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AT&T Unimpressed With 'Operation Chokehold' Proposal to Strain Cellular Network
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I think that emergency calls would still get through. Those are picked up by any cell tower, not just the ones AT&T owns.
As for your last comment, if you DID own an iPhone, perhaps you would understand the frustration that iPhone users are going through.
Either way, you can't argue that pulling a stunt like that is very deceptive and unethical in general. If I signed up for unlimited without a cap, they should honor that for all current users. If they want to change it going forward for new subscribers, FINE! They made their bed, now sleep in it!
Uh, no. It's in the fine print. You don't read it, it's your loss. It's neither deceptive nor unethical, especially when AT&T actually doesn't enforce reasonable limits whereas Verizon famously does.
You wishing hurt to somebodys loved one....and the pr0n guy is the loser??? No sir you're a loser, but I still wouldn't wish pain on your family/friends.
Everyone worrying about emergency calls not going through read what this man has written!!!!
I'll say it again so hopefully you understand..... (though I'm sure you won't...)
911 will not be affected. Voice and data are 2 different bandwidths, and when u dial 911 it uses the first available signal, which could be verizon or t-mobile.
Hard to make a call on a CDMA tower with a GSM phone
.T-Mobile maybe. But they're on different bands in some areas, so a lot of phones wouldn't work.
Show me where AT&T has a cap or limit on the unlimited iPhone data plans!
Hard to make a call on a CDMA tower with a GSM phone
T-Mobile maybe. But they're on different bands in some areas, so a lot of phones wouldn't work.
Oh
gotcha, makes sense. So what side are you on? To chokehold or not?Oh
I'm one of those mythical people who aren't angry at AT&T. The service has always been good where I use it, and I'm not worried about a 5GB bandwidth cap. I don't see the point in being immature with AT&T's network. I'm not apologizing for AT&T's awful service in a lot of places, but mobile communications kinda blows in this country regardless of carrier.
That said, anyone comparing this to terrorism or being otherwise ridiculous should take a break from the internet for a while and assemble their common sense. Using a lot of cell towers is kind of a douchey move but it isn't even close to violent extremism of any type.
I think the issue I have is they call it "Unlimited" in all their marketing material. If they cap it, make sure they don't mislead consumers.
I'm sure Verizon would come out with a new commercial about bandwidth caps. I wonder if there's a map for that?
just so you all know:
LTE is 3.9G the last iteration of 3G and NOT 4G as eveyone is reporting - FACT
LTE is 3.9G the last iteration of 3G and NOT 4G as eveyone is reporting - FACT
Data is about to become hugely more important for these kinds of devices. Say Apple comes out with a tablet - Can you see a user consuming more than 5GB of data month? - I think I can.
That's like a 170 MB a day. Can you picture a world where a user watches, say, a half hour news show on their device every day? You've just been capped.
I hope AT&T is investing as much money in increasing their capacity as they are in creating systems to track usage data. Somehow, I don't think that's the case.
That's like a 170 MB a day. Can you picture a world where a user watches, say, a half hour news show on their device every day? You've just been capped.
I hope AT&T is investing as much money in increasing their capacity as they are in creating systems to track usage data. Somehow, I don't think that's the case.
Then may you get what Fake Steve Jobs gets when he gets raked over the coals for premeditating a DDoS over ATT's network. You'd duly deserve it.
Oh.. and don't be surprised if you end up on the business end of someone's grief-driven anger and rage. See below for why.
And in an emergency, and especially with prices today, who is going to run to the closest WiFi hotspot or remember to jailbreak their iPhone to use 3GUnrestrictor or something, to make a call over the internet? Who's going to pay the 50cents to even use the payphone, if one is around, if they are still around at all? If you're out and no-where near a landline phone, how are you going to use one?
This fails.
How about this, and I'm going to make myself completely vulnerable here, but:
4) with my SO going through a very high risk pregnancy right now, if something happens on Friday and she can not get to me or any paramedics for anything because of this immatre little act, and we lose our child over it, I'm pretty sure second degree murder could be added to those list of charges. It would suck if some ******** trying to DDoS ATT's network ends up preventing a pregnant woman's call for help to go unanswered, and everyone who participated in the DDoS would be outright defendants or accomplices in the act.
So Matt, while you think about that, shame on YOU for supporting something assassine like this, all because you think you're entitled to something better than what you're getting. Just be happy you're alive and breathing. A lot of people could die because of a stupid immature stunt like this.
BL.
