throttles tiered plans, too, so customers are bullied into more expensive plans only to be throttled by those data plans as well later. AT&T rep had no comment on the matter, but understood my frustration and noted that this was a new program they launched in November 2011. AT&T mentioned the reason why I fall into this heavy data usage category is because it’s based on my region. I said, I live in the DC metropolitan area where everyone carries smartphones with data plans, so why is my regional consumption the majority when I should actually be the minority? I closed the conversation with, unless you can guarantee in writing a tiered data won’t be throttled then AT&T’s actions will cause you to lose a customer that plans to switch to Sprint once iPhone 5 arrives. There I can join a network that offers unlimited plans without throttling honest contract binding customers.
 
I think it's GREAT!
Get those HOGS OFF the network... go play games at home or PAY FOR IT! Your slowing down the network! And... GET A LIFE!

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I figured it out! Miles is actually Randall Stephenson, CEO of AT&T!

The only man alive who thinks that when you're dissatisfied with your service from a company that you should vote with your wallet by giving them $350!

Look Miles. I realize you are probably some corporate shill in a cubicle who is brainwashed by your environment to think it's okay for corporations to deceive their customers as long as there's some well placed and vague loop holes in the contract. But there are some very simple concepts that should be easy to grasp even for you.

1. I was sold a two year contract for unlimited 3G data on the nation's fastest 3G network.

2. I've had the same plan that DIDN'T involve throttling since 2008.

3. When the salesman convinced me in November of 2011 to extend my contract for two more years, he told me that it would be the same unlimited plan that I've been enjoying since 2008.

4. He lied. AT&T absolutely under no uncertain terms, changed my service to a throttled data plan where 3G stopped at 2gb and a barely working edge experience took it's place.

They changed the terms without my knowledge after the fact and will not let me out of my contract without paying them an extortion fee. It's wrong and I'm sure a judge will decide that they are breaking the law by advertising and selling one thing and delivering another.

If they had not offered me an unlimited plan and informed me that I needed to switch to a tiered plan I almost certainly would have switched to Sprint while I had the chance. But they lied and I fell for it.

Good luck with the lawsuit Mr. Stephenson.
Just QUIT downloading torrents on your iphone... sheesh.
 
The "by region" thing is bull-crap it's actually opposite. If you are in an area where a lot of people use data (and thus use higher amounts of data) then the "average" data would be higher. However, it's in these areas that people are throttled. The locations where people are getting ridiculous amounts of data (10-15GB) and not being throttled are the areas where no one is using data and thus the "average" of data use would be a lot lower. Way to go AT&T, being a backwards spin doctor and pissing off your customers at the same time.

Edit: I was throttled last month when I hit 1.9GB with 2 days left in my cycle... only because I live in Los Angeles County.
 
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I haven't went thru this entire thread yet because I'm reading it on my iPhone...but just to let everyone know I get the top 5% txt message from AT&T at 1.5gb. I am in the NYC area. I have been throttled before also without going over 2gb. I started my unlimited data plan on the first day the 3G iPhone came out. I am on the 4S now and I don't even use Siri. Most of my data usage is streaming music to and from work in my car (about 2 hours a day using tunein radio) and traffic navigation (waze). 95% of the other time at home or work I am on wifi networks.
 
I ACTUALLY WROTE THIS EMAIL TO TIM COOK. LOL.

Mr. Cook,

I am writing as a concerned consumer who is being held hostage by the draconian policies that your partners at AT&T are enforcing.

As you may or not be aware, AT&T has begun to throttle data for the top 5% of their users slowing speeds down to less than dial-up speeds which makes the phone useless for what I use it for which is, iTunes Match, Pandora, iHeart Radio, ESPN Radio, and Netflix which are all data intensive apps. I have been grandfathered into the Unlimited Data and Text plan since I got my iPhone 3G in 2007.

I feel that it is unfair that AT&T be allowed to practice this since they have they have tiered data plans ranging from 250mb to 5gb with an option to pay an extra $10 per gigabyte you go over. I asked them if I would be throttled at the same rate of data consumption if I had the 5gb plan. They said no. This made me furious.

Why would you not practice that policy on someone who doesn't have an unlimited plan? I again asked if their highest data plan is for 5gb, then why don't they start throttling me at 5gb and not at 2gb which they have done the last 2 billing cycles. (I reached 2gb of usage 9 days into my billing cycle which means for 21 days, my phone was useless.) AT&T told me to use wi-fi connections or to download music into my phone rather than use iTunes Match to which I responded by telling them that they have no right to tell me how to use my phone. And if one of their suggestions is to use wi-fi more that means that they don't want me to use their own network!

