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AT&T UDP: Been Throttled After 5gb Recently??

jav6454 said:
Show me one experience where the things I mentioned are "ruined" due to 500kb/s to 1Mb/s speeds at 65ms pings?

Go on... I can hardly see something in the iPhone requiring so much bandwidth. There are two things perhaps, if you have YouTube and want 720p video, or watching a live video feed.
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I didn't say it ruins the experience. I said it makes it much slower. It should be pretty easy to understand that. If you're throughput is only 500kbits/second, that means you're only able to download 62.5 kB within a single second. To put that into perspective, loading the Apple homepage requires you to transfer approximately 800 kB; that will take about 13 seconds when throttled
 
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terraphantm said:
That's simply not true. 500kbits is pretty slow and will cause certain things to load slowly even with extremely fast pings. Text-based websites will be okay. Everything else will be quite slow

Both ping and bandwidth are important.
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Still better then the 28.8k I grew up with.
 
dmylrea said:
Not sure why you are so adamant about this. Earlier you wrote that you didn't want to have to worry about going over your allotted 30GB (like, you would really go over that?), but in this case, you may have unlimited data, but now you get to worry that you your speeds are so slow that you are limited on what you can do! Doesn't sound unlimited anymore to me.

If all you do is listen to internet radio and manage your Facebook, then I say you're only using about 1% of the phone. To the REST OF US, 0.5Mbps is not fast enough to be usable.
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Ok, the 30GB is not per line might I remind you. It is 30GB shared. That means that if you have a family of four, it becomes around ~7GB a person (or with friends). Ether way, 7GB a month is very much breakable.

I am assuming the average family of four can give themselves the allowance of a 30GB plan.

Once that imaginary cap is broken, then you are consuming someone else's data. Which depending on the group of people might or might not be a good thing. However, lets say you are in a group of tech savy friends. Consuming yours and other's data allowance will be a big no-no. You'll run through those 30GB easily and you'll start paying extra. Oh AT&T will love having you paying for the extra data.

Your friends? Not so much?

terraphantm said:
I didn't say it ruins the experience. I said it makes it much slower. It should be pretty easy to understand that. If you're throughput is only 500kbits/second, that means you're only able to download 62.5 kB within a single second. To put that into perspective, loading the Apple homepage requires you to transfer approximately 800 kB; that will take about 13 seconds when throttled
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So what? I don't view Apple's homepage every day. Neither do many of the average people here. People more likely load up Pandora, Spotify, or iTunes Radio. And if they happen to look for something, they usually google it first. More so, they might end up on the mobile site of a place which is much smaller than the desktop one. In a sense, you won't notice it.

However, if you love to download stuff via hotspot you might. But then again, hotspot is not part of the Unlimited data plan...
 
jav6454 said:
Ok, the 30GB is not per line might I remind you. It is 30GB shared. That means that if you have a family of four, it becomes around ~7GB a person (or with friends). Ether way, 7GB a month is very much breakable.
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Not doing JUST what you keep using for examples of typical iPhone usage!!! You can't have it both ways...you can't keep saying no one does anything that uses much data on an iPhone, and then say that 7GB is not enough!! Let me tell you, I do pretty much everything on my iPhone (except watch movies), and I use about 3-5GB per month. So, 7GB is very much doable for what you call a typical iPhone user.

Plus, you're now assuming a family of four? How much then would you say that 4 separate unlimited plans are per month for that family of four? There's no such thing as an unlimited family share plan! Now, how much is Family Share with 4 lines (NEXT or non-contract), unlimited talk/text with 30GB? $190. Cheaper by far with lots of room to add more data and STILL be saving money.
 
dmylrea said:
Not doing JUST what you keep using for examples of typical iPhone usage!!! You can't have it both ways...you can't keep saying no one does anything that uses much data on an iPhone, and then say that 7GB is not enough!! Let me tell you, I do pretty much everything on my iPhone (except watch movies), and I use about 3-5GB per month. So, 7GB is very much doable for what you call a typical iPhone user.

