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ATT needs to get their act together. I wish the iphone would just go provider neutral. Imagine how many more units than 40,000,000 they would have sold. Though that might kill their ipod touch sales if everyone had iphones instead.
 
ATT needs to get their act together. I wish the iphone would just go provider neutral. Imagine how many more units than 40,000,000 they would have sold. Though that might kill their ipod touch sales if everyone had iphones instead.

You realize that unlocked iPhones are quite expensive, right? They cost almost as much as a laptop.
 
I cannot f*cking wait until Apple loses AT&T. What's happening here is absolutely abominable.

I'll spare you all the list of details. Anyone paying attention (and worse, paying for their sh*itty service) and with half a brain, knows they're getting screwed.

I want out NOW!

I/we will simply not be getting the services that our phone offers, because of their deliberate BS. That alone, qualifies me to be able to be let go of my contract, as far as I'm concerned. They aren't keeping up their end of the deal, and haven't time and again.

We can trace this back to the poor 3G service (since improved) they offered on rollout, that I had to pay upon upgrading to the newest iPhone. I agreed to pay extra for this service that was constantly failing, but not without making many calls to let them know they were simply NOT HOLDING UP THEIR END OF THE DEAL. And I live in Los Angeles! (not exactly the sticks) I have no problem agreeing to pay for a service that I can use.

The above, non tiered data plans, and now today's news... UnF*CKINGbelievable!
 
In three words: WTF? Provide for tethering, with special plans?

I think I'll just keep using my N95, on AT&T, tethered to my whitebook, without telling them.
 
I was planning on getting the rumored iPhone until today. It's obvious there's tension between Apple and AT&T and I don't want to lock myself into another 2 years with a company that's clearly dragging their feet. I just keep thinking about what happened to Motorola/IBM when Apple felt they were a burden on innovation.
 
I was planning on getting the rumored iPhone until today. It's obvious there's tension between Apple and AT&T and I don't want to lock myself into another 2 years with a company that's clearly dragging their feet. I just keep thinking about what happened to Motorola/IBM when Apple felt they were a burden on innovation.

Well it isn't going to happen until the 4G rollout which is 2 or so years away.
 
Ok lately I been reading around news blog of tensions between Apple and ATT basically Apple is on their schedule but ATT is not keeping up.
 
For all you complaining, I've found the solution! If we all move somewhere where unlimited data and tethering are standard we'll save a bunch of money and lose the hassle. I've heard Finland is nice, and I've always wanted to visit Sweden.
 
Never had any issues with Verizon for me. I live in the boondocks and we still have amazing service. The iPhone on verizon would be a deal killer for AT&T, they'd lose a ton of customers.

T-Mobile is the worst carrier in the USA, bar none. Bad reception everywhere except major cities, plans without mobile to mobile, plans without free nights, but they try to justify it by the My Fav 5. Not good enough.
 
For all you complaining, I've found the solution! If we all move somewhere where unlimited data and tethering are standard we'll save a bunch of money and lose the hassle. I've heard Finland is nice, and I've always wanted to visit Sweden.
Hahaha..I'm up to it. :D
 
AT&T is retarded... $40 bucks... thanks for that... :rolleyes:

And their current air card rate is $60 per month. I agree it's high but it's not that bad when you look at what is offered by them and everyone else. I wish it was cheaper.... without jailbreaking.
 
I can not believe that AT&T is wanting to charge $70. Forget it. iPhone users already pay enough.

Dumb AT&T being greedy. :mad:
 
At&t

They will nickle and dime you every time... yes the iphone is amazing but this a serious case of when good phones hit bad companies.. maybe the worst case in history... AT&T sucks... In Chicago most of my friends don't even get service in their homes,as well as half the other places they travel.. Outrageous phone bills for a nice phone you can hold and look at but cant promise reliable service... it's a shame, i feel sorry for all of those suckered into terrible contracts.
 
