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Some more info to those on AT&T on unlimited data plan. I was looking over the email I got from AT&T a few days ago telling me about my unlimited data plan increase. Upcoming changes to your unlimited data plan:

If you choose to cancel your unlimited data plan and you're under a two-year service contract, we'll waive your early termination fee.4 Just cancel your unlimited data plan line(s) within 60 days after the price increase first appears on your bill. Cancellations made after that time will be subject to the usual early termination fee.

Yep, there is a narrow window of golden opportunity right now for someone on the unlimited plan, dissatisfied with AT&T and looking to switch, with a phone upgrade available.
 
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Some more info to those on AT&T on unlimited data plan. I was looking over the email I got from AT&T a few days ago telling me about my unlimited data plan increase. Upcoming changes to your unlimited data plan:

If you choose to cancel your unlimited data plan and you're under a two-year service contract, we'll waive your early termination fee.4 Just cancel your unlimited data plan line(s) within 60 days after the price increase first appears on your bill. Cancellations made after that time will be subject to the usual early termination fee.

I was wondering about that, if I cancel, I can walk away with my iPhone free & clear?
(I renewed my plan and got a 6s three months ago).
My unlimited iPhone is the main line on the plan, does that get the other two non-unlimited 6s phones off the hook too?

Gary
 
Yout hatred clouds your logic.

ETFs used to be 350 and stayed that way for the duration (until they were forced to change). And if you want to leave now, you pay off WHAT YOU OWE on the phone not some artbitrary set fee.

That's incorrect. The ETF decreased every month of completed service. I think it is $325 - $10/month.

It's been like this for years... even before T-Mobile became relevant again.

Let's say I got a 16gb iPhone 6S and canceled before a month.

On AT&T, that would've been $199 up front + month service cost (whatever plan you picked out) + $325 ETF + taxes, etc.

On T-Mobile, that would've been 0 upfront + month service cost (whatever plan you picked out) + $649 EIP payoff.

No matter how you slice it, the T-Mobile "way" would cost more.

Nothing is clouding my judgment. I'm willing to see through the marketing BS, unlike some people...
 
I was wondering about that, if I cancel, I can walk away with my iPhone free & clear?
(I renewed my plan and got a 6s three months ago).
My unlimited iPhone is the main line on the plan, does that get the other two non-unlimited 6s phones off the hook too?

Gary

My understanding is yes... (I asked the same question and someone who seemed to know what they were talking about answered).

They've bit the bullet on those subsidized phones on day 1, and just make up their money over the course of the 2 year contract. So unless you've made some agreement that you pay for the phone in monthly installments, you should own it free and clear.

I'll be asking them to unlock mine the day I get the February bill.
 
I don't think so bud.
T Mobile is upfront and the most honest carrier out there. All these changes and better prices, new plans and new competition is all because of them.
How is that? They masked a significant unlimited plan increase (much more than AT&T's recent $5 hike) with the additional BingeOn service. That is sleazy.

Over the last 2 or so years (since the start of UnCarrier), they have increased the cost of their unlimited plan repeatedly, yet no one has said a damn thing.

but AT&T (and Verizon) do it ONCE and everyone freaks out? Are you kidding me?
 
For myself this is bad news. I'm currently paying $30/3gb data/$5 for 200 texts (all friends have ipones), $9.99 for the added line on my mothers family plan. Of the four of us I'm the only one with a smartphone, so a mobile share plan is not necessary. I pay my mother $50 each month which covers my part of the bill.

I just priced out for kicks a 5gb NEXT mobile share plane @ $50/month, $25 for NEXT, and $40 for "mobile share value access charge (what the hell is that?)". $100 a month BEFORE taxes.
Your access fee will be $25 if you buy a phone on Next and have a 5GB plan, not $40. Also, if you finance the phone with Next, there is no down payment, whereas upgrading a phone on contract costs several hundred dollars upfront (depending on the model). You also get the hotspot feature, are free to leave whenever you want without penalty, and can keep your existing phone as long as you want without continuing to pay for the baked-in subsidy. It may also be worthwhile to look at the total cost of the plan for your entire family.
 
