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Ive checked how much to trade in for Iphone XS Max 256GB was $402AUD but im giving away to my friend that need iphone badly after I receive a new Iphone 13 Pro Max 256GB soon
 
I would agree with that the device does not need to remain active on the line in order to continue to receive the bill credits. I interpret this as if you pay off the agreement early, etc, then the credits will stop.

I purchased an 2020 iPhone SE really cheap from Walmart about 18 months ago using an upgrade on another family member's line who did not need it. As soon as the phone was delivered, the SIM card was removed and it has been used off network as a side phone. I am continuing to receive bill credits on that line to this day. I feel you would be able to do whatever you'd like to do with the discounted device as long as you don't touch the line or the installment plan for the 36 month term. Hope this helps.
This is different situation because no activity on the line and is technically active. If you wanted to trade that phone in or sell, it would be locked. If you wanted to put different device on that line, the credits could stop.
 
I had a series of such horrific experiences with their in-store and phone reps that I will never purchase an iPhone from AT&T ever again. I don't care if I have to pay more money. I'd rather just deal with the actually competent people at my local Apple store.
 
If you wanted to put different device on that line, the credits could stop.

Not really. SIM swap with a free and clear phone should be no issue. It'd be just like if you broke the installment phone and had to replace it.
 
I would agree with that the device does not need to remain active on the line in order to continue to receive the bill credits. I interpret this as if you pay off the agreement early, etc, then the credits will stop.

I purchased an 2020 iPhone SE really cheap from Walmart about 18 months ago using an upgrade on another family member's line who did not need it. As soon as the phone was delivered, the SIM card was removed and it has been used off network as a side phone. I am continuing to receive bill credits on that line to this day. I feel you would be able to do whatever you'd like to do with the discounted device as long as you don't touch the line or the installment plan for the 36 month term. Hope this helps.

That was different because it was upfront a cheaper cost not credit subsidies applied

like activate the device and get it for $200/250 for 64/128GB split up over smaller payments with the option to pay off all together.

ie. I did it too, after a month or two of payments I paid the balance of $200 and change (since I went the $250 route 128gb route, still one of the more amazing deals) and it was unlocked and paid off and no commitment.

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this is different because its still $999 over 30/36 months, it's just the subsidy credits are discounted each and every month, so each and every month the discount is on the line, both literally and figuratively.

If that makes sense.

You cant just buy out the 12 pro for $200 and be done with it like you could with the SE2. Structurally its completely different.
 
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Not really. SIM swap with a free and clear phone should be no issue. It'd be just like if you broke the installment phone and had to replace it.
Ya, but talking about new device and no baggage. So I could go buy full price ip13 and swap sim but sitting on locked ip12 for 18-24 months getting credits but losing value.
 
Ya, but talking about new device and no baggage. So I could go buy full price ip13 and swap sim but sitting on locked ip12 for 18-24 months getting credits but losing value.

Never really cared about resale value. Then again, I don't upgrade often either. I kinda run my iPhones into the ground.
 
Can you trade in an iPhone to apple that is still being paid off at At&t towards the purchase of a unlocked iPhone?
 
Ya, but talking about new device and no baggage. So I could go buy full price ip13 and swap sim but sitting on locked ip12 for 18-24 months getting credits but losing value.
The reason we’re talking about this is because you should be able to sell that ip12 to pay for the ip13.
 
That’s a given on anything. Pay off and sell. Just big discussion on how to get full credits. Can’t sell or trade until paid off.
I don’t think that’s true. People have reportedly sold to apple while still owing.
 
I don’t think that’s true. People have reportedly sold to apple while still owing.
That’s the entire point right now in these deals with apple. If I can get $600+ From apple and still keep monthly credits from att im good. Otherwise this whole thing isn’t worth it.
 
Another wrinkle is that you can, after 30 days, pay off the 13 in full and continue to receive remaining monthly installment credits. When you do this, the phone is carrier unlocked.
 
It’s trade in iPhone 8 or newer as long as it meets $95 value on att trade in website tool you’ll get $800 trade in. They also launched a $1000 trade in offer for the PRO which seems to be trade in iPhone 11 or newer and get $1000 dollar credit.
As long as the device meets the $95 and $169 minimum trade in qualifier they will boost the trade in value to $800 and $1000
 
Another wrinkle is that you can, after 30 days, pay off the 13 in full and continue to receive remaining monthly installment credits. When you do this, the phone is carrier unlocked.

This is not true. Once the phone is paid off then the credits will stop. The credits only offset the monthly installment cost of the phone. If there is no more monthly installment then there is nothing to offset and the credits will stop.
 
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In the apple store app it shows I have to payoff the phone first if I upgrade. But if I buy a device outside it lets me trade in the phone
Not sure if on website you said upgrading and signed in number and ssn. When the trade in gets checked out at warehouse it will show locked and not accepted.
 
This is not true. Once the phone is paid off then the credits will stop. The credits only offset the monthly installment cost of the phone. If there is no more monthly installment then there is nothing to offset and the credits will stop.
AT&T employees have stated that credits continue. Will have to get better confirmation though.
? What is going on with the ip12 if it is locked?
I’m sorry, don’t know what you mean?
 
AT&T employees have stated that credits continue. Will have to get better confirmation though.

I’m sorry, don’t know what you mean?
Hi wickedrm, you may want to double check, but I’m nearly positive that if you pay off the phone early, the credits will no longer be issued to you.
 
Hi wickedrm, you may want to double check, but I’m nearly positive that if you pay off the phone early, the credits will no longer be issued to you.
These are the portions of the terms that deal with this topic:

“To get all the credits, the discounted device must remain on installment agreement and you must keep eligible service for entire installment term.”

The device will remain on the installment because you will not upgrade the line through AT&T. (That’s not to say you can’t bring on a different phone). No problems there. You will keep service on the line. No problem there.

“If you upgrade or pay up/off the installment agreement on the discounted device early, your credits may cease.”

Upgrade, again won’t do that. Pay up/off, here’s the possible kicker. Notice, however, that it says credits may cease. Maybe this is wishcasting, but with some evidence that AT&T does not actually enforce this (reported by Reddit (lol) users as well as macrumor users), I can see how credits could continue to be applied.

I am not an AT&T employee, but some evidence (although anecdotal) indicates it’s possible you can pay off the phone and continue to receive credits. I would love if more users could share their experiences to shed more light on this subject.
 
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These are the portions of the terms that deal with this topic:

“To get all the credits, the discounted device must remain on installment agreement and you must keep eligible service for entire installment term.”

The device will remain on the installment because you will not upgrade the line through AT&T. (That’s not to say you can’t bring on a different phone). No problems there. You will keep service on the line. No problem there.

“If you upgrade or pay up/off the installment agreement on the discounted device early, your credits may cease.”

Upgrade, again won’t do that. Pay up/off, here’s the possible kicker. Notice, however, that it says credits may cease. Maybe this is wishcasting, but with some evidence that AT&T does not actually enforce this (reported by Reddit (lol) users as well as macrumor users), I can see how credits could continue to be applied.

I am not an AT&T employee, but some evidence (although anecdotal) indicates it’s possible you can pay off the phone and continue to receive credits. I would love if more users could share their experiences to shed more light on this subject.
Interesting. Is this for the current iPhone 13 offer or the prior $700 iPhone 12 offer?

I had wondered if AT&T would stop by credits if I bought, say, an iPhone 14 outright and off contract, and just swapped my SIM from my iPhone 12 Pro on the $700 offer to the iPhone 14.
 
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