Never had any issues with Verizon for me. I live in the boondocks and we still have amazing service. The iPhone on verizon would be a deal killer for AT&T, they'd lose a ton of customers.

T-Mobile is the worst carrier in the USA, bar none. Bad reception everywhere except major cities, plans without mobile to mobile, plans without free nights, but they try to justify it by the My Fav 5. Not good enough.

T-Mobile was awesome when I had them. They still have the best rates on messaging and voice. Their data isn't good though. They have worked for me from Florida to New York, Hawaii, Atlanta, Chicago and nearly anywhere else I went. I have been to the smallest little towns where it didn't work but I know that no phone works everywhere. Even Verizon phones don't work in areas I've been. But I live in a real city and had great service on T-Mobile.

Sprint on the other hand is terrible even in big cities. I had all three carriers at one time too because of an old job I had that set up cell phone stores and reps. I'll never own a Verizon phone because they just piss me off by existing. Conceited ass little *****.
 
AT&T was the laughing stock at the conference today. They can't upgrade their network fast enough.
 
Never had any issues with Verizon for me. I live in the boondocks and we still have amazing service. The iPhone on verizon would be a deal killer for AT&T, they'd lose a ton of customers.

T-Mobile is the worst carrier in the USA, bar none. Bad reception everywhere except major cities, plans without mobile to mobile, plans without free nights, but they try to justify it by the My Fav 5. Not good enough.

Just went to go see the plans.

600min
Un N&W
Un M2M
5 fav Un calling
$49.99

1000 messages $10
Un messages for $15

Looks cheaper than Verizon or AT&T. All I'm pointing out is that this is more along the lines of what our bill's should look like but honestly it should be unlimited calling for $60/mo. Some of my friends are on unlimited calling with T-Mobile for $50/mo.
 
I could buy that for tethering but for MMS? MMS is old tech that quite a few people use (I don't and don't plan to so I don't really care personally...but this whole thing just reeks of AT&T sitting on their rear).

As far as the iPhone 3G I see most if not all US iPhone 3G owners waiting until the 2010 model of the iPhone. Apple has released an iPhone once a year for three years in a row. I'd rather not upgrade to the 3G in March only to see the iPhone upgraded in 3 months (I bought on launch day but I guess since I have a company discount on my plan as well as no text messaging I get to wait 3 months more than everyone else, screw you AT&T). Maybe the iPhone will be on Verizon (although honestly, Verizon would pull the same stunt as AT&T if they were in this position).


I would say blame apple for MMS. It was APPLE fault for MMS not being in at the beginning. Steve Jobs call MMS old and out dated techology and well lets face it he was wrong big time. People wanted MMS and now Steve Jobs is eating crow.

I willing to bet apple is a huge part of the problem with MMS. we have reports here on these boards of people who jail broke their phones to get MMS and then them getting locked down. These leads me to believe it is something apple pushed on ATT to lock them down. With the update I willing to be APPLE did something to screw with MMS and they are having ATT jump threw hoops to make it worth their system.

This means ATT is going to play it VERY safe and go slowly making sure the new protocals do not crash their system.

End of the day MMS is apple fault. It was something that should of been on the iPhone day 1.
 
AT&T also should have expected the high demand and been prepared for it years ago. It is Apple's fault for sleeping with the devil and AT&T's fault for not being prepared.

The Palm Pre will not be the iPhone killer, AT&T will be.
 
no way i'm paying $70 a month! on top of my voice plan?!

Exactly. As much as I would prefer the ease of tethering using USB or Bluetooth, it's moments like this that I'm glad I grabbed NetShare when I did.

Still isn't good news though.
 
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ATT had a low of $18 a share in 10-08 and a market cap of $1.2B right this second. So why doesn't Apple buy ATT?
Verizon had a low of $25 a share in 10-08 and a market cap of $83B right this second. So why doesn't Apple buy ATT not VZ?

According to Yahoo ATT's market cap is about 144B.
 
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