I was wondering about that, if I cancel, I can walk away with my iPhone free & clear?
(I renewed my plan and got a 6s three months ago).
My unlimited iPhone is the main line on the plan, does that get the other two non-unlimited 6s phones off the hook too?

Gary
I wondered the same thing... and I was told no. It's only the line with unlimited. They will not let the other non-unlimited plan lines out of contract for free.
 
Well the next Apple iPhone rollout will be interesting -- you know where they show the price of all the phones at their subsidized costs. Now they'll have to say it "only" costs $649, $749 or $849 for the regular model and $749, $849, or $949 for the plus model.

Hopefully as people see the true costs of phones, some price competition will kick in.
 
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Based on their website, $25 gets you 250 minutes, 3000 texts, and 500mb of data.

An unlimited talk/text + 4gb of data plan is $90.

Well, it's not really fair to compare your $25 plan to his $90 plan when he has (almost) double the minutes (with rollover) and with the unlimited messaging I bet he has unlimited (M2M) mobile to mobile too, plus unlimited data. His (old) plan sounds better than the $90 plan with consumer cellular.

The data is the killer for many plans. I know they call the iPhone a phone but for me it's a mini-tablet that I use for a million things (phone calls and texting is secondary).

Gary
 
There were never any "subsidies", everyone were paying for their phone. It was merely a payment plan for the phone linked to your service plan. I always hated the term subsidy, because it made no sense at all considering what it was.

With Apple doing the lending now, the phone companies are now out of that business,

yeah apple's is a little more a month than the old AT&T plans were including subsidy BUT you get a new phone every year. My wife doesn't get this and won't say yes...she will once she sees that AT&T won't do the 2 year contract anymore
 
Here's what really irritates me with AT&T Next: upgrading your device in a partner retail store. Outside of Apple Stores and the AT&T store itself, good luck finding a store that offers phones for customers who want to upgrade with an existing Next plan. I had this issue when trying to upgrade from the 6 to the 6s a couple months ago. My local Target, Sams Club, Walmart all had the 6s in stock but none of them allow existing Next customers to purchase a phone. AT&T needs to force their partners to update their systems to support these upgrades.
 
Well the next Apple iPhone rollout will be interesting -- you know where they show the price of all the phones at their subsidized costs. Now they'll have to say it "only" costs $649, $749 or $849 for the regular model and $749, $849, or $949 for the plus model.

I think they'll start advertising it as a monthly (or yearly price) or they'll start up Apple Cellular and make it one big package...

Maybe with Apple Radio, iTunes Match and iTunes streaming included and data doesn't count against your plan ;)

Gary
 
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I was wondering about that, if I cancel, I can walk away with my iPhone free & clear?
(I renewed my plan and got a 6s three months ago).
My unlimited iPhone is the main line on the plan, does that get the other two non-unlimited 6s phones off the hook too?

Gary

Yes, you'd be fine on the unlimited line Gary.
Those other 2 lines that are not on unlimited data plan will still be subject to the early termination fee.
Contact AT&T for more details on how much the remaining ETF would be etc..
 
Well the next Apple iPhone rollout will be interesting -- you know where they show the price of all the phones at their subsidized costs. Now they'll have to say it "only" costs $649, $749 or $849 for the regular model and $749, $849, or $949 for the plus model.

Hopefully as people see the true costs of phones, some price competition will kick in.
They will likely just advertise them as "Starting at $30 a month" or something like that.
 
My understanding is yes... (I asked the same question and someone who seemed to know what they were talking about answered).

They've bit the bullet on those subsidized phones on day 1, and just make up their money over the course of the 2 year contract. So unless you've made some agreement that you pay for the phone in monthly installments, you should own it free and clear.

I'll be asking them to unlock mine the day I get the February bill.
Good. I'll do the same and switch to T-Mobile!

Do I go straight to T-Mobile and switch at the store there? Or go to an AT&T store first and cancel my contract? I don't want to lose my current phone number.
 
