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Don't spread FUD... I got a thunderbolt drive with a $99 adapter and a $100 mSATA drive. I'm hoping MR does an article on it someday... It's quite a neat setup that most people don't know about.



kudos to you for throwing around the FUD acronym here - seems it's the thing now on MacRumors. congratulations. and how am i spreading FUD? go look what a 4 bay Pegasus Thunderbolt device will cost you. $1,099. that's what i am talking about. not some petty single bay enclosure. what capacity is your $100 mSATA SSD drive anyways? 128GB drives are toys in the world i live in. even a 256GB...heck...even a 512GB external drive is a toy to me. i don't care how fast the read/write speed is...what good is it if it's a capacity standard from 2006

i have a Windows Home Server with (5) x 2TB drives. to use the Thunderbolt port in a similar setup would cost me $2,299. a Thunderbolt hub costs $399 - RE Belkin device. i'm not talking about an adapter - i'm talking about a hub. after all...the beauty of Thunderbolt is the ability to have many many devices without a slow down right? oh wait, i just checked. ok so there is a Lacie hub for $199. ohhhhh what a deal

i laugh when i see these regular SeaGate and Lacie external drive + enclosure thunderbolt products in 3TB sizes for $349. i try to see the logic of using regular 7200rpm hard drives via a Thunderbolt port...but there is none. the bottleneck has never been USB 3.0 - it has always been the read/write speeds of the drive itself.

Thunderbolt has not realistically caught on after nearly 2 years of being out. i see a limited number of products at absurd price points. Thunderbolt cannot be compared to the CD when it first came out, or the USB port when that came out. they gained instant popularity. Thunderbolt is struggling
 
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# grandfathered plans excluded

They can have my grandfathered unlimited when they take it from my cold dead hands. They take it, I'll jump to T-Mobile, and by the time that happens, there won't be a difference. So they best leave me the hell alone.
 
Thanks T-Mobile.

Now I hope they get the DATA memo and offer unlimited back. If not, at least do what T-Mobile does, no data overages.

:rolleyes:
 
Yay! I wonder how much THIS is gonna charge us!

THIS won't charge us a dime as it's a feature and doesn't have that ability. ATT may decide to charge but I don't believe they are.

Does this fix the dropped calls? :rolleyes:
What dropped calls? If you have them maybe you should of picked a better provider in your area.

1. It sounds so much better. When you're talking to someone you care about, it makes a huge difference and you feel closer.
LoL what? Really? "Mom, this call is SOOOOO much better because your voice is in HD..... wow mom, I feel like you're right next to me". Yeah no, no, and no.

2. It is a huge improvement in noise canceling.
Ok, THIS actually makes sense.

3. It can help protect your hearing (dispersing a sound over more frequencies rather than pumping up limited frequencies for volume) and reduce ear fatigue on long calls.
LoL at you on this one too!! Ear fatigue? Been doing the medical deal for about 15 years and though I'm not an audiologist, ear fatigue on a typical phone call of ANY duration is a funny concept. Of course unless you're listening at high volumes and the call is a very long call.

Once you experience it, you will care.

I will enjoy it when it is available but don't need to make up silly reasons why. It will sound better, all you need to say.
 
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They will magically roll it out sooner if they find a lot of their customers leaving for T-mobile after April 12. Amazing what a little competition can do.

And to think AT&T almost bought T-mobile. *shudder*
 
Ok... so does this mean that when AT&T does do VoLte that we'll actually have low pings and unthrottled data still? I'd still like to pull 50down and 25 up during calls.

With HSPA, they throttle the speeds to about 1mbps during a call with pings ranging between 500-600.

Don't believe me, test it out!
 
They should worry about fixing dropped calls and improving/expanding their coverage area before bringing this feature.

As with any other service, I expect some flaws or problems with this
 
Hopefully Verizon comes out with HD voice support soon as well.

I'd like to hear some plan for Verizon to transition to VoLTE. If they do that, then the whole HD vs non-HD seems to me like it would be a lot easier for them to accomplish. Not to mention that it opens the door to simultaneous voice and data (at least when LTE is in use).
 
