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So, with HD-Voice, would only the receiver (AT&T customer) would benefit from it, or the person on the other side would hear better as well (let's say the other person doesn't have HD-VOICE)?

No they won't benefit, both users will have to have HD Voice.
 
what a joke. Why would they leave? AT&T actually has coverage versus TMobile.

Only reason why VZW and AT&T are waiting this long is because they want a seamless transition between VoLTE and their current voice networks (EDGE/HSPA/1x)
#1 It was a joke. :rolleyes:

#2 If you live in an area that has T-Mobile coverage and you don't travel 99% of the time, why WOULDN'T you leave?
 
Im on Three in the UK and already have this when calling another Three iPhone. Significant difference in audio quality, I dont think people should undersell this to others, it really is significantly better.

It is a shame in this day and age though that we all own £600 phones and this still isnt standard across all networks to each network.

Progress really is trudging along here.
 
Your move, Verizon.
i'm in my late 20's and it's even catching on with my generation - none of my friends do voice calls anymore. always texting
Same. Every month between the three of us (family plan), we use around 70 mins. 60 of those mins belong to my mom lol.
 
Yes, it is great. (Unless they screw unlimited users, again!) And maybe they have been working on it. But the timing is suspicious. They could've announced it earlier in the year. But, to me, it's just their way of getting mentioned in the news right after T-mobile's press conference, where AT&T was bashed.

Unlimited users have yet to be screwed by AT&T. You can still upgrade, and no features you originally signed up for have been taken away. They have given you a clear choice for taking advantage of their network

If it's not fair for AT&T to change your plan and rates when you're on a legacy contract, then it's not fair for you to expect freebie features and technologies on a legacy contract
 
#2 If you live in an area that has T-Mobile coverage and you don't travel 99% of the time, why WOULDN'T you leave?

For many people a family plan is actually cheaper on att. Also, for those who have corporate discounts, att , again, is cheaper.

Our plan, while we technically only have 750 with rollover minutes on att versus unlimited on tmobile, att is cheaper, and this may as well be unlimited as we have something like 2k minutes saved up at the end of each year.

At a glance, tmo looks great. But when I actually say down and did the numbers, it wasn't so. We do travel, so tmo wouldn't be good for us in that sense, but I was considering putting my mothers line on tmobile for her to save a money since that's why she joined our plan in the first place.

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Unlimited users have yet to be screwed by AT&T. You can still upgrade, and no features you originally signed up for have been taken away. They have given you a clear choice for taking advantage of their network

If it's not fair for AT&T to change your plan and rates when you're on a legacy contract, then it's not fair for you to expect freebie features and technologies on a legacy contract

Well, att certainly turned their unlimited plan into a 5gb plan for all intents and purposes. I know the argument is that "throttled data is still unlimited data", but lets be real. A throttle is a limit, by definition. I do think, though, that as
People start to accept this 5gb throttle they will just leave it for the old customers. People are already starting to feel like that have a good deal simply because everyone else has it worse.

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So basically HD-Voice would work only with AT&T to AT&T (Or T-Mobile)?

Or another carrier (think overseas) that supports it.
 
Bring it on. before you know it all the major carriers will have it. And i'm talking 2-3 months .....Watch
 
This is such a joke, since the amount of minutes people use actually making calls has been dropping every year for the last 5 years. If AT&T really wanted to make an earth shattering annoucement, it should have been unlimited LTE data for $20 a month.
 
Screw AT&T. I only stuck with them this time around because 1) Sprint doesn't have a great 4G/LTE network yet, 2) T-Mobile didn't have the iPhone 5 when it was time for me to upgrade, and 3) Verizon doesn't have unlimited data, is pretty much on par with AT&T regarding service, and the customer service person at the Verizon store was rude to me when I came in and simply looked at the iPhone 5 and asked about unlimited data.

October 23, 2014, bye bye AT&T!
 
How does this audio bandwidth (for "HD") compare to a conventional land line? Also, I think Skype calls typically sound very full and rich. Is that higher bandwidth than a conventional land line? Yes...I know I could google this...
 
again with the FUD acronym - you really love slinging that around don't you?

i am well aware that the Seagate allows the hook up for a SSD. but again, let's return back to logic for a second. explain to me what is the point in throwing on a 128GB SSD to that Seagate 3TB HDD. say i want to go grab a blu-ray rip of a movie. it's stored on the 3TB and has to be pulled off of the 3TB drive. there is no benefit there - money has been wasted.

writing to the 3TB drive could be beneficial, ONLY...and ONLY if it writes to the SSD first and then automatically writes to the 3TB drive

There was no logic in anything you just said sir. Lets put down the HDD for a sec. The seagate thunderbolt adapter uses mSATA to connect to seagate's drives. No HDD needed. All you need is an internal mSATA drive, the thunderbolt adapter, and a thunderbolt cable and you have an instant external thunderbolt SSD, for a lot less than anything else on the market. I'm not sure why you keep mentioning a 3TB HDD, but please stop. It isn't relevant to the discussion.

I just wanted to point out that I am desperately trying to not get impatient with you. I'll even stop using FUD if it helps you wrap your head around the rest of what I'm saying, but so far you have not made any logical arguments.
 
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Why all the hate on the tiered data plans? Unlimited doesn't mean anything on AT&T anyways.
 
I'm LMAO. The surprised winner might be Tmobile. They have had AWS1700 all along that was not compatible with anyone. Now Apple is giving them a new phone that does just that. If TMo does not screw up, their LTE will blow the competitions away.
I am selling my iPhone 5 to get the TMO version.
AWS1700 LTE is theoreticallyy capable of 150Mbps; and for now 42Mbps, way faster than those of ATT or VZW.
 
So basically HD-Voice would work only with AT&T to AT&T (Or T-Mobile)?

This is AT&T we're talking about. The restrictions will probably go something like...

  • Both caller must be on iPhone 5's,
  • and AT&T customers,
  • With 4G data plans,
  • Under contract with at least 12 billing cycles remaining.
 
lol apparently i have had it on my iPhone 5 on T-Mobile in Germany since launch and didnt even know til now :D:eek:

however i dont even remember the last time i actually used my iPhone to make a call. I always text
 
I don't mean to sound cynical, but calls on AT&T already sounded amazing on my old iPhone four years ago, but have steadily degraded over the years.

It's probably network congestion, but I can't help but feel I had great voice quality before, lost it because AT&T didn't invest in their infrastructure and now I'm being sold it again (no doubt at an additional cost).
 
1. Does it work if you call from one supporting carrier to another or is it another walled garden?

2. Does it reduce the delay when a person speaks and the sound carries through? That is often the thing that leads to confusion and poor communication.
 
LTE/legacy radio switching on iPhone 5

Does this mean iPhone 5 won't switch from LTE to 4G (legacy) radio when accepting calls? Will this allow simultaneous voice + data for verizon who are also planning to integrate VoLTE? Just wondering.
 
however i dont even remember the last time i actually used my iPhone to make a call. I always text

It's incredible how much things have changed. Having lived in NYC from 2001-2008, most people texted on the trains or such as the streets are too noisy for phone calls and the texts would send once on the streets. Almost everyone had the Motorola RAZR back when that was the "it" phone with T9 text. Now everyone texts. I recently decided to make a break from texting and social networking and phoning friends; it's actually liberating and has strengthened friendships further. Texting is great, but when college grads text during interviews or people sitting across from one another in restaurants (don't get me started on short hand text creeping into student writing), it's becoming a crutch :eek:

Not to direct this at you of course, just throwing it out there for conversation sake :)
 
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