I explained how illogical data throttling is considering how much data any device nowadays, and not just the iPhone, can consume.

But I cannot speak on behalf of other smartphone owners so I am using my iPhone 4S as an example. I told AT&T that this phone has an 8mp camera. If I use it and upload that picture to Facebook or Twitter, that is easily almost 2mb of data at full resolution. I also asked them if they knew what iTunes Match was. They had no answer so I enlightened them. I told them that each song was upconverted to 256kbps quality and that is a pretty huge file when the song downloads into your phone. Again, their answer was to tell me to just download songs into my phone and not use iTunes Match which is a service I paid for! I bought the 16gb 4S for the sole purpose of never worrying about putting all my songs in it...

AT&T touts the amazing capabilities of their devices, the iPhone more than most, and to do more with them. They tell you that you should live your life and not wait for it to catch up. (This is all in their commercials.) But when data throttling interferes with the way you can use your device, you can no longer live life the way they preach it. Photos have to be uploaded at a Starbucks or at home. Watching movies on Netflix while you're on the exercise bike at the gym is impossible. (I also asked them rhetorically if I would watch Netflix on my phone while I'm at home.) I can't listen to my music in my car on the way to work because iTunes Match cannot download my songs.

I ask for your help to speak, not just to AT&T, but to Verizon as well and let them know that data throttling destroys the experience that Apple has promised to each of their loyal and new customers.

I hope you get the chance to read this and address it with AT&T and Verizon as I feel that the practice is unfair and should be illegal since it infringes on my using services I have paid for.

Have a great weekend and I continue to look forward to the amazing things that your company will present in the coming months.

Thanks for listening,
 
So if they are constantly throttling the top 5% .......

How long until the top is 20mb a month

Anyone ...Anyone ...?

We have got to have some math majors in this forum.

(And hopefully some smart lawyers who want to make some easy cash ...CLASS ACTION style )

Making the following assumptions, here is how it plays out over 5 years.

1) Throttling starts at 2.1GB in your region.
2) All those who are thottled switch to tiered, switch carriers, or reduce their usage.
3) AT&T continues to throttle the top 5% each month.

Month 1 - those exceeding 2.1 GB are throttled
Month 2 - 1.995 GB
Month 6 - 1.624 GB
Month 12 - 1.194 GB
Month 18 - 878 MB
Month 24 - 645 MB
Month 30 - 474 MB
Month 36 - 349 MB
Month 42 - 256 MB
Month 48 - 188 MB
Month 54 - 139 MB
Month 60 - 102 MB
 
I ACTUALLY WROTE THIS EMAIL TO TIM COOK. LOL.

Mr. Cook,

I am writing as a concerned consumer who is being held hostage by the draconian policies that your partners at AT&T are enforcing.

As you may or not be aware, AT&T has begun to throttle data for the top 5% of their users slowing speeds down to less than dial-up speeds which makes the phone useless for what I use it for which is, iTunes Match, Pandora, iHeart Radio, ESPN Radio, and Netflix which are all data intensive apps. I have been grandfathered into the Unlimited Data and Text plan since I got my iPhone 3G in 2007.

I feel that it is unfair that AT&T be allowed to practice this since they have they have tiered data plans ranging from 250mb to 5gb with an option to pay an extra $10 per gigabyte you go over. I asked them if I would be throttled at the same rate of data consumption if I had the 5gb plan. They said no. This made me furious.

Why would you not practice that policy on someone who doesn't have an unlimited plan? I again asked if their highest data plan is for 5gb, then why don't they start throttling me at 5gb and not at 2gb which they have done the last 2 billing cycles. (I reached 2gb of usage 9 days into my billing cycle which means for 21 days, my phone was useless.) AT&T told me to use wi-fi connections or to download music into my phone rather than use iTunes Match to which I responded by telling them that they have no right to tell me how to use my phone. And if one of their suggestions is to use wi-fi more that means that they don't want me to use their own network!

I explained how illogical data throttling is considering how much data any device nowadays, and not just the iPhone, can consume.

But I cannot speak on behalf of other smartphone owners so I am using my iPhone 4S as an example. I told AT&T that this phone has an 8mp camera. If I use it and upload that picture to Facebook or Twitter, that is easily almost 2mb of data at full resolution. I also asked them if they knew what iTunes Match was. They had no answer so I enlightened them. I told them that each song was upconverted to 256kbps quality and that is a pretty huge file when the song downloads into your phone. Again, their answer was to tell me to just download songs into my phone and not use iTunes Match which is a service I paid for! I bought the 16gb 4S for the sole purpose of never worrying about putting all my songs in it...