Plus, you're now assuming a family of four? How much then would you say that 4 separate unlimited plans are per month for that family of four? There's no such thing as an unlimited family share plan! Now, how much is Family Share with 4 lines (NEXT or non-contract), unlimited talk/text with 30GB? $190. Cheaper by far with lots of room to add more data and STILL be saving money.
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Ok, first of all, all of you are comparing the 30GB plan to the unlimited plan. So to keep it simple, I kept on doing that. But I can easily point out the flaws in such idiotic logic as well.

Now... let me use something you just stated. I have bolded it out... so in theory, you will never notice the throttling since according to you, you never use more than 5GB a month. In other words, you are paying for the 30GB plan as a speed guarantee.

I assume a family of four since a 30GB plan is not meant to as an individual plan. At 30GB you start at $160/month and that is for two lines. So yes you theoretically get 15GB of data per line, but also up pay for the data. Since $160/month is usually closer to $200/month after taxes and fees. But for the sake of comparison lets assume the 30GB plan is used as a individual plan; you are basically paying ~$200/month to not be throttled. Sounds silly to me; but if you got the money to spend, by all means be my guest.

Best pricing is had when you have 5 people at the 30GB plan, which brings the cost down to ~$50 after taxes and fees, and everyone gets 5GB of data.
 
jav6454 said:
Show me one experience where the things I mentioned are "ruined" due to 500kb/s to 1Mb/s speeds at 65ms pings?

Go on... I can hardly see something in the iPhone requiring so much bandwidth. There are two things perhaps, if you have YouTube and want 720p video, or watching a live video feed.
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When I got throttled the first time ever last June, I couldn't do a damn thing. It was horrible. Facebook took forever to load, twitter too. I couldn't use WatchESPN, get emails or anything in a reasonable amount of time. Everything just tok forever, and by forever I mean 30 seconds to 1 min to load facebook, 30 seconds to load twitter. It's absurd.
 
hpman247 said:
When I got throttled the first time ever last June, I couldn't do a damn thing. It was horrible. Facebook took forever to load, twitter too. I couldn't use WatchESPN, get emails or anything in a reasonable amount of time. Everything just tok forever, and by forever I mean 30 seconds to 1 min to load facebook, 30 seconds to load twitter. It's absurd.
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You have your SpeedTests?
 
hpman247 said:
When I got throttled the first time ever last June, I couldn't do a damn thing. It was horrible. Facebook took forever to load, twitter too. I couldn't use WatchESPN, get emails or anything in a reasonable amount of time. Everything just tok forever, and by forever I mean 30 seconds to 1 min to load facebook, 30 seconds to load twitter. It's absurd.
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What kind of download speeds were you getting when throttled?
 
hpman247 said:
When I got throttled the first time ever last June, I couldn't do a damn thing. It was horrible. Facebook took forever to load, twitter too. I couldn't use WatchESPN, get emails or anything in a reasonable amount of time. Everything just tok forever, and by forever I mean 30 seconds to 1 min to load facebook, 30 seconds to load twitter. It's absurd.
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With an lte att device throttled you shouldn't have any probs doing all that above.
Unless you like to exaggerate cause with 0.5mb everyone else can do it fine.
 
hpman247 said:
When I got throttled the first time ever last June, I couldn't do a damn thing. It was horrible. Facebook took forever to load, twitter too. I couldn't use WatchESPN, get emails or anything in a reasonable amount of time. Everything just tok forever, and by forever I mean 30 seconds to 1 min to load facebook, 30 seconds to load twitter. It's absurd.
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Couldn't agree more. I'm throttled every month and beside streaming music, the rest sucks. .5 downs is useless for most things.
 
jav6454 said:
So what? I don't view Apple's homepage every day. Neither do many of the average people here. People more likely load up Pandora, Spotify, or iTunes Radio. And if they happen to look for something, they usually google it first. More so, they might end up on the mobile site of a place which is much smaller than the desktop one. In a sense, you won't notice it.

