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Is NFL Network offered in ANY of their packages??

You would think after spending 80 Gajillion dollars for the Sunday Ticket exclusivity they would get a sweetheart deal for regular NFL Network...
 
You do realise that the US is not the world, right? What I'm saying is that for many folks in the world, you just can't buy the stuff now, even when you try to.

The industry divides the world up when in reality all content can be shared anywhere at any time; the technology is here. Now. For the last however many years already.

They make their kazillion dollars by selling and then reselling content through their geofenced, archaic model, and yes, they don't have a lot of motivation to change right now. Fat cats getting fatter at the expense of us shmucks.

The world has so much conflict because of the rich and powerful deliberately and systematically screwing everyone else.

We almost have a moral obligation to torrent the #### out of everything until their sorry-ass comes crawling back with a decent deal for everyone.

It's TV. It's not a necessity or a human right. They can, and will, sell it how they see fit. Don't bitch about them making a profit on it though. If you don't like it don't buy it. Don't torrent it either. By torrenting you are, in a way, supporting it by contributing to the popularity of a show or movie, which just goes to help justify the price. The only way is to not consume it at all. Anything else is hypocritical.
 
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  • Can you subscribe and pay through iTunes?
  • And if so can you pay the 3 months upfront and get the :apple:TV (shipped or picked up)?
  • Is HBO Now or HBO Go included with the HBO package (all HBO on demand)?
 
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Gonna threadjack a tad here ... just this weekend tried Sling (had heard good things) and the OSU / UM game was nothing but a stutter-fest, when I was even able to get connected to it. 50Mpbs speed, network checked out fine, tried different devices (Mac / Phone / etc). Do you think this was this just a case of overload for them or do you have to deal with these kinds of issues fairly often? I'm trying not to judge by this one event.
ESPN can get overloaded on their servers.
 
Perfect way to get TV on your mobile device if you're with AT&T. Streaming from DirecTV Now is free on AT&T devices.

I wonder how much is free though? I can't just cut my TV service, then stream all my TV from my phone to my Apple TV? I'm sure AT&T will put restrictions on it soon.

I dont have to worry about DATA .. way to go tmobile.....
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Better have a Roku app Day 1. And cloud DVR.
Roku is a horrible device ... and an never ever be compared with apple tv 4
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ESPN can get overloaded on their servers.
Never ... you are talking about ESPN ... have you ever used their watch ESPN app...

the fastest apps on the planet with best resolution ...
espn and CNN is the best IOS apps for streaming ...
 
Here is their listings ....

https://imgur.com/a/u9BIl


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It is not actually, which surprises me

Thanks, this is what I was looking for. Comcast SportsNet is available, thats what I wanted to know most so I could continue to see Warriors games.

I wonder if there will be an additional fee if you are in a broadcast market like PS Vue. PS Vue is $10 more in the Bay Area because we can watch the major networks live. $45 for PS Vue + $15 for HBO Now is obviously more than $35 for DTVN + $5 HBO, but the VOD/DVR thing is the deciding factor because I can almost never watch things live. The presentation mentioned that "Favorites" are working now, and you could pause, resume, etc, and the guy said it was VOD. If they dont have a true DVR but more like PS Vue where you just favorite the show you like then have 30 days to watch each episode or event then thats good enough.

Its cheap enough that I may get DTVN in addition to PS Vue for a 3 months (and get the free ATV) just to see how things play out, then cancel one.
 
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I dont have to worry about DATA .. way to go tmobile.....
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Roku is a horrible device ... and an never ever be compared with apple tv 4
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Never ... you are talking about ESPN ... have you ever used their watch ESPN app...

the fastest apps on the planet with best resolution ...
espn and CNN is the best IOS apps for streaming ...


however ... 35 a month is expansive ... remember how these ISP compnay playing the game these days ...
for example i have TWC ... if i get just 20 MBPS internet I pay $90+
if I get internet( 200 MBPS ) + Phone + 70 channel including all commonly watched channel like CNN, FOX, AMC, TBS, TNT and Disney ...

