In did my friend...I already received a letter from ATT that in February my Mobil bill will go up $ 7 more per month !?"Pricing simplification" just means "Pricing increase"
Yeah....in general you're correct. Catch is for say a family of four to all have an Iphone as an example, that can get expensive on the monthly lease option, and god forbid you want more than 16gb. Single line? Sure, no brainer, lease it.
IMO its easier to deal with subsidies on multiple line accounts (3+) but to each their own on that. I know I'm pretty much in the minority on that way of thinking now.
*Edit - Easier to deal with due to having some flexibility.
I'm the only one in the family with a smartphone, and I'm the only one that texts. NEXT is a waste of money for my mother, father, and sister. They'd be paying for services they don't even use. NEXT is a waste of money for me too, considering I'm paying $30/month for 3GB and $5/month for 200 texts. I don't NEED what NEXT offers, that is the point. AT&T is forcing my hand, and they will lose business, at least my business as a result.
The people this change hurts the most are people who don't use smartphones. I don't even see plans for basic phones on AT&Ts website. We will probably need to look elsewhere for my families needs.
You won't pay the upgrade fee. But you also won't get the subsidy. The subsidy was a much larger savings than $40.IF I decide to stick with AT&T that means I will no longer pay "upgrade" fees. I can front the money to buy the phone outright directly from Apple and then just put my SIM card in my new phone. That means I will at least save $40+ on every new phone!
Someone please correct me if I am wrong?
You're better off buying a used unlocked iPhone and getting service through a low-cost MVNO. I pay $27/mo including taxes for my iPhone plan through Consumer Cellular, and my iPhone is a gently used iPhone 5S which I paid half the price than getting a brand new one.
I'm not sure why this is viewed as a bad thing. Literally for like 90% of people this Id a cheaper option anyway. I mean on Verizon you pay the taxes on the devices up front, then the full retail cost, divided by 24 monthly payments BUT for each month you stay with them you get a $20 credit. ($25 or $15 on the older plans). So...
iPhone 6S 16GB - Full Retail $649.99
2 yr contract - $199.99 + approx $21 in taxes + $40 upgrade fee = $261
Device Payment/Next - $45.49 for taxes up front + 7.08 for 24 months = $215.41
I would agree with your installment statement for those who aren't buying new phones yearly. For me, it makes much more sense to buy on an installment because the provider is effectively "buying back" the phone when I am ready for a new one every year. previously I sold my phones yearly because the return was much better. Since the market has been flooded, this retun has dropped. I can still get about $50 more , when all is said and done, selling privately, but this includes the hassle of meeting someone or packing and shipping the phone. To me, it's worth having the carrier take my phone back, me "losing" $50 a year, and continuing to have the newest device (as I have always done previously).If you can't pay for something up front then do without - it's that simple. That is the way I was brought up and it's served me well during my lifetime.
The phones are not subsidised anyway - there's no such thing as a free lunch. Companies were/are getting it back through the cost of the contract. Certainly in the UK it is cheaper to buy a phone up front and get a SIM only deal.
Buying on instalments is a mugs game.
It seems you are confusing Next and Mobile Share Value. Next is just a zero-interest installment plan if you want to buy a new phone. If you already have a phone or buy one elsewhere, nobody forces you to use Next.I'm the only one in the family with a smartphone, and I'm the only one that texts. NEXT is a waste of money for my mother, father, and sister.
Like what?They'd be paying for services they don't even use.
If I understood your first post right, you are paying a share of a family plan. It may be worthwhile to look at the potential cost of an equivalent mobile share plan for the entire family, and then see how to share the cost to everyone's advantage. You didn't mention what the current plan costs in total, but a mobile share plan with 2GB and 1 smartphone for you, and 3 basic phones for your other family members would be:NEXT is a waste of money for me too, considering I'm paying $30/month for 3GB and $5/month for 200 texts.
That's right. I forgot about that.
So when they raise our unlimited data plans in February by $5 we can leave without an ETF right? I'm excited. I get to leave a year earlier![]()
They do charge this fee. I was a customer for about six years and I was always able to get that fee credited by talking to an online rep. Literally all I ever did was ask. This may have changed and may vary for folks though. ATT was always very willing to give me "random" credits. No idea if that had to do with the FAN on our account, the fact that we were long time customers always paying on time or what.Where did you get the 7.08 from? Wouldn't it be 27.08? Also, I believe they now charge an upgrade fee even for Next customers.