I agree that it's not exactly honest to call it unlimited. Nobody in telecom is honest. But ISPs and cell providers are dead set on bandwidth caps instead of upgrading their infrastructure, and we have little recourse, except hoping we get to pay even more for more data.
Except for using WiFi more (or salting the earth and cancelling service, but
very few of us will do that), we're nearly out of luck.
I sure hope you're not about to quote the United Nations ITU organization. Nobody listens to their definitions... not even themselves.
A while back they even published a white paper admitting that no one else in the world described EDGE as 3G, and that everyone else did call LTE 4G.
You see, they came up with those old descriptions back in the year 2000. Unfortunately they've been repeated constantly since then. (Wikipedia comes to mind.)
I guess what I said in another thread is relevant....
All this is going to do is give AT&T another reason to put a cap on data usage. How in anyway is using MORE data going to make AT&T not want to put a data cap on us?
All this is going to do is give AT&T another reason to put a cap on data usage. How in anyway is using MORE data going to make AT&T not want to put a data cap on us?
your so smart u make my brain hUrt .
I no haveum da IPoNe thingy sO I tottttaly aGreee .
I don't understand why people wouldn't be involved in this. It's not really childish; all that people are doing is running apps on their phones. Something the network should be able to handle. A normal operation.
Yes perhaps a more 'mature' thing to do would to simply move to another carrier. Let the natural course of capitalism and the unsatisfied customer make the corporation respond. But maybe I don't want to wait a year until my contract is out to get good service. This seems like a something that would shove the fact that At&t's service is not what it should be into their face, and make them respond, instead of a "we're fixing it, we promise" that the customers just have to deal with. I want a response as soon as possible.
Yes At&t knows of the issue, but that doesn't mean that their fixing it as fast as they should be. It certainly hasn't been fixed for many of my friends, and not for me.
And it is bull that anyone would think that were putting people at risk. I didn't know that the world revolved around At&t's service to save people's lives. I could have sworn that their were other ways to communicate to the police, like say, "hey can I borrow your reliable Verizon cell phone?" Or "hey, a land line!" I forgot that we couldn't report an emergency before there were wireless networks.
I can't even fathom that someone would compare this to a suicide bombing. Yes, I normally run into a crowd and blow myself up just as often as a run an application on my iphone They ten to kill just as many people too....
There is a difference between running an application and killing people Maybe I'd do one and not the other... I wonder which?
Yes perhaps a more 'mature' thing to do would to simply move to another carrier. Let the natural course of capitalism and the unsatisfied customer make the corporation respond. But maybe I don't want to wait a year until my contract is out to get good service. This seems like a something that would shove the fact that At&t's service is not what it should be into their face, and make them respond, instead of a "we're fixing it, we promise" that the customers just have to deal with. I want a response as soon as possible.
Yes At&t knows of the issue, but that doesn't mean that their fixing it as fast as they should be. It certainly hasn't been fixed for many of my friends, and not for me.
And it is bull that anyone would think that were putting people at risk. I didn't know that the world revolved around At&t's service to save people's lives. I could have sworn that their were other ways to communicate to the police, like say, "hey can I borrow your reliable Verizon cell phone?" Or "hey, a land line!" I forgot that we couldn't report an emergency before there were wireless networks.
I can't even fathom that someone would compare this to a suicide bombing. Yes, I normally run into a crowd and blow myself up just as often as a run an application on my iphone
They ten to kill just as many people too....There is a difference between running an application and killing people
Maybe I'd do one and not the other... I wonder which?
Why I don't want to
Because I need ATT for my cell phone to work. I don't want to bring ATT down to its knees as it affects me
It is very childish as the intention is to bog down ATT. This is akin to DOS attacks. Very immature
Why I don't want to
Because I need ATT for my cell phone to work. I don't want to bring ATT down to its knees as it affects me
It is very childish as the intention is to bog down ATT. This is akin to DOS attacks. Very immature
But not quite. Maybe I misunderstand how it works, but I thought that running a data intensive app will use up the data network, something that is separate from the network which is used to make and receive phone calls. So while maybe you wouldn't be able to browse the internet, making a phone call would be quite fine (if your service in your area allows). Can you live without the internet for a little while? Doesn't seem like that big a deal.
I'd like if someone could clear this up though, because I'm not 100% sure. Will bringing down the data network affect making phone calls?
And like was said before, 911 goes through any service, so emergencies calls will go through regardless of whether att's service is available.
My post still applies. Why would I participate in something that negatively affects me? Maybe I am missing the logic
Haha well alright, if you've never had a problem, then don't participate. I made the assumption you were like me, and had problems that should be fixed. I certainly hope you never have them.