However, if you love to download stuff via hotspot you might. But then again, hotspot is not part of the Unlimited data plan...
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The Apple website was just an example. CNN is 1.8MB. The New York Times is 3 MB. Endgadget is 2.4 MB. New York Post is 5.7MB. The macrumors homepage is 2.1 MB. Need I continue? These are all websites people browse every day that would load extremely slowly on a 500 kbit connection.

And what makes you think people only use their phones for streaming audio? I sure as hell don't. The vast majority of my use is browsing the web. And given that was one of the selling points of the iPhone from the very beginning, I suspect I'm not alone in that.

Hal~9000 said:
Sprint users would disagree.
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I think even Sprint users agree that Sprint on the whole is pretty useless
 
jav6454 said:
Ok, first of all, all of you are comparing the 30GB plan to the unlimited plan. So to keep it simple, I kept on doing that. But I can easily point out the flaws in such idiotic logic as well.

Now... let me use something you just stated. I have bolded it out... so in theory, you will never notice the throttling since according to you, you never use more than 5GB a month. In other words, you are paying for the 30GB plan as a speed guarantee.

I assume a family of four since a 30GB plan is not meant to as an individual plan. At 30GB you start at $160/month and that is for two lines. So yes you theoretically get 15GB of data per line, but also up pay for the data. Since $160/month is usually closer to $200/month after taxes and fees. But for the sake of comparison lets assume the 30GB plan is used as a individual plan; you are basically paying ~$200/month to not be throttled. Sounds silly to me; but if you got the money to spend, by all means be my guest.

Best pricing is had when you have 5 people at the 30GB plan, which brings the cost down to ~$50 after taxes and fees, and everyone gets 5GB of data.
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You make my head spin...you mix up everything that is said. I said I, personally, use no more than 5GB, and that was with respect to your assertion that you would have to really watch your usage of 7GB just doing internet radio and facebook. I never said I even had the 30GB plan, or that I am the only person on my plan. In fact, I have 8 phones on my 10GB plan, but that is irrelevant here.

Since my logic is "idiotic", we'll just call it a day.
 
I got sick of being throttled at 5. So mobile share it was. I called several times and complained nicely saying, I'm fine with throttling but slowing the phone to practically useless is not fair at all. Slow on the internet is one thing, not being able to open an email without is not.
 
How can you not open an email or load a site or use twitter at 0.5mb?
Tmobile throttles at around 120kbps, now that would be way worst IMO.
AT&T's is not that bad. My kids can still view youtube videos while Im throttled.
 
KillaMac said:
Oh I am sorry, I have a life and don't hang out on the internet all day looking at tons of different sites to know there is a difference between two saying they were and a few others saying they decided not too. Get real.
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But you do have time to read the forum and get your information here? I am real. Google is your friend.
 
KillaMac said:
Oh I am sorry, I have a life and don't hang out on the internet all day looking at tons of different sites to know there is a difference between two saying they were and a few others saying they decided not too. Get real.
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Had the first comma been a period instead, this would be a decent apology, but instead, it's just as rude as the other response.

The real part is, all you need to do is visit the Front Page of Macrumors once a day. Not tons of sites (do sites actually weigh anything, and if so, how many equal a ton?) or all day. Just 5-10 minutes. You would have seen this article on the front page 4 days ago.
 
AT&T UDP: Been Throttled After 5gb Recently??

My ATT LTE data has been throttled at 5GB several times this billing period. However, it seems like the throttle goes away randomly when I turn airplane mode on and off. I did that this morning and the LTE 5GB throttle disappeared for the entire day.
 
AT&T UDP: Been Throttled After 5gb Recently??

You weren't being throttled. If you had been, switching airplane mode would not have fixed that. Sometimes it's just slow.
 
I get throttled every month for the last 3 years. I routinely use 7-11 GB per month.
 

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ZBoater said:
You weren't being throttled. If you had been, switching airplane mode would not have fixed that. Sometimes it's just slow.
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It's definitely being throttled after 5GB of LTE use. Sometimes airplane mode needs to be switched on and off several times for the throttle to disappear.

There's also the following procedure but I haven't needed to try it.

https://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=17909235
 
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