I still pay $90+ wow ... so people like me have to stuck with TWC ....
and TWC app is very very good but it is only on Roku .. and I do not like Roku ...

TWC is already doing streaming only service in I believe in NYC ...
so they are also jumping in this streaming business VERY SOON .... and now TWC and some other co merged and now calls SPECTRUM ...
you will have one single sign on .. for example CNN app doesn't work with TWC login ... but it works with charter spectrum ....
 
This guy gets it. It's the shows that people should really care about - not the network channels or subsidized bundle packages. You see it's the content that drives consumer interest. It's the content itself that makes or breaks a network.

So many here have been blasting ala carte TV or in the above case also carte content. I will summarize all of the opposition arguments from this view in quotes below, then I'll tell you why these are irrelevant and why ala carte is still better and what everyone should want.

"You ignorant millenials have no idea how the business model works. It costs a lot of money to create content. If you take away subsidized content, the number of channels would go down, reducing choice and driving up costs for the individual channels, so you'd be paying just as much for your ten channels as you would for 60, reducing choice. Content providers would also cater to the content that gets the best ratings with the most people, so content creators and networks would take less risk"

Sure, the prices will go up on a per channel basis. Yep, I understand that I may pay the same or nearly the same for 10 ala carte channels as I would for 60. For me, it's never been about saving money per se. It's about 'trimming the fat'. Subsidies of any kind are bad. Period. Whether it's government subsidies on sugar or network channel subsidies from cable providers, they all have one thing in common: they hinder the beautiful model of free market capitalism.

Sure, many (barely watched) networks/channels would die, but I would submit to you those that survive would thrive because they'd be driven (hard) to produce content that people actually want to watch. I don't have a problem with content providers being driven by the 'lowest common denominator' if that means that they simply are driven to create content that the majority of people want to watch.

The free market would decide which channels can stand on their own based on the content they have and those who would be willing to pay for said content. It would drive up competition between networks even further, which always increases customer satisfaction and reduces price (in this case on a per channel basis).

Free market calitalism is great mmmmk. Forcing the networks to compete against each other based on their content would also be great. Letting other networks die because they have crap content would be great. Others would rise to take their place. Reducing the clutter of garbage channels and content that nobody wants to watch would be great.

This is the Free Market at work. The Free Market is about making money, not competition, and the companies we are talking about have figured out that bundling, media ownership consolidation, etc., is the best way to make the most money with the least amount of risk. Forcing them to unbundle, via a government mandate I assume, would go against the Free Market ideology even though it might bring about more competition.

A long time ago business peopled figured out that a great way to make money is to price some things less expensively (sometimes even giving them away) in order to entice customers to buy other products that have much healthier profits. Companies 'subsidize' their own products and/or services through vertical integration all the time.

For example, giving away razors but having insane mark up on the razor blades. Selling printers at cost but making bank selling ink. A department store having a sale on TVs in hopes that once people get in the door they will buy other things that are not on sale (Black Friday is the epitome of this). In Jobs' own words the iTMS was created as a break-even store in order to entice people to buy iPods (selling hardware is where all the profit was). Movie theaters make money selling soda and popcorn, not selling movie tickets. McDonalds (I mean the mother ship, not the local joint down the street) makes its money via leasing real estate, not selling burgers.

Financially unsuccessful movies and TV shows (of which there are many) from Company X are subsidized by super successful movies and TV shows (of which their are relatively few) from Company X. This is why Company X puts so much emphasis on summer blockbusters, franchises, remakes, movies that will play well overseas, etc., in order to balance out the risks involved.
 
So you can't add local hd channels to the package. Antenna will not work at my location.
ABC, Fox, and NBC will be available in certain markets. Most likely only markets where the Network owns the station.

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Above are the network owned properties and their respective markets
 
Not sure how so many of you complain about paying receiver fees. When I had directv, I had a charge for every extra receiver, plus a credit for those extra receivers every month. If the credits ever ran out, I would threaten to cancel. And before you know it, those credits would show back on my bill.
 