AT&T touts the amazing capabilities of their devices, the iPhone more than most, and to do more with them. They tell you that you should live your life and not wait for it to catch up. (This is all in their commercials.) But when data throttling interferes with the way you can use your device, you can no longer live life the way they preach it. Photos have to be uploaded at a Starbucks or at home. Watching movies on Netflix while you're on the exercise bike at the gym is impossible. (I also asked them rhetorically if I would watch Netflix on my phone while I'm at home.) I can't listen to my music in my car on the way to work because iTunes Match cannot download my songs.

I ask for your help to speak, not just to AT&T, but to Verizon as well and let them know that data throttling destroys the experience that Apple has promised to each of their loyal and new customers.

I hope you get the chance to read this and address it with AT&T and Verizon as I feel that the practice is unfair and should be illegal since it infringes on my using services I have paid for.

Have a great weekend and I continue to look forward to the amazing things that your company will present in the coming months.

Thanks for listening,

Feel Better?
 
This thread got me worried until I checked my data usage and found out I never went above 500mb. This is with wifi at home and 3G all day at work (as my workplace refuses to allow me to connect to unrestricted wifi there). I can't really stream movies or anything like that while at work and I do use internet on my phone throughout the day, so 2GB is a lot compared to what the average population uses. This is with iPhone 4S too.
 
Forget ATT

Well I've been an att customer since the first iPhone. I have been grandfathered into the unlimited data plan. I am waiting for my contract to finish up then I'm taking my iPhone over to straight talk and cut my bill in half. I will just sell my iPhone every year and save a couple hundred on top of it and just buy my iPhones straight out. Why pay $30 a month for att bs unlimited thats really 2gigs? Ill just use straight talk unlimited everything and pay $50 a month for everything and just not get ridiculous with it. Im paying way to much for my service and am fed up with att.
 
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I live in DC metro, not jailbroken and had the message at 2.1gb
 
What the heck are they going to do when they have LTE on the network. It's going to be totally BS if they do the same with LTE.

AT&T sucks...Verizon simply doesn't have the speed (YET, because they are getting LTE), and Sprint's just....the worst (at least, in my area).
 
Same here. I live in DC and received the notice at 2gb data usage. Usage comes mostly from Spotify and Stitcher Radio. BS.
Unfortunately there is no alternative - and they know this.
 
Can't wait for them to get sued

I started getting these messages in December. It seems to me that they are changing the terms of service and if anything we should be let out of our contracts early. I've got another 6 or 7 months left on my contract.

Here's the most recent "warning" I got on Feb 2. I'm at 1.5gb right now, and I'm in the SF bay area:

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There is no loyalty with ATT. It seems as though ATT is money hungry and bandwidth limited for now (even though they obtained that new spectrum approval from the FDC when they aborted the TMobile deal.)
What doesn't make sense is that over the years more data hungry applications have surfaced and 2 gb can be a challenge to keep under for some. 3gb would be more reasonable and appropriate being the tiered plan I believe offers 3GB for the same price that the unlimted customer pays.
 
Every month the level will lower

Every month the level will lower. I has to doesn't it?

If every month you throttle the top 5% then every month you lower the upper limit. The upper limit will go down every month that is throttled.

Has anyone thought about that effect of throttling?
 
General customs in usage in this industry is that unlimited means unlimited. You're making a distinction without a difference.

Only in the US wireless service does unlimited mean limited.

Anyone who doesn't think this is a limit should be forced to go back to unlimited 56k modem speed and see if they're ok with accessing the Internet at that speed 2 weeks out of every month.
 
Wow I feel sorry for AT&T subscribers. I have Verizon and I am sure it is only a matter oh time before the do the same. This needs to end here. The big 3 are robbing their customers blind. Unless a class sction makes an example of AT&T this will never end.
 
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Only in the US wireless service does unlimited mean limited.

Anyone who doesn't think this is a limit should be forced to go back to unlimited 56k modem speed and see if they're ok with accessing the Internet at that speed 2 weeks out of every month.

Or alternatively stop using your iphone to stream music and videos and just download it on a computer first and then transfer it on your phone's hard-drive. You know, like how normal people do it.
I literally have zero sympathy for all these people bitching and whining about being throttled.
There are so many ways around it!!
 
Or alternatively stop using your iphone to stream music and videos and just download it on a computer first and then transfer it on your phone's hard-drive. You know, like how normal people do it.
I literally have zero sympathy for all these people bitching and whining about being throttled.
There are so many ways around it!!

I don't understand people like you. Do you work for ATT? Are you a communist? WTF is your problem? We were sold a certain bill of goods by ATT and now they are in absolute violation of the spirit of the agreement. By the very definition of unlimited, I should be able to download whatever the freak I want, when I want. I shouldn't have to find a way around it- that's the point.
 
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