ATI All in Wonder - Mac DVR

[vniow]

Originally posted by nixd2001


So back to a real question. Can the AIW take S-Video input and handle this?

Yes.
Here's a pic of the 8500DV, It's got everything that the other AIW cards have including two firewire ports.
(Note, people have has some trouble with these ports, don't buy this card for the firewire, the 7500AIW is reported to be more reliable)
As you can see, this card (along with the rest of the AIW line) has a DVI-port, so hooking up an ADC display isn't that difficult.
Too bad they're too big for the cube.🙁

My prediction: ATI is first going to target these cards at Powermac users that want a cheap and effective way to capture video. If it sells well, then they could sort-of reverse engineer the 8500DV (not the entire card, the Video-in-Video-out part) since it already has firewire, it could be made into an external box for iMac, eMac, and laptop owners. 🙂

 

[nixd2001]

Originally posted by edvniow


Yes.
Here's a pic of the 8500DV, It's got everything that the other AIW cards have including two firewire ports...

Cool. I'm going to have to think seriously about one of these now. Just when I thought there was no immediate need to spend any more money! (If only!) From your experience, how good is it at not dropping frames (for whichever is best of encoded or raw capturing)?

 

[vniow]

Originally posted by nixd2001


Cool. I'm going to have to think seriously about one of these now. Just when I thought there was no immediate need to spend any more money! (If only!) From your experience, how good is it at not dropping frames (for whichever is best of encoded or raw capturing)?

Dropped frames are a problem on my incredibly slow 667Mhz PIII, but I've got a 7200rpm HDD so if I'm not multitasking, I can get no dropped frames at all at 'Good' quality (720x480@ 6MB/s) If I'm lucky, I can get no dropped frames at 'DVD-quality' (720x480@8MB/s) You have the option of recording at a number of different qualities and resolutions. I think the highest you can get is 720x480@15MB/s (It's a big HDD space hog 😱 )
If you've got at least one G4, you should be all set. Two would be great, since OSX already has multi-cpu support.
BTW, the capture program (also the TV viewer/control center) has a little monitor on it that tells you what % of frames dropped. Nifty. 🙂

 

[RogueLdr]

About the basis for the All-in-Wonder

Does anyone know what the card is based on for its standard video (VGA/DVI)? Is it 7xxx, 8xxx, or 9xxx based? That and any other stats would be helpful.

(I know I could delve about a bit, but hopefully someone else has already done this, and could forward it along, I have a big CS project due tomorrow 😡 )

RL

 

[vniow]

Re: About the basis for the All-in-Wonder

Originally posted by RogueLdr
Does anyone know what the card is based on for its standard video (VGA/DVI)? Is it 7xxx, 8xxx, or 9xxx based? That and any other stats would be helpful.

(I know I could delve about a bit, but hopefully someone else has already done this, and could forward it along, I have a big CS project due tomorrow 😡 )

RL

The PC versions are based off of the Radeon (mine) and the 7500 and the 8500. ATI said there's not going to be an AIW vrsion of the 9700 cuz there' no room for a tuner on it. 9000 maybe, but not the 9700. If you look at the pic on the top of the page, you can see that it clearly supports a DVI output. A DVI-to-VGA dongle is included with the card. It also has Composite and S-Video out.
Hope this helps. 🙂

 

[ironix]

When it comes to video in, though, I'm used to getting jacked. I bought the Formac ProTV Stereo just before OS X came out, and now that I"m addicted to X, I can't use my card! Formac won't make a driver for me. Anyone know how I can deal with that?
A.

Formac mentions in it's Formac ProTV Stereo FAQ "Formac is looking into the feasibility to develop OSX drivers." Due to this I assumed/hoped that they would soon come out with an OS X driver, and so I purchased a Formac ProTV Stereo card on the assumption that they would. Now after communicating with a representative of Formac, I was told "...we unfortunately will not have any new drivers available for OS X ... we don’t see a future market for a product like the ProTV Stereo card under OS-X." Am I the only one who thinks that their FAQ is misleading consumers?

 

[solvs]

Sorry guys, looks like we're all in for a disappointment:

http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/0209/24.ati.php

"NO ALL-IN-WONDER FOR YOU" (in most horrible attempt at a Soup Nazi accent).

USB sux, DV pass-through doesn't always work, Formacs support is dreadful, Sony discontinued their model, Matrox has no OS X drivers, and most of the PCI cards out there are way too expensive. Anyone know a good way to get analog footage into your Mac? Dazzle has a box right? Is it any good?

 

[RogueLdr]

Re: Re: About the basis for the All-in-Wonder

Originally posted by edvniow


The PC versions are based off of the Radeon (mine) and the 7500 and the 8500. ATI said there's not going to be an AIW vrsion of the 9700 cuz there' no room for a tuner on it. 9000 maybe, but not the 9700. If you look at the pic on the top of the page, you can see that it clearly supports a DVI output. A DVI-to-VGA dongle is included with the card. It also has Composite and S-Video out.
Hope this helps. 🙂

Thanks for the info, it is greatly appreciated.

RL

 

[vniow]

Okay, I lied

Turns out there is an AIW 9700 Pro. Still no Mac version.🙁


click

 

[Ibjr]

Re: Okay, I lied

Originally posted by edvniow
Turns out there is an AIW 9700 Pro. Still no Mac version.🙁


click

yes, but at 100 more on the pc side, its a bit much for the card if they have the Mac markup.

 

[ddtlm]

edvniow:

So, what did you expect? Don't tell me that you fell for a rumor. With the relatively slow processors Macs currently have, adding such a fast video card strikes me as a waste, and I can't imagine that enough people could cough up the cash to make it worth Apple's or ATI's time.

Not to mention the cost of porting over ATI's complex all-in-wonder software.

 

[vniow]

Originally posted by ddtlm
edvniow:

So, what did you expect? Don't tell me that you fell for a rumor. With the relatively slow processors Macs currently have, adding such a fast video card strikes me as a waste, and I can't imagine that enough people could cough up the cash to make it worth Apple's or ATI's time.

Not to mention the cost of porting over ATI's complex all-in-wonder software.

Read my other posts.
I never said that it was a definate. I said it would be nice, but I never said it was going to happen.

It still might.
ATI themselves said that there is never going to be a 9700 AIW cuz there's no room on it for the tuner and lo and behold, it shows up.
ATI also said that they are not pursuing a Mac version of the AIW cards.
After that whole 9700 AIW thing, I'm inclined to believe rumors more than ATI themselves, plus Think Secret has been remarkably accurate with the last few rumors.

 

[mattevil]

if only ati could release this card all would be right in the world
perhaps el gato could make a firewire eyetv?