I've been selling iPhones since the iPhone 3G and the going rate after the next model has always been about 200, maybe 250 for the base model in mint condition. 300 is unrealistic unless it's a higher spec unit. And 300 on eBay would be like 220-250 on CL because of fees and shipping.You have an ancient plan that all the carriers want people off of. And it's basically not available from anyone. T-Mobile does offer unlimited. But there are limits for it and their service, while good is not as deep as AT&T or Verizon. But if that works for you have at it.
Or you could suck it up and do an EDGE plan, pay off the phones and still sell them at a tidy profit. Not to hard to get $300 for a 2 year old iPhone from Swappa or Eaby.
What subsidy are you referring to? Aren't you charged the full price for the phones on the Next plans? You also pay a $15 upgrade fee on the Next plans now.You won't pay the upgrade fee. But you also won't get the subsidy. The subsidy was a much larger savings than $40.
They do charge this fee. I was a customer for about six years and I was always able to get that fee credited by talking to an online rep. Literally all I ever did was ask. This may have changed and may vary for folks though. ATT was always very willing to give me "random" credits. No idea if that had to do with the FAN on our account, the fact that we were long time customers always paying on time or what.
I did the research on Binge On and it's easy to disable it. So no mandatory.How is that? They masked a significant unlimited plan increase (much more than AT&T's recent $5 hike) with the additional BingeOn service. That is sleazy.
Over the last 2 or so years (since the start of UnCarrier), they have increased the cost of their unlimited plan repeatedly, yet no one has said a damn thing.
but AT&T (and Verizon) do it ONCE and everyone freaks out? Are you kidding me?
Sorry. This being an unlimited thread I assumed we were discussing contract signings for unlimited data. There is no option to go on next with unlimited (well, there is, but nobody takes it because its way more expensive). Apologies for the misunderstanding.What subsidy are you referring to? Aren't you charged the full price for the phones on the Next plans? You also pay a $15 upgrade fee on the Next plans now.
Does that mean cook will have to start giving the real price of the pone now instead of "It cost's 200.00".
Huh? I'm on the unlimited plan and I'm NOT "way overpaying". How do you people come up with this stuff?
There is no point in staying with AT&T. T-Mobile offers unlimited data (well ~20GB) for 95 a month. I don't think AT&T will be cheaper with their new price hikes and lack of subsidy.IF I decide to stick with AT&T that means I will no longer pay "upgrade" fees. I can front the money to buy the phone outright directly from Apple and then just put my SIM card in my new phone. That means I will at least save $40+ on every new phone!
Someone please correct me if I am wrong?
Right when they started their next plan there was also the option for what was effectively a free phone (all contracted phones you could get out of for starting a next plan). We did that, and then when the next iPhone launched just turned in our 2 or so month old 5S.Yep, there is a narrow window of golden opportunity right now for someone on the unlimited plan, dissatisfied with AT&T and looking to switch, with a phone upgrade available.
Huh? I'm on the unlimited plan and I'm NOT "way overpaying". How do you people come up with this stuff?
Over Paying???????
I Have Unlimited Data for $30.00 soon to be $35.00 & I pay $5.00 for 200 sms messages also I have 900 roll over minutes for $59.99 in which I have 9,000 rolled over. I NEVER go over on Messages & my calls are no way near a problem going over... How are you FEELING SORRY for ME? How Do YOU Think I AM OVER PAYING???? My Bill is $94.99 plus all taxes & I Get AN IPHONE WITH THAT PRICE which comes out to $105.40 every month... OVERPAYING??? FOR UNLIMITED 4G LTE????
I DO NOT THINK SO..!!! All I have to do for the last 6 Years Is I pay $199.00 every "S" Model fora Brand New 4S, 5S, 6S Iphone to Boot with that payment added in, so then I sell the thing at the end of the 2 years seeing I then OWN IT....
So Now Next time There will not be subsidized , Oh well , I just buy the iPhone Outright and I still get UNLIMITED DATA..!!!
WORKS FOR ME....!!!!
There is no point in staying with AT&T. T-Mobile offers unlimited data (well ~20GB) for 95 a month. I don't think AT&T will be cheaper with their new price hikes and lack of subsidy.