I wonder how one it took them clowns top make up HD calling. You know it's a gimmick to get suckers to pay out the ***. I bet it even eats up your CAP. You know, the other gimmick to make more money off of us.
Oy vey!
 
kudos to you for throwing around the FUD acronym here - seems it's the thing now on MacRumors. congratulations. and how am i spreading FUD? go look what a 4 bay Pegasus Thunderbolt device will cost you. $1,099. that's what i am talking about. not some petty single bay enclosure. what capacity is your $100 mSATA SSD drive anyways? 128GB drives are toys in the world i live in. even a 256GB...heck...even a 512GB external drive is a toy to me. i don't care how fast the read/write speed is...what good is it if it's a capacity standard from 2006

i have a Windows Home Server with (5) x 2TB drives. to use the Thunderbolt port in a similar setup would cost me $2,299. a Thunderbolt hub costs $399 - RE Belkin device. i'm not talking about an adapter - i'm talking about a hub. after all...the beauty of Thunderbolt is the ability to have many many devices without a slow down right? oh wait, i just checked. ok so there is a Lacie hub for $199. ohhhhh what a deal

i laugh when i see these regular SeaGate and Lacie external drive + enclosure thunderbolt products in 3TB sizes for $349. i try to see the logic of using regular 7200rpm hard drives via a Thunderbolt port...but there is none. the bottleneck has never been USB 3.0 - it has always been the read/write speeds of the drive itself.

Thunderbolt has not realistically caught on after nearly 2 years of being out. i see a limited number of products at absurd price points. Thunderbolt cannot be compared to the CD when it first came out, or the USB port when that came out. they gained instant popularity. Thunderbolt is struggling

You are correct. There is no logic in using a thunderbolt HDD. The thing is, Seagate adapters all use mSATA, which allows you to combine it with an SSD, so yes, you are spreading FUD due to your lack of knowledge. I can't say I blame you though because nobody reports on this.
 
Let me guess:

Available to all iPhone 5 customers!*





*with a tiered data plan

Nope. The joke is that you'll only get it with the iPhone 5S

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I hope they don't come up something like HD Voice is supported only on shared plans.. because its AT&T and its possible they can screw us something stupid like this.

Don't worry they are going to copy Verizon in that stunt. Starting with the iPhone 5S launch if you get a subsidy on your iPhone (any model) you forfeit your grandfathered unlimited data.
 
Just because they announced it today doesn't mean they haven't been working on it for the past several months. Who cares. The fact that it's coming at all is great.
Yes, it is great. (Unless they screw unlimited users, again!) And maybe they have been working on it. But the timing is suspicious. They could've announced it earlier in the year. But, to me, it's just their way of getting mentioned in the news right after T-mobile's press conference, where AT&T was bashed.
 
again with the FUD acronym - you really love slinging that around don't you?

i am well aware that the Seagate allows the hook up for a SSD. but again, let's return back to logic for a second. explain to me what is the point in throwing on a 128GB SSD to that Seagate 3TB HDD. say i want to go grab a blu-ray rip of a movie. it's stored on the 3TB and has to be pulled off of the 3TB drive. there is no benefit there - money has been wasted.

writing to the 3TB drive could be beneficial, ONLY...and ONLY if it writes to the SSD first and then automatically writes to the 3TB drive
 
They will magically roll it out sooner if they find a lot of their customers leaving for T-mobile after April 12. Amazing what a little competition can do.

what a joke. Why would they leave? AT&T actually has coverage versus TMobile.

Only reason why VZW and AT&T are waiting this long is because they want a seamless transition between VoLTE and their current voice networks (EDGE/HSPA/1x)
 
what a joke. Why would they leave? AT&T actually has coverage versus TMobile.

coverage to one person means something else to another based on where they live

i believe 94% of Americans are within T-Mobile's coverage area

but i agree, AT&T's coverage is better than T-Mobile's due to several factors, some of which are:

1) number of towers - AT&T has more of them
2) tower placement - towers constructed and owned by AT&T were placed at the best locations for coverage way before t-mobile leaving t-mobile forced to select inferior sites (independent tower operators just rent the tower to all of them though)
 
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Rogers has this I'm Canada, it is a noticeable difference. It's much better, but it's not a feature I really care about. I wouldn't have bought a phone because it supported Hd voice. It also sounds a little weird because I'm so used to the way it used to be.
 
So, with HD-Voice, would only the receiver (AT&T customer) would benefit from it, or the person on the other side would hear better as well (let's say the other person doesn't have HD-VOICE)?
 
Available to all, except if you have an Unlimited Plan. Also $5.99 for existing users. Sounds about right for the devil, I mean AT&T.

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So, with HD-Voice, would only the receiver (AT&T customer) would benefit from it, or the person on the other side would hear better as well (let's say the other person doesn't have HD-VOICE)?

They both need it to work.
 
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