Can one apply for the go big package, now 35$ for a limited time, pay the three months and still get the apple TV for free? Sounds like a great deal for a free apple tv.
 
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Can one apply for the go big package, now 35$ for a limited time, pay the three months and still get the apple TV for free? Sounds like a great deal for a free apple tv.

Yes. From what I understood is that you have to go to ATT store, pay 3 months in full and walk out with Apple TV.
 
Yes. From what I understood is that you have to go to ATT store, pay 3 months in full and walk out with Apple TV.

I was wondering how that would work. My guess is it won't be that easy. You'll have some kid working there being forced to harass you to change all of your services to AT&T. I doubt that it would be an in and out process for those of us not already with AT&T.
 
I was wondering how that would work. My guess is it won't be that easy. You'll have some kid working there being forced to harass you to change all of your services to AT&T. I doubt that it would be an in and out process for those of us not already with AT&T.

Oh, I'm sure they want to lure you in for a reason.
 
I dont have to worry about DATA .. way to go tmobile.....
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Roku is a horrible device ... and an never ever be compared with apple tv 4
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Never ... you are talking about ESPN ... have you ever used their watch ESPN app...

the fastest apps on the planet with best resolution ...
espn and CNN is the best IOS apps for streaming ...

That's the most ridiculous thing I've read all day. I have three stream sticks and they all work flawless. All services available without the arbitrary blocking of services (ie Amazon, Spotify) to enhance Apple's services.
 
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Well your case obviously isn't what I was referring to. :D

I was speaking to the people who pay for Comcast Internet along with Comcast TV channels or whatever.

But yeah... for you with separate internet... you can choose whatever TV service you want!

I gotta ask... does this DirectTV thing interest you? Do you not have any TV channels at all?

Not at these price points. I've tried Sling for the trial, I've tried PS Vue for the trial, and didn't find the service worth the costs (as I literally only watch a few of the channels, but have to get one of the top tier packages to get them all). So I end up with 90+ channels that I don't watch to get the few I do (and of course pay for them).
 
Also just realized that HBO is for the main channel only. The other HBO channels are not included for the $5. I'd also hope that other RSN's are available and perhaps just not listed.
 
Unlike some of you I don't worry about the channels that I don't watch. Since Comcast would charge me way more than $35 for a package including the channels I want to watch and not even provide them in HD without a ridiculous extra fee for HD, this DirecTV Now package seems like a great deal! I'll be signing up tomorrow morning.
 
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Roku is a horrible device ... and an never ever be compared with apple tv 4

o_O, seriously? Roku vs Apple TV 4? Open Platform vs Closed Platform? Man I want some of whatever you're smoking. While I will agree that the Apple TV, Fire TV, Chromecast, Etc. all have their niches (Especially if you only consume content from a single provider). But when it comes to the most streaming channels, with no restrictions/limitations, Roku is the only device to even consider. I'm still on Roku 3's at the moment, but will be upgrading when I upgrade our house to 4K tv's for xmas.
 
Is NFL Network offered in ANY of their packages??

You would think after spending 80 Gajillion dollars for the Sunday Ticket exclusivity they would get a sweetheart deal for regular NFL Network...

I thought I read Verizon had streaming rights for NFL games, but then I just read this:

http://www.recode.net/2016/4/5/11585872/twitter-beats-amazon-verizon-for-global-nfl-streaming-deal

From CNET:

"DirecTV Now doesn't include a parallel for DirecTV's popular NFL Sunday Ticket product, which unlocks the ability to watch to every Sunday pro football game even if you're watching in an area where that game isn't being broadcast.

NFL content is tricky, generally, on DirecTV Now. Verizon has an exclusive mobile live-streaming deal with the pro football league, which means that DirecTV Now won't have mobile live viewing of games. Some local broadcast networks that aren't owned and operated by their parent company may not make NFL games and other primetime content available live, with some available a day after airing."
 
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