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How is that? They masked a significant unlimited plan increase (much more than AT&T's recent $5 hike) with the additional BingeOn service. That is sleazy.

Over the last 2 or so years (since the start of UnCarrier), they have increased the cost of their unlimited plan repeatedly, yet no one has said a damn thing.

but AT&T (and Verizon) do it ONCE and everyone freaks out? Are you kidding me?

The BingeOn service is great. Not sleazy, you can turn it off any time you want. You turn it on and stream all these video services and audio for free and they don't count a single KB out of your data plan. How can you go wrong with that? Its an option, options is what we didn't have for years with the 2 big carriers.
I don't know Man, I think AT&T is more sleazy and the oscar for most sleaziness got to Verizon :D lol
 
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Your access fee will be $25 if you buy a phone on Next and have a 5GB plan, not $40. Also, if you finance the phone with Next, there is no down payment, whereas upgrading a phone on contract costs several hundred dollars upfront (depending on the model). You also get the hotspot feature, are free to leave whenever you want without penalty, and can keep your existing phone as long as you want without continuing to pay for the baked-in subsidy. It may also be worthwhile to look at the total cost of the plan for your entire family.


I'm the only one in the family with a smartphone, and I'm the only one that texts. NEXT is a waste of money for my mother, father, and sister. They'd be paying for services they don't even use. NEXT is a waste of money for me too, considering I'm paying $30/month for 3GB and $5/month for 200 texts. I don't NEED what NEXT offers, that is the point. AT&T is forcing my hand, and they will lose business, at least my business as a result.

The people this change hurts the most are people who don't use smartphones. I don't even see plans for basic phones on AT&Ts website. We will probably need to look elsewhere for my families needs.
 
here to hoping the new rules make it possible to actually calculate easily what owning an phone and using it actually costs for better or for worse.
 
Good. I'll do the same and switch to T-Mobile!

Do I go straight to T-Mobile and switch at the store there? Or go to an AT&T store first and cancel my contract? I don't want to lose my current phone number.

Good question and I've been thinking about it too. I think the sequence will be:
  • get February bill
  • call AT&T and inform them that you want out of your contract, referencing no-ETF offer
  • ask AT&T to unlock your device (maybe it can be done all in the same phone call)
  • set up service with TMobile and ask the them to port the number
I don't think AT&T prorates your charges for the final month, so you might end up eating that (maybe you can be savvy and time it right to get the most out of your last month before they generate your next bill).

If you have Tmobile ship you a sim card, obviously there is some time lost there... don't know how that works if your service with AT&T has ended. I'm hoping I can stop by a Tmobile store and get a sim card from them immediately. Can you tell I haven't switched phone companies for an unhealthy period of time?

ETA: I still have my old iPhone 5s, which is unlocked. What I *might* do is set up service with Tmobile right as I'm cancelling with AT&T. If there's a bit of a delay (like getting things sorted with AT&T before they'll agree to unlock my 6s), I can just have the Tmobile service going with my old 5s. Then when everyone's done with AT&T and the 6s is properly unlocked, I'll pop the Tmobile sim in there. But I guess if I did it this way, I'd lose my phone number, so maybe not. If I had to be without cell service for a couple days, I could manage.
 
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You're better off buying a used unlocked iPhone and getting service through a low-cost MVNO. I pay $27/mo including taxes for my iPhone plan through Consumer Cellular, and my iPhone is a gently used iPhone 5S which I paid half the price than getting a brand new one.

I'm considering this because the full price of a new iPhone is astronomically out of my reach. Sure, I could sacrifice an entire paycheque or two to it, but then I'd still be locked into an expensive plan for the next two years on top of that. Do I get a lot of good use out of my current iPhone 4? Yes. Do I want to spend $700 + $100 x 24 for my next iPhone? No.
 
IF I decide to stick with AT&T that means I will no longer pay "upgrade" fees. I can front the money to buy the phone outright directly from Apple and then just put my SIM card in my new phone. That means I will at least save $40+ on every new phone!

Someone please correct me if I